Good point about rushing out. Remember the game vs Arsenal when Sanogo played a good ball over the top to Chamberlain. He would have had a golden opportunity if it wasn't for Neuer who rushed out quickly far away from his goal to clear it. Not a save as such but a decision which might have saved Bayern there. Keepers don't do that as often as they should.
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I agree that Neuer can look a bit clumsy on the ball and that VdS looked more comfortable with the ball at his feet. There's really no shame in that though, VdS was excellent, one of the greatest ballplaying goalkeepers of all time. What makes Neuer such an unbelievable sweeper keeper really is his sweeping. I honestly haven't seen anything like that before, he does it so often on such a high level, clearances with his head or feet more often than not to a teammate. I also never fear that he mistimes his actions, that he might foul and is sent off because of it. So often you see a goalkeeper being sent off when he runs out of the box. Neuer does it significantly more often than any other goalkeeper in the world but basically never misjudges it, and even if he does, he finds the right timing to stop, to start defending instead of fouling. Along with that, his distribution is excellent, great passer (for a goalkeeper of course) with both his feet, comfortable under pressure, his throws are clearly the best since Schmeichel. The overall package is truely outstanding for a sweeper keeper, can't think of anyone in my lifetime who was that good in what he does.
Has Neuer been caught out any/many times rushing like he does? Lloris is similar that he's quick off his line and is pretty good at it, I know he's made a few blunders at Spurs but I can't remember if any of them were to do with him getting caught out when playing sweeper.
A few times, yes. That's inevitable, but very rarely. Can't think of any examples in important games. I agree, that Lloris is comparable in style, not sure if he's efficient enough in what he does though, but I've seen few Spurs games in the last 2 years, so can't really comment on his development.
With Lloris, for a better view of his real level, it's better to look at his Lyon days. Back then, he was regarded as a world class keeper, and despite playing like a sweeper quite often, he rarely got caught (great reading of the game and very fast). If anything, he's regressed since he's at Spurs, not helped by a shambolic, shambolic defence.
I think Lloris has done alright in terms of his sweeping, it's other mistakes in his game and also his car crash of a defense which has let him down at times.
He can be a bit of a jack in the box and not the best Ive ever seen with the ball at his feet but hes also the strongest keeper mentally that Ive seen since Schmeichel. I do think that De Gea is the better keeper overall.
he has made some errors or allowed goals specifically due to his aggressive sweeper style. only one or two, but some errors none the less. I can remember what happened sort of, but not the match, though i think i can recall the details eventually.
How can so many people rate this guy as the best goalie in the world, when he constantly has clusterfecks like that one? It is seriously baffling to me.
Nah he's quality, even though he has a somewhat erratic seeming style. Haven't seen him actually get caught out all that often though.
Shut up man, that wasnt a mistake, Neuer doesn't make mistakes.
The header? Oh no that was completely the defences fault. Some people.
Maybe it was about his mistake after the second goal? He was lucky there
He should have saved the first one, it went right through him. He is having a shocker so far.
I remember when he played for Shalke against us a few years back and he was terrible.
I think he looks pretty dodgy in Guardiola's system because he is poor as a sweeper keeper.
I remember when he played for Shalke against us a few years back and he was terrible.
I think he looks pretty dodgy in Guardiola's system because he is poor as a sweeper keeper.
I'd rather have our goalkeeper over him.
Perhaps my sarcasm wasn't obvious enough for the internet, Im in agreement with you, if he played in the Premier League then no one would he heralding him as the worlds best, just the way it is.
Oh thank god for that, because that header was beyond ridiculous. Him along with some other goalies get some sort of free pass with the media, who ignore these sorts of moments.
He was immense in the first leg, think SAF said it was the best keeping performance against us he had ever seen.
But then terrible in the 2nd leg.
So on his day, he's the best, but he makes more errors than the other top keepers. It's just at Bayern he rarely has to do anything to make errors from!
Watching those 2 goals I felt had it been DDG, he would have saved them for sure..
I know lot of people praise his kicking and distribution a lot, but i think his throws are very good.. He has such a powerful throw..
I know lot of people praise his kicking and distribution a lot, but i think his throws are very good.. He has such a powerful throw..
He's an absolute buffoon. Worse than Higuita.
Other than his incredible Schmeichel-like starfish saves I don't see an aspect of goalkeeping in which I rate this man above De Gea. He makes a catalogue of strange decisions.
His kick outs are dodgy as f%ck.
Having a mare so far. Especially with his kicking which is supposed to be a strength of his.
He's been Bayern's most creative player, a slightly better finish from Bale and Ronaldo and he could already have 2 assists.
Best keeper in the world? Might be but its not as clear cut as made out at all. I'd much rather have the younger and fast improving DDG.
Erratic is putting it mildly when describing his performance so far tonight 
Lindegaard I presume.
I think if he had a defence it would be a lot easier for him, the insanely high line Bayern operate doesn't help his decision making. Pretty much all the time he has to be prepared to run 30 yards.
He was doing it while he was at Schalke too, for some reason he thinks he is the smartest player on field so he prefers that style. He should have been defender instead so he can hang out with the ball more. He conceeded few goals from halfway line in his career already.
Remember him doing something similar vs Inter and then Stankovic absolutely hammered it in from the half line.
He had lost his head by the end of that half. Needs to calm down during the break.
Brilliant shot stopper but a bit wild when it comes to everything else.
Latter-years Schmeichel.
I think people are putting too much emphasis on his mistakes when he comes out like that. He has to play as a sweeper in that formation which is always risky business, as a pure goalkeeper he is the best for me. Ddg will become better though.
he's a fantastic goalkeeper, but overrated. handanovic is better as a goalkeeper, and the other talents are much much closer to neuer then would be believed.
He's a twat. Happy to see him concede a bucket load today. Very good keeper but he's as over rated as DDG is under rated by rival fans.
Personally I think Courtois, De Gea and Cech are all better all round keepers than he is. And both Courtois and De Gea are only going to get better and better I'd imagine.
Personally I think Courtois, De Gea and Cech are all better all round keepers than he is. And both Courtois and De Gea are only going to get better and better I'd imagine.
He always plays like that which makes him such a great keeper tbh, especially if you play with a high defensive line he is basically playing a sweeper.
The problem is it's risky and if it goes wrong he will look like an idiot and it has the potential to overshadow the qualities his play brings to his team.
The problem is it's risky and if it goes wrong he will look like an idiot and it has the potential to overshadow the qualities his play brings to his team.
He's still a world class goalkeeper, not the best in the world, but a great one none the less.
Lets wait until he has an excellent game, then bump this thread again..
Lets wait until he has an excellent game, then bump this thread again..
Interesting that some are now agreeing with me that he's not all that with the kicking distribution