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2024-25 Performances

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6.2 Season Average Rating
Appearances
19
Goals
0
Assists
1
Yellow cards
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No point analysing the big picture, as it's too early. Purely on today's performance though, that was disappointingly awful.

I suppose it does suggest a tactical issue rather than individual one, when every player we put there looks the same
 
This was always going to be a horrific signing with the set of midfielders and CBs we have.

I do feel once he’s more up to speed with the league and his role he’ll look better but it will be a disaster until he plays alongside an actual DM that’s good on the ball and frees him to chase the ball higher up the pitch.
 
PSG ultimately moved him on as he didn't suit Enrique, but even for that manager I've seen him play so much better than this. So I'm not worried by these early performances.

It's a classic case of a new signing who needs time to bed in and get up to the speed of the PL. Unfortunately for him, he's arrived at the car crash point of a manager's inevitable exit. So the bedding in period isn't going to be easy.

He'll be fine. At least for what he is.
 
Our only signing for the first team that had no connection to ETH or played in the Dutch league under INEOS management, it will be interesting to see how this turns out after the vast majority of dross we have bought over the years.
 
We just got dominated by a midfield of Bentancur, Kulusevski and Maddison. Just good technical players in a positive system.

It shows how nonsensical the focus on such a limited player on the ball was.
 
-Supreme- said:
Our only signing for the first team that had no connection to ETH under INEOS management, it will be interesting to see how this turns out after the vast majority of dross we have bought over the years.
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Let's not act like Zirkzee or Yoro had any "connection" please.
 
I would have hoped he'd be better, but obviously having zero pre season with the team, he looks like he's not up to speed with the league and is not on the same wavelengths as the attackers.
 
So off the pace but again it's very early days. Technically he looks a bit worrying though.
 
I mean, it was obvious to anyone who watched him at PSG. Take a look at his FBref data too - he offers absolutely nothing going forward and is only mid to high percentile in the stuff he's supposed to specialise in.
 
If you want to be dominated side you just can't afford having a midfielder who is technically not good. No matter how good he is in defence phase.
 
Ocelot said:
I mean, it was obvious to anyone who watched him at PSG. Take a look at his FBref data too - he offers absolutely nothing going forward and is only mid to high percentile in the stuff he's supposed to specialise in.
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Not that I think he had a good game, but he is in the absolute top percentile in the stuff he's supposed to specialise in, not "mid to high".

Either way, not good enough.
 
I think with a better manager he would be much better. The players have basically given up on Ten hag who will be gone soon.
 
Ocelot said:
I mean, it was obvious to anyone who watched him at PSG. Take a look at his FBref data too - he offers absolutely nothing going forward and is only mid to high percentile in the stuff he's supposed to specialise in.
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It's a side argument, but that's simply incorrect.
 
Hugh Jass said:
I think with a better manager he would be much better. The players have basically given up on Ten hag who will be gone soon.
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I hope this is right.The players have definitely downed tools for ETH and it's time to move on sooner rather than later.
 
Getting a player who can run around and tackle was not the fix for teams running through the midfield. Getting a manager who can actually set up a balanced midfield that fits the physical profiles of the players he has and wants to control the game was the fix.

The likelihood is that a manger like that will want a different player than Ugarte.
 
Devil81 said:
Not seeing any difference to Amrabat. Other than the ridiculous transfer fee.

I knew it was strange PSG were happy to see the back of him after one season.
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I watched a lot of him at PSG and understood why he was eventually benched. Somehow I hoped he'd reveal himself to be a top player at United but the early signs aren't good
 
Seems like the equivalent of Wan Bissaka in midfield for us at the moment. He wasn't the only one though. We couldn't string more than 4 or 5 passes together before losing possession.

Generally most players we buy turn to shit so I'm not writing him off completely. Under a new manager he may get better?
 
Guapa said:
I hope this is right.The players have definitely downed tools for ETH and it's time to move on sooner rather than later.
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They are not listening to him anymore, not that they did ever, maybe perhaps up until the Carabao cup win. We looked managerless today. None of the players were fired up compared to the Spurs players who were.
 
Leftback99 said:
We just got dominated by a midfield of Bentancur, Kulusevski and Maddison. Just good technical players in a positive system.

It shows how nonsensical the focus on such a limited player on the ball was.
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3 against 2 with a shit Bruno. It was clear we struggle from the first minute
 
If you buy a defensive midfielder and he needs a deep lying playmaker alongside him to make up for the limitations in his game you have just added another tactical problem.
 
Said it in the summer, I have doubts about his athleticism. Neither does he have a big physical presence nor enough pace for runners, and that can be a real struggle for a midfielder of his type in the PL
 
Leftback99 said:
We just got dominated by a midfield of Bentancur, Kulusevski and Maddison. Just good technical players in a positive system.

It shows how nonsensical the focus on such a limited player on the ball was.
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That would be a massive misrepresentation. Spurs had more intensity all over the park and worked together as a unit. Lets not act as if todays result is a result of having "good technical players in a positive system". It is understandable, that some fans think, that adding a player in the Eriksen mould would be more important that Ugarte this summer but this alone isn't making us a great team all of a sudden. And given that we have Mount, Eriksen and Bruno who kind of can provide what this role describes, it certainly isn't a mistake to go for Ugarte as he provides a skillset NO other player in our squad can provide.
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If you want to be dominated side you just can't afford having a midfielder who is technically not good. No matter how good he is in defence phase.
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We got dominated because we got outworked and outfought anywhere on the pitch. Putting that on one midfielder is crazy. If you think, that tonights game would have significantly different had we had Eriksen playing instead of Mainoo or Ugarte, then I think you are very wrong because Eriksen is even less of a factor in such a battle. Granted, he himself may haven't made as many bad passes as Bruno or anybody else on the pitch but that wouldn't have stopped his team mates from being overawed.
 
Early signs are worrying. Looks extremely poor on the ball

I’m fed up
 
Our 2 midfielder are always against 3-4 opposition players.. I wont judge Ugarte till we actually give him and Mainoo some respite and support from other players.. At this moment, you put players like Modric or Kross in their prime and they will struggle. Not saying Ugarte will be world class but the ask is unfair. Mainoo is also really struggling.
 
Bobski said:
If you buy a defensive midfielder and he needs a deep lying playmaker alongside him to make up for the limitations in his game you have just added another tactical problem.
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Mainoo was supposed to be that player, but I'm thinking he might be better suited as an attacking 8 to replace Bruno altogether.
 
Looked dreadful but at this stage I'm willing to give most of these players a pass until they're playing for a real manager with real game plans.
 
Interesting how many said he was poor on the ball before we signed him. Lo and behold he turns up and looks horrible on the ball. Another player who can’t pass 6 yards to a red shirt. It’s early days but Jesus, why are casual football watchers on an internet forum seemingly better scouts than those at United?
 
We managed to turn one of the best DM in the world into a joke. It's all on the nonsensical setup of the team, one of the midfield is left with an impossible task.
 
Won't judge any midfielder who plays in this club while Ten Hag is around. The setup will expose anyone,.
 
Going by the rumours around the time of his signing, even EtH didn't want him! poor guy is finding life at United very hard.

But it's early days and days like today that will hopefully help him get up to speed with the English game.

Clutching at straws.
 
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