Is there really any fuss?
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Is there really any fuss?
Yes, for the price he is not worth it. Would be a squad player. De Ligt and Yoro hopefully and we are good CB wise this summer.
He was ok. Nothing more.
Thought he did well throughout the tournament however not sure I see him as an elite defender.
It was a big miss for England, as much as people like to bash Maguire, he brings a lot to England including at corners, free kicks, leadership
Yeah I think its one of those tricks of the mind. People see him do one or two good things in an England shirt and assume he plays like that every game. But he doesnt. And even with his England numbers its really low, so its like he wins one good header, or makes one good tackle, or or one good pass and it ticks a box for them that he's good in that area. But there are lots of defenders who do those things 3 or 4 times a game.
His partner at Palace Anderson is more impressive at most things. Guehi does play more short passes and with more accuracy but pretty much everything else the Dane comes out on top
He did fine, nothing amazing and aside from a few errors pretty solid, I thought Konsa was slightlybetter in his game. I think Maguire would have posed a much more attacking threat, but we need to persuade with younger players like Guehi and Konsa.
He looks like a very average player, and he got caught out a few times in the tournament and it cost us goals. I don't get how he kept his place with better CBs in the squad.
Would be a good signing for them I guess, especially with Schar getting on in years. Not sure he offers enough on the ball though, for the very top at least
Would be interesting to see what he goes for relative to the prices spoken about for Branthwaite.
Yeah nah.
The naked disrespect that Palace are showing Everton by bidding for a centre half in the same summer as they definitely don’t want to get rid of Branthwaite is something Everton fans won’t forget in a hurry.
Seems about right
Interested in seeing the fee here in comparison to Branthwaite...
Guehi just turned 24 and is much more established with 4 quality seasons at the highest level and is a starter for country.
All that said, I somehow wouldn't be surprised if he wound up costing 20-30m less
Can't see Palace accepting anything less than £60m - already sold Olise this summer.
Not much of an upgrade, trading Palace for a wee club in the North East.
Bets on when our name is thrown in the mix to jack the price up
I’d personally rather Branthwaite for the same money given that he can cover either side and has a lot of untapped potential. It’s looks like Everton were right to stick to their guns if palace can get this kind of money.
Hope Palace ask for a lot of money for him.
If Branthwaite is worth 70m then Guehi is worth at least 85-90 surely?
Wouldn't have thought so. Guehi is currently the more established player on the international stage, but I think most people would say Branthwaite has greater long term potential. I'd expect them to cost around the same.
I think he can do better than Newcastle. Thought he looked good for England.
I’m surprised Chelsea haven’t showed an interest and then signs him up in a week and offering a nine year contract
Don’t rate him highly. He’s not a 70m player. 40m more like
Interesting.
70m (probably even more) for him is too much.
Why? Branthwaite was far better in the league than Guehi was despite being 2 years younger
Well if he goes to Newcastle, than we can sell Maguire for £30 million to Palace
If you pay more than £30 million for this you've been had
Are Newcastle really in it to make it big time?
Figured out the Saudis at this point are more interested at elevating their own league instead of becoming a second city or whatever, probably content with Newcastle being a stable mid table club.
Figured out the Saudis at this point are more interested at elevating their own league instead of becoming a second city or whatever, probably content with Newcastle being a stable mid table club.
That's actually a really good point that probably deserves it's own thread.
It's really weird how people don't seem to understand that Everton simply do not want to sell Branthwaite unless it is just a stupid fee that you can't say no to, which is well within their rights. If Real were coming after Garnacho, we would be asking for way more money than most would deem him worth too.
He always goes to them on FM24.
Guehi literally just played at LCB for England throughout the Euros, and did so very well, and was selected ahead of Branthwaite (a natural LCB), so I think ‘can cover both sides’ is a bit of a weak argument in this instance.
At the prices quoted I wouldn’t want either of them. Much better value out there.
Not moved at all. Nothing amazing.
I wouldn’t read too much into this at all. He’s far more experienced and Southgate is as safe of a manager as you will ever see. If Branthwaite is what he’s supposed to be he will have taken over the England LCB by the next major tournament. It’s no major yardstick.
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I don’t think he improves them that much. Palace will put on brave faces, lose him for 55 + add ons and be laughing behind the scenes. Freedman will go out and get someone better for half the price.
Only Southgate would pick him over Branthwaite
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