pascell
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Not often then.he’s french. he changes his mind more often than he changes his underpants.
Not often then.he’s french. he changes his mind more often than he changes his underpants.
He's been good off the ball, bang average on it. Today he was good on both.
Not often then.
was a point where he kept the ball from Curtis jones for what seemed like a good 5 seconds, using what I would class as close control and dribblingI think Ugarte was solid today, but people are getting carried away. Like Mainoo, he was a mixed bag. Some moments of real quality, yet also poor at times.
Good:
35/40 passes completed (88%)
5/5 long balls completed
3/4 tackles won
3 fouls drawn
Bad:
0/3 dribbles completed
7/16 ground duels won
Dribbled past - 4 times
That’s not his game. That doesn’t make him average on the ball. He switches the ball well and most importantly he doesn’t waste the ball, he plays it simple and finds players who are capable of progressing it and he’s actually very press resistant.
That’s not average on the ball at all, manager kill to have someone with those qualities let alone coupled with his abilities off the ball.
Probably classified as one of his 6 duels won.was a point where he kept the ball from Curtis jones for what seemed like a good 5 seconds, using what I would class as close control and dribbling
Right but you’re completely missing the point. He doesn’t need to be Kroos or Scholes or Fabregas or Carrick. That’s not what is being asked of him. He’s doing everything asked of him with the ball and nobody expects him to be cutting defenses open. What he’s doing equates to being good on the ball.He doesn't waste the ball because he doesn't make any risky passes or pass through the lines. Occasionally he might spray it out to a full back on a transition.
He's relatively press resistant and tidy, and is in the team for breaking up play.
But he rarely progresses the ball (ball carrying, passing or even a Busquets style drop of the shoulder).
If you're ranking ability on the ball for our current CMs he's fighting it out with Casemiro for last (who has more in his game from a passing pov).
This is when stats become silly. These aren't advanced stats or within the context of the game, they're just primitive counting stats. Ugarte objectively dribbled out of pressure or used smart body feints to avoid it entirely a number of times in the game. Because he chose to pass it off rather than bursting past a player, it doesn't count as a dribble?I think Ugarte was solid today, but people are getting carried away. Like Mainoo, he was a mixed bag. Some moments of real quality, yet also poor at times.
Good:
35/40 passes completed (88%)
5/5 long balls completed
3/4 tackles won
3 fouls drawn
Bad:
0/3 dribbles completed
7/16 ground duels won
Dribbled past - 4 times
I don't have an answer to your question.This is when stats become silly. These aren't advanced stats or within the context of the game, they're just primitive counting stats. Ugarte objectively dribbled out of pressure or used smart body feints to avoid it entirely a number of times in the game. Because he chose to pass it off rather than bursting past a player, it doesn't count as a dribble?
We gotta use our eyes and interpret the game. His big error was getting pulled out of shape on the first goal and hanging De Ligt out to dry. But he did generally fantastic elsewhere.
Right but you’re completely missing the point. He doesn’t need to be Kroos or Scholes or Fabregas or Carrick. That’s not what is being asked of him. He’s doing everything asked of him with the ball and nobody expects him to be cutting defenses open. What he’s doing equates to being good on the ball.
No.@JPRouve changed your mind ?
Not what Amorim requires from the centre mids in his system.But he rarely progresses the ball
That means he was fine then.Heard Scholes complaining about him..
He was being negative about the signing in the summer because "if he was any good PSG wouldn't let him go", I doubt he'd ever actually watched him properly. I've not heard his comments today but I would guess he's now trying to validate his summer prediction that Ugarte is rubbish by continuing to be negative about him.Heard Scholes complaining about him..
Scholes would still be playing Casemiro.Heard Scholes complaining about him..
I heard the opposite. Scholes was raving about him. He was saying our midfield going forward should always be Ugarte plus another.Heard Scholes complaining about him..
The technique of a rushed clearance involves absolutely skying the fecking ball at no risk of interception. That was nothing like a rushed clearance, zero.The technique was that of a rushed clearance for sure.
I think he was trying to make that pass, but skuffed it a bit and got lucky it still ended up bobbling through to where he wanted (rather than the high ball that he was trying to do).I do think he was just trying to clear it. Pretty lucky
Carrick also never got the recognition he deserved, so I chose to see this as a positive signIt’s really starting to bother me the way he’s still flying below the radar of the media and pundits. He’s been absolutely top class for ages now but not getting any recognition for this in any of the analysis. When is he going to get the credit he deserves?!
Probably not until the team are 5th or 6th. Happy not to see any praise for them until then personally…we don’t want Real coming in haIt’s really starting to bother me the way he’s still flying below the radar of the media and pundits. He’s been absolutely top class for ages now but not getting any recognition for this in any of the analysis. When is he going to get the credit he deserves?!
I think Ugarte was solid today, but people are getting carried away. Like Mainoo, he was a mixed bag. Some moments of real quality, yet also poor at times.
Good:
35/40 passes completed (88%)
5/5 long balls completed
3/4 tackles won
3 fouls drawn
Bad:
0/3 dribbles completed
7/16 ground duels won
Dribbled past - 4 times