"It's just a little airborne, it's still good..."
http://www.skysports.com/football/n...decided-next-move-says-bayern-munich-chairman
Let's not do this, it's patently too late.
Let's not do this, it's patently too late.
It's over, the sun has forever set.
Imagine if he does go to City and ends up being rubbish, how funny it will be reading all the comments saying how United were lucky to miss out.
So Pep done well in a team with Messi, iniesta, Xavi etc etc plus he hasn't pulled up trees with Bayern in Europe. I'm not saying he's not a good manager but the hype is in overdrive. Jose is easily his equal in management if not better.
But what kind of playing style do you like to watch? Or is it just about #s at the end of the day?
Ruminnigge is saying he knows where Pep is going. MEN are asking within the last hour or so, could that destination be United? Beckenbauer said hinted a week ago it was United. The deal is done, I am pretty sure, but maybe there is some small print details. Therefore a lot of people know it in the inner circles of the clubs. Hmm....
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No he didn't.
Even if a deal is agreed already with anyone, Beckenbauer certainly doesn't know shit about it.
He just said United might be the most popular club in the world and could tempt Pep. That's all. A pretty obvious and general statement.
Well, ok fair enough, I overstated that. He didnt say it explicity; he hinted strongly, naming Guardiola and United in the process.
Plus for all we know it could have been in reply to a question along the lines of "Would a club like Manchester United tempt Guardiola?".
Honestly, he doesn't know shit about anything these days. He leaked so much stuff to BILD he was basically thrown out of all procedures years ago.
Not getting Pep would also mean we can boo the next manager.
Ruminnigge says "he thinks he knows where he is going", which is a world away from "he knows where he is going". Pep has probably already made up his mind but I doubt a contract is signed.
That's weird, there were people on here yesterday swearing blind he'd signed a contract with City in the summer. It's almost like they aren't as ITK as they are making out...
Yeah I heard they emailed a copy to all Man Utd & City fans, didn't you get one?
It's either:
City
Chelsea
United
In order of likelihood, in my opinion.
Would be a poor decision if we didn't go all out to try and get him.
City
Chelsea
United
In order of likelihood, in my opinion.
Would be a poor decision if we didn't go all out to try and get him.
Not sure there's any reason to put Chelsea ahead of us there... all the noise has focussed on the Manchester clubs so far.
My feeling is still that offered equal money / assurances about the role etc, United would be his first pick. I think he's the sort who values a club's historical importance... imagine having Barca, Bayern and United as the only 3 clubs you'd ever managed. Once he'd won the League and Champions League with us, all he'd have left to do would be to go and do the same at Milan or Juve, then drop the mic and retire.
OK, I may be getting a little carried away now, but my original point still stands. Sadly I also suspect City will make more effort to get him and that's where he'll go.
If you want something why wait until it's gone or difficult to get before you make your approach ? 
If you want something why wait until it's gone or difficult to get before you make your approach ?
Because the vast majority of the people who have a say in this want LvG to run down his contract, or last until the summer, and then give the job to Giggs with the rest of the class of '92 in various roles within the club and possibly Fergie as some kind of supervisor.
I believe there is no real intention from the board to approach Guardiola or Mourinho as there is no real intention to sack Louis. The relationship between the manager and his players may have reached a critical point but from what i understand there were some discussions in order to calm things down and now everyone is crossing fingers and hoping that the team will finish in the top four.
We had the same story back in 2013 in my opinion. Supposedly we were in talks with Mourinho and Ancelotti but they turned us down so we decided to appoint Moyes. From Mou and Carlo... to David Moyes. The way i see it, they had decided to give the job to Moyes from day one then and they have decided to give the job to Giggs now. I mean... even LvG himself has admitted it.
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The groundwork for Pep should've been done a long, long time before this juncture.
I'd say even if LVG was in a much better position, he should be chased out the door if Pep were available. There simply aren't managers of that calibre available very often. You have to make exceptions. United are one of the few clubs Pep would contemplate going to. You have to exploit that. Throw all the money you've got at him and get the boring, arrogant fraud out of here.
I'd say even if LVG was in a much better position, he should be chased out the door if Pep were available. There simply aren't managers of that calibre available very often. You have to make exceptions. United are one of the few clubs Pep would contemplate going to. You have to exploit that. Throw all the money you've got at him and get the boring, arrogant fraud out of here.
Well then that's both of them lost out on then.
This was depressing to read, you speak with a lot of certainty though.
Yes this!
