Hopefully, Pep takes a sabbatical next season. Because he wouldn't come to us this summer, the squad isn't good enough. If he agrees to come here after next season, we will have enough time to sign several top players, especially in attack. If he doesn't take a sabbatical, he's bound to manage City. It's that simple.
We probably deserve to become Liverpool if that happens. Even if we are his first choice, he's too in demand to linger in that place for too long.You're right but I don't think it's necessarily due to squad. If he wants to manage us he'd take over this summer if we were up for it. If he signs 3-4 attackers we'd be right up there to win things, and with him in charge with our money, we should pull it off.
The issue is that we seem to be a slow-reacting club in these matters. If he does want to manage us next season I can see us failing to seize on that particular opportunity, dwindling on things and just letting everything unfold with LVG.
Spot on. We need to let go of this dream of a long-term manager. And if it happens that we have a successful manager who stays for 15-20 years it won't be by design. It will happen because a 3-4 year contact manager is successful and will be asked to stay.
Get the best manager you can when the need arises and deal with the long-term as you go along. No more idiotic 7 year contracts.
When you look at a spine of De Gea, Smalling, Shaw, Schneiderlin, Herrera, Mata, Martial and Blind that's not half bad a squad to be starting with. They are all in the right age to enter a productive period as well. What we do need is a manager willing to construct a team to try their strengths and give them freedom to express themselves and Gaurdiola would relish that challenge.
If he is willing to come next season all I hope is that we qualify for champions league and send Van Gaal off to retirement a year early with a gold rolex.
I have no faith in the people running this club.. We left it to late and the best manager in the world is going to our rivals. The sad part is I feel sure that if we had tried he would have come here instead of City.. This is going to hurt us big time and LVG was never staying here past his three years.. It's not fair on Giggs to give him the job when City have Pep, Pool Klopp and we Giggs. And Ancelotti going to Bayern leaves us little choice. This goes somewhere close to picking Moyes as our manager feck up.
On the other hand if we have an agreement with Gaurdiola, announcing it early would make Van Gaal a lame duck manager until end of the season and players will start looking behind their backs and deliver half ass games for the manager.
Didn't that work out really well for Bayern?
I'd be surprised if Pep had already made his decision. I don't think he decide without being certain of the team (s) in question having CL football next season of which noone is completely certain right now.
I think Jupp Heynkes announced that he was going to retire no matter what at the end of the season. We'd be terminating Van Gaal contract a year early which is kind of like being pushed out of the door and it most likely won't sit well with his ego to begin with.
Fair enough. I personally don't think anything is done. We're laborious at best behind the scenes in these matters so I can't see us actually being ahead of the game, nor can I see so much speculation about City if the deal to us was done. Him preferring United, yeah I can see that being the case. Would be the perfect club to manage given his previous clubs were Barcelona and Bayern.
We also managed to keep a lid on the Moyes hiring for about half a season. So one can only speculate.
Folk need to listen to this. Pep wants to come, simple as, then on to Brazil. The man loves us.
No we didn't.
I'm sure Fergie went to his house in April and told him then.
He could also take a sabbatical and manage City, surely?
In terms of us building up the squad for him in January and this summer, it's what we need under Van Gaal anyways, namely a RW, a box to box or great passing CM and an LCB. Rest of the squad is there if you squint and guys like Schneiderlin, Darmian and Memphis settle better in year 2 at United.
There is no way we are firing LVG when he is well within top 4. We only announced the Moyes sacking after it became mathematically impossible for him to secure top 4.
Hence, in all probability Guardiola is going to Citeh and Ancellotti is going to Bayern. We get to choose between LVG and Giggs.
Hence, in all probability Guardiola is going to Citeh and Ancellotti is going to Bayern. We get to choose between LVG and Giggs.
Maybe not but he doesnt have the results or trophies to back it up. Pep would be the best choice I think.
And reading through this thread, some people need to realize it is not 1992 anymore
It wouldn't be the weirdest thing. As a short term appointment his job was to quickly steady the ship and get us challenging again. If we finish 4th I don't think it would be the harshest thing in the world to say "thank you and goodbye."
Our attack is miles behind City's, let alone Bayern's or Barca's. We have to sign at least 3 top attacking players, apart from a great CM and a LCB. Just ask yourself how many United players would start for Bayern. Probably between 0 and 2. That's how far we are from competing with the top boys. Of course, some of the younger players could develop into world beaters but I believe only in Martial. Memphis lacks brains and speed, Lingard is quick but not a special talent, IMO. Rooney is finished and Mata isn't exactly a top top player. Neither Herrera is. It would take several transfer windows to add the required quality. City are much closer to what is required and therefore are favourites to land Pep (apart from his friendship with Begiristain).
I'd like to believe Hunter but why on earth would Pep's entourage share his plans with him? Not a chance.
I guess he will announce that this will be his last year at Bayern and he will then take a year out and make his next decision next season.
Maybe
Maybe
Who the feck is this guy?
Edit: Reporter for BBC North West. New question, is he any fecking reliable?
I can totally believe this - given that we can all pay the same sort of silly money, why would being the man who brings glory back to the biggest, most galmorous club in the country not be his first choice.
Will make it pretty galling if we pass the opportunity up.
I'm not convinced he'll be taking another year out, having just done so three years ago.
Although that said, maybe he's just a very sensible guy - if I had his ability / reputation, and his bank balance, I'd totally give myself a year of shilling out in between jobs every few years!
So reports are officially conflicting now.
Daily fail saying he's already pre signed with city, Graham and now this richard guy saying Utd is his preferred choice If/When he leaves. Notice the difference between the two.
One rumour implies he's already made a choice which imo is up in the air. Either way we're going to have to play the waiting game on this one so there is no point already assuming he's at city.
Naïve to think we haven't made some sort of contact or that we're being idle in our approach, fergie loved the guy and he's arguably one of the best around atm.
Daily fail saying he's already pre signed with city, Graham and now this richard guy saying Utd is his preferred choice If/When he leaves. Notice the difference between the two.
One rumour implies he's already made a choice which imo is up in the air. Either way we're going to have to play the waiting game on this one so there is no point already assuming he's at city.
Naïve to think we haven't made some sort of contact or that we're being idle in our approach, fergie loved the guy and he's arguably one of the best around atm.
Kicker are saying the same thing, but they also say we'll choose Giggs instead.
If that's true, I hope there's a plane with a banner saying Woodward out.
Doubt Hunter has good connections at Bayern.
We would be the dumbest and most idiotic club in the history of we let Guardiola join just to give Giggs a job he has no clue of. I'd be so mad.
His ex Barcelona pals now at City will be in his ear about what a project City is and what great players they already have. And the form of Utd's board in the post Fergie era with regard to being proactive/striking while the iron is hot is crap. Genuinely more chance of Leicester winning the Prem than Guardiola starting next season Utd manager.
Ed needs shooting if that is true.
I'd settle for the year out, let LVG finish his 3 years. May not be ideal for last season, but if he had a three year plan to build some structures, it may be worth letting him complete it.
My one caviat would be that there's a whole lot of dialogue between the two in the 18 months before he starts to make sure Pep is onboard with everything LVG is doing in between.
My one caviat would be that there's a whole lot of dialogue between the two in the 18 months before he starts to make sure Pep is onboard with everything LVG is doing in between.
We won't choose giggs over Pep
Woodward is all about the money and giggs being manager is a shareholders nightmare, he's seen what Pep has done at barca and Bayern. Sorry cannot buy it one bit.
Kicker are just running with the status quo on giggs replacing LVG, something that woody briefed was not exactly true.
Woodward is all about the money and giggs being manager is a shareholders nightmare, he's seen what Pep has done at barca and Bayern. Sorry cannot buy it one bit.
Kicker are just running with the status quo on giggs replacing LVG, something that woody briefed was not exactly true.
Much as the general "Giggs will be a shit manager" pisses me off, I'd agree with this. If there were no obvious choices I'd be fine with Giggs, but passing on Pep for him would be madness.
Completely disagree. Does he really need friends to tell him about city or our current situation? Did Klopp picking Liverpool tell us nothing? Not everyone wants the "easiest" job available. Not saying we are favorites but to say Leicester have a greater chance of winning the league than we do of getting Pep is utterly mad.
That would be the worst decision in recent Utd history, surely?
Jesus Christ. It's been a rough few years since fergie left but when did it become so cool to just hate ourselves and assume every decision taken is the worst possible option.
If Pep wants the job no way utd won't consider that, especially since fergie wanted him to take over originally. I've said it before, you don't get to woodwards position by being stupid and stagnant. He's a man that in imo can learn from mistakes. Appointing LVG (who was the best option at the time) and then giving him money to spend is a sign of that imo.
I mean what sources are saying he's going to city ? Are they a shit ton more valid than kicker or graham ? Or is there a lot of assuming going on here.
Insiders passing on positive reviews of any environment is bound to be one of the numerous factors a person considers when they make any decision. Klopp picking Liverpool told us nothing. "Easiest" is not a quote from my post. Sticking with what I said about Leicester's chances in relation to ours with regard to getting Guardiola based entirely on the form of our board as I mentioned.