richard askam @richaskam
Informed source with good connections at Bayern told me if Guardiola leaves his 1st choice would be Manchester United #mcfc #mufc
Family club innit. Giggs loves to keep it in the family.
He doesn't say anything new, tbf. Beckenbauer himself said recently that Pep would prefer United. Who has better connections at Bayern than Beckenbauer, apart from, say, Rummenigge? This does not mean that it is true though. Sometimes logic helps better than relying on "connections".
Failure is a big teacher. Given how we have done in the past 3yrs and the obvious link between money and success, even our "businessmen" decision makers will know that we can't keep fecking up. If Guardiola is available, I am certain we will approach him. He might still pick City but I can't see us not trying.
'Easiest' wasn't me quoting you. Just making the point that City being better set now doesn't mean a top manager would necessarily pick them.
If you had 100 bucks to bet with, would you put it on Leicester winning the league or Guardiola becoming the Utd boss? Odds being the same ofcourse.
The usual band of bullshitters will come out of the woodwork and repeat the Hunter story now.
Oh, Leicester winning the league. The fun of cheering on underdogs watching real football compared to reading this thread waiting for a confirmatory tweet would be far greater fun.
Wouldn't he prefer to join and sign those players himself rather than hoping someone else signs players he'll also want?...
I don't think we're far away from having a very good team.
Also anyone thinking the Arab and Chinese owners of world franchise club Man City are not going to offer Guardiola the moon and the stars to take over from a pleasant elderly chap already on his way out isn't thinking straight.
Chelsea will most likely stab an offer too but the only thing that matter is what pep wants.
I don't know if this got lot is the mix somewhere be we actually have more financial power than city lol.
Okay.
They will. They'd be daft not to. Same goes for any club really. When a manager like Guardiola becomes available, you seek him out unless you are really well set with the current manager.
He seeks quick success because he doesn't stay at a club longer than 3 years. Therefore, he would rather already have at his disposal a core of world class players as he did at Barca nad Bayern. We don't have such a core. We are not far from being a very good team but we are far from competing with Bayern and Barca, i.e. from being a truly great team - not because we lack the manager but because we lack the players.
So people at Bayern know where Pep is going to manage next ? Yeah right !
I can tell you who will know, if anybody knows, that is Pep's greatest friend in football Txiki Begiristain. Does that mean he is coming to City ? Well, no it doesn't but for what it's worth I think there has been a plan in place for a long time that he will join his friends at City.
I honestly do not see Pep at United whilst his buddies are running City.
Beckenbauer really knows feck all. No one tells him anything anymore and it's much better that way.
We don't know how close Pep and Begiristain are. But if they are very close, then you are right. Because Pep leading United to success would mean troubles for Begiristain and that would be a delicate situation between friends.
They are first and foremost professionals. It wouldn't be the first time close friends, "if they are" are at competing clubs.
Plot twist, Pep ends at Chelsea who waits end of a season and then fires Jose, while Carlo takes over at Bayern while we either persist with LVG or give Giggs a chance.
It is well documented that they are very close and speak to each other regularly.
It was Txiki that gave Pep the job of coaching first Barca's 2nd team and then gave him the job of coaching the 1st team whilst turning down Mourinho. (just love that bit)
There is absolutely no way Pep will stab his friend in the back by joining United.
Wasn't his City buddies at City when he decided to join Bayern in the first place? Why are they suddenly joined at the hip now?
If they were so close why did they leave Barca and Pep in the first place? I always thought this was a lazy connection to make. Ridiculous to imagine that Pep, who hasn't stayed at a club thus far for more than what? 4 years?.. Set out his buddies to lay the tracks at fecking City so they would be ready for him at some time in the future.
I say he'll be a managerial nomad until he settles back as president at Barca in the future. Why would he suddenly approach the potential 3 years at City ( potentially a fifth of his of his years as manager) as this elaborate setup?
It seems money isn't necessarily his primary motivation though. Clearly Pep sees us as one of the great and historically elite clubs - what better challenge for him than to lead us back to the top over the nouveau riche? The man is a traditionalist and a romantic and I think sometimes some of our fans underestimate the allure that United have. A couple of seasons of post SAF turmoil and underperformance haven't suddenly relegated us to also rans despite what some might say.
Barca is a poltical couldron as everyone knows and instability is always a good reason to leave anywhere.
Lazy connection ? It is lazy not to understand relationship between the 3 amigos and especially Txiki and Pep runs very very deep.
I believe he will join City. I think he joined Bayern as the time was not right to join City.
However, more strong than my belief he will join City is my belief he will not join United.
We'll see who is correct in time.
Yeah, we could've emailed BILD directly, much more efficient.
Have a slight feeling that this one will end in tears (and not with happy ones). Doesn't seem realistic that we could get such world class manager.
I could be wrong but didn't Barca didn't want the so called amigos to leave them and join Barca. I don't think they fell victim to any political shnnanigans and left on their own accord. That's why I don't think this great professional bond exists where they would never go up against each it's be since they left Pep so early in his Barca reign.
As you say we'll see how it turns out.
Undoubtedly. And of course I agree the allure of Utd is and will be greater than City's for years to come. But a Pep Guariola might do something world historical in football terms with City to chip away at that nouveau riche tag, a tag which in today's world is hardly the slight it used to be. If he takes a sabbatical and a decision has not already been made to replace LVG with Giggs then all other things being equal we would be clear favorites to sign him. I've just got a monster hunch that that decision has been made and that the board etc would be very reluctant to go back on it, them themselves perhaps being traditionalist and romantic.
4-3-3 is not a plan, it's a line up. And he didn't stumble upon it, it's his signature line up since 1989, even years before he taught the world how it could be played while almost everybody played 4-4-2. 4-2-3-1 is just 4-3-3 with the midfield pointing forward and the centre forward playing deep. In both forward line there's always one player off set of course, it would be ridiculous to have them play in a straight line. If you call that a plan I don't think you're the one to judge plans and their execution.
While I would love if we get Pep, it is really see it happening. It is not only CIty's connections, but I can't see Pep starting negotiations with us while we have LVG in charge. LVG was the person who made Pep captain of Barca, after all.
And if we wait until summer, then most likely he won't be available.
Unless of course, he goes for a sabbatical. Which again, I don't see him doing so cause the Bayern job hasn't been near as much stressful or meshed with politics as it was Barca's job.
And if we wait until summer, then most likely he won't be available.
Unless of course, he goes for a sabbatical. Which again, I don't see him doing so cause the Bayern job hasn't been near as much stressful or meshed with politics as it was Barca's job.
It's a plan when you organize your first transfer window around a 3-5-2, it's a plan when you plan to play without wingers and then mainly play with wingers and end up short of fullback and wingers options.
But it's my fault I should have been more explicit.
Yeah, we're too small a club. If we were as big as City then me might have a chance of getting him. Alas.
What's this theory about City buying a player from Girona then loaning him back there, which is a roundabout way of funneling cash to Guardiola or members of his family? Is this not pure bullshit?
There might be some truth in it because the player Coty bought was very random. A bit like our signing of Bebe. The club was in debt and has very close connections to Pere Guardiola. Similar to the relationship between Jorge Mendez and Valencia. The money city paid for the player covered the clubs debt.
So it's easy to see why people have made the connections.
Bookmarking this for potential blue meltdown scenario.
This thread is like a bunch of teenage girls debating who Justin Biebers next girlfriend will be.
For Pep's two managerial jobs he's inherited already-brilliant teams. Not wanting to downplay his achievements but managing either ourselves or City would be a significantly harder challenge than he's faced before. I don't think he's anywhere near a guarantee of success. His name does have significant pulling power though.
feck off, who do you think you are, I'm not a teenager. I'm twelve.
Why we could flood him with money.
Shit anology.
That will need to be looked properly into if he does end up at City...even regardless. Surely the Bebe thing was corruption on our part, not merely stupidity...