It's not certainty, it's just that there are too many plot holes in this story. I want to believe that United is a club run by top professionals and therefore i can not believe, not even for a second, that we are making a last minute try to grab Pep out of City's hands. There are certain procedures, first you contact his agent and declare your interest and if you get the green light, you start talking about how the manager sees himself within the club etc. And if both parties are satisfied from what they're hearing, then you start talking about money.
But the most important thing is that all these talks take place behind the curtains, not with tweets coming from any reporter you can think of. And usually these deals create a buzz after they are announced, before that there's just a sense of inevitability in the air. In the summer of 2013 Mourinho's name was being linked with United all the time from news sites from all around the world but there was a sense that Moyes would get the gig and when he did, the news came as no surprise. The Mourinho discussions here on the Caf were mostly us not wanting to accept what was coming. Something similar happened in 2014 when it was leaked from the club that Giggs would not continue as first manager. There was a feeling that LvG would take the job.
I see the same kind of inevitability with Pep and City now. City say nothing, neither does Pep but you can feel that it's a done deal simply because the silence from both parties, now that we all now that Guardiola will be free by the end of the season, indicates that all the groundwork has been already laid. And whether we like it or not (i personally don't) we secured the services of a 62 yo and one step from retirement LvG 18 months ago just so that Giggs would have time to gain experience in order to become our manager. You won't read it in the news, journos won't tweet about it, pundits won't discuss it that much but there's a sense all around Manchester that it's going to happen.
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Let City have him.
He's due a managerial failure on his CV anyway
He's due a managerial failure on his CV anyway
Pep to United: it's on!
http://www.sundayworld.com/sport/soccer/pep-guardiola-would-consider-man-utd-move
http://www.sundayworld.com/sport/soccer/pep-guardiola-would-consider-man-utd-move
People say his mates are at City, but Manchester is Manchester and friends are still friends. United is a bigger job and that might appeal to him. I'm not talking about history etc, I mean in terms of what needs to be done. He might find it more exciting to bring players in rather then fix what is broken at City. City just need steering in the right direction, United are more about rebuilding. So I wouldn't buy into anything at the minute. The press will speculate on United though because they don't want it a full gone conclusion that he's gone to City and they also will be upset the Jose talk has quietened. So expect more lies to filter through
"Daily Star" think we can file it under bullshit.
Don't do this to yourself.
It's not like City don't need quite a few players either and the idea they are lightyears ahead with their team is wrong imo.People say his mates are at City, but Manchester is Manchester and friends are still friends. United is a bigger job and that might appeal to him. I'm not talking about history etc, I mean in terms of what needs to be done. He might find it more exciting to bring players in rather then fix what is broken at City. City just need steering in the right direction, United are more about rebuilding. So I wouldn't buy into anything at the minute. The press will speculate on United though because they don't want it a full gone conclusion that he's gone to City and they also will be upset the Jose talk has quietened. So expect more lies to filter through
Their defence is quite shite tbh, cm not much better and Aguero is injured a lot. Their team is far from ready made and will need investment over the next few years.
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soc...he-will-be-coming-to-premier-league-1.2485694
'There are offers but I haven’t signed for anyone yet. When I have a new club I will let everyone know.'
Is it possible?
'There are offers but I haven’t signed for anyone yet. When I have a new club I will let everyone know.'
Is it possible?
For what it's worth as he's not arriving in the summer and three of the possibilities he could move to he could still face in the Champions League it's good practice to keep it under wraps. Not to mention the fact that all but 1 possibility have a permanent manager under contract.
He's going to City, but I really hate these Lebron-style announcements. "In x days I'll have a press conference where I announce my next destination." Just feck off and get it over with, no need to turn everything into a media circus.
I think it was Bayern who wanted to put an end to the speculation about who will be the coach in 2016/2017 - the date had been set by Rummenigge months ago (after the last match before the break) and that was that. Now (as in the first press conference after the announcement) it's more than understandable that Pep had to give the reason why he didn't extend - he wants to coach in England. With that many options and managers still under contract there - what could he've done differently? Even if he would go to City, it's City that has to break the news, not him.
I think it's possible Pep comes to United, but far far far from a certainty. I hope Woodward isn't setting yet another unrealistic target in Pep, while we continue to overlook a viable candidate in Mourinho. If we wait until the summer, which seems increasingly likely, we'll probably lose out on both and either be stuck with LVG for another year or get a lower tier replacement.
Is he really that good? He's managed the best two teams in the world, not really tough tasks compared to what other managers have faced.
Took over Barca when they were doing badly and instantly converted then into by far the best team in the world, giving them new identity. Gave Bayern new style and improved them as a team as well IMO too.