Manchester United transfer news and rumours for summer 2014

Posted this earlier in the summer when I was more sane/less emotional

Yes- I'd be happy with lower cost short term answers to plug gaps and improve squad whilst LVG gets to grips with the job. Big spend can be next year if needed.

Worst thing we could do is buy average players for huge amounts (Fellaini) or spunk hundreds of millions on superstars before LVG even has a good opportunity to assess and improve what we've got.

Need to get back to that place...
 
Sixpence said:
I'd get De Jong in at this stage to be honest. Doesn't look like there's anyone else out there. At least he'd give us some solidity and aggression that Fletcher just does not have anymore. Also he wouldn't be too fussed about being a sub sometimes. We just need someone competent at holding midfield and protecting the defence while Carrick is out and De Jong would fit the bill okay.
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Agree.
 
Cassidy said:
Lets be real, reality of the situation:

We tried to sign Kroos and failed
We tried to sign Fabregas and failed
We tried to sign Sanchez and failed
We tried to sign Vidal and are failing
We're trying to sign Di Maria and its not looking optimistic

I'm not believing the bullshit that we were not in for those players we failed in.

EDIT: I forget Hummels
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Kroos went to champions eague winner and the best team in the world currently, for the money and for the glory. We should try to snap him but we would loose anyway cuz he would have chosen them..
Fabregas - we tried to get him last year but he wanted to try his best at his beloved club, his possibly last season. It wasn't the right timing. This year Mourinho went for him and he did tell it himself - he wanted to work under him. They signed him at time that we havent got a manager yet.
Sanchez - we were never in for him, there is no reason to think otherwise. If we were he could have come to United. Anyway from the day one van Gaal went to United and got to know his players closely he decided to play with wingbacks so we were not in for wingers this window as we were always gonna play 3-5-2 with wingbacks. He would become another undroppable player upfront. and plus Arsenal have got ambition and are actually in champions league.
Vidal - he is the type of player we need but not sure if van Gaal already stated to Woodward to get him. I think he is gettable we just didnt bid for him yet because van Gaal didnt say so. We have all the money and attraction to get him.
di María - the same problem with sanchez he is not the player we need at first. He would be brilliant here but only if we get another CM and CB in order to play 4-3-3

I dont believe in all the bullshit tabloids come up with everyday altho there has to be some targets we are going for. I believe Van Gaals main targets are Hummels which is obviously unavailible and maybe we went for him and made some kind of gentlemen agreement with him getting after the season. We all know they would let players go for free just to keep them for another last season and hummels is not in his last years of contract, plays champions league football in front of 85 thousand fantastic fans in a club he loves. But I believe if we get to champions league we will have a chance and try to get him next season.
The second target IMO for van Gaals is Strootman that may be the case why he dont want to go for Vidal as he will want to ave strootman as his second B2B, dont see we we couldnt go for both.. even if we get both we would have 3 box to box in them and herrera which doesnt really matter IMO because we could find a system for them as they are all great players and should easily start ahead of other players in our midfield but still maybe van Gaal wants a little bit of balance, that is why I don't get why we are not in for some defensive midfielder. Hopefully we are but the papers haven't just yet discovered it and if we fail we will bring at least de Jong as anchor man.

Anyway I am staying optimistic, van Gaal seems to know what he is doing but the problem might be perhaps that there are very specific players we want and there are few which van Gaal identified and they also doesnt need to be easily gettable. We have seen that if Moyes was after Ronaldo and Bale it was never gonna happen. I am optimistic because I think if we were after Daley Blind or de Jong who I rate a little higher than Blind, we would have already got them, thats a sign that van Gaals know what he is doing and that we want only top tier players. And I dont see why are people so obssesed with woodward. He is the man who already brought Herrera, Shaw, Van Gaal, Mata, Fellaini. He didnt choose them he goes for the people he is said to go for, it is not his fault that he is said to go after Bale for example. if there is a player van gaals wants and told him to get him he will get him. He had done deals before very lucrative sponzorships we signed, it is always negotiating and he seems to make the most of it if he is said do the best to get him for whatever it takes he will do it and then it can only fail when the player doesnt want or the club wont let him go. It can happen and than its not his fault, it is not his fault if we dont sign a player we are not for either. That is all the examples you wrote down.
 
one more thing, stop calling for a winger. I guess we will be after one or two next couple of windows but after the world cup succes of van Gaals he kinda liked the system which he had implemented three months back then and decided to stick to it with United as we dont have good enough players to play 4-3-3 either. We will sign one after we sign quality CM and CB next couple of windows but at this time the winger wouldnt be a soultion. I think the CM is Strootman and Hummels might be the CB but we will be able to sign them realistically in january or next summer respectively. dunno how good cuadrado is or could be as wingback for us but if he can play both he could be the type of signing we should go after as he could play in both 3-5-2 and 4-3-3 in the future. dont see much space for the likes of di Maria or sanchez in our team. We need defensive minded midfielder to partner Herrera at first. so Wanyama/Song/Sandro/Schneiderlin/anyone but I dont see us getting linked to any. Hope something is happening behind closed doors..
 
Bojan11 said:
Don't think he's that great positioning wise. But his link up with RVP was pretty good at Arsenal.

I would take him as Carrick is injured and we getting rid of Fellaini.
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He would be good signing if he was an half player he was at arsenals last season. great battling pressence and always had a pass in him as well..

BTW: What do you think guys about Sandro? He could be also out of playce at spurs. He was great before injury. I would consider 10million cheeky bid to spurs they dont need him if they sign schneiderlin.. the problem is he is quite injury prone..
 
m1y2 said:
He would be good signing if he was an half player he was at arsenals last season. great battling pressence and always had a pass in him as well..

BTW: What do you think guys about Sandro? He could be also out of playce at spurs. He was great before injury. I would consider 10million cheeky bid to spurs they dont need him if they sign schneiderlin.. the problem is he is quite injury prone..
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Yeah, plus if he's bad, we wouldn't make any real loss on him. Rather sign Song on loan than pay £20m for Blind.
 
I honestly don't think we can be fussy anymore. The only thing that applies: "is he better than what we currently have?"
 
Bojan11 said:
Yeah, plus if he's bad, we wouldn't make any real loss on him. Rather sign Song on loan than pay £20m for Blind.
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You make some good point with Song and than ruin it with Blind. How the hell come he is a united level in your eyes. Which one of you seen him for Ajax? At WC he had a one good game against spain and for the rest of the world cup he was completely average. Struggled with speed defensively on the left side and couldn't beat a man run at people when going forward. He is so fecking slow and as a CM he is not better than cleverley. He didn't do anything else that cleverley doesn't. He wouldn't get into side over Fletcher, he is nowhere near united quality. and if he was we would have already signed him. 20mil? no thank you, I wouldn't want him for free. He is a newcastle level player. But mate if it was an irony I am sorry I didn't get it. This Blind bullshit always gets me angry.. surely there has to be some other option and if it is de Jong I will take him over Blind any day. I would have played unfit Anderson rather than watch blind play for our team.
 
Loon said:
I honestly don't think we can be fussy anymore. The only thing that applies: "is he better than what we currently have?"
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No we can't be fussy but we still have to be aiming for the best in the world but we do need to re think things during this transition phase. We should not forget mind you that we struggled to get all our targets when we where winning everything and SAF at the helm so without champions league it is now even harder. If we can't attain our top quality targets then we need to bring in our secondary targets who are not world class but still good players. These added players should help us get us back into champions league and next summer window it will be easier to bring in the the top quality players we are looking for. We then ship off the deadwood, bring in higher quality players and keep our current decent players and we have a very good squad.
 
m1y2 said:
You make some good point with Song and than ruin it with Blind. How the hell come he is a united level in your eyes. Which one of you seen him for Ajax? At WC he had a one good game against spain and for the rest of the world cup he was completely average. Struggled with speed defensively on the left side and couldn't beat a man run at people when going forward. He is so fecking slow and as a CM he is not better than cleverley. He didn't do anything else that cleverley doesn't. He wouldn't get into side over Fletcher, he is nowhere near united quality. and if he was we would have already signed him. 20mil? no thank you, I wouldn't want him for free. He is a newcastle level player. But mate if it was an irony I am sorry I didn't get it. This Blind bullshit always gets me angry.. surely there has to be some other option and if it is de Jong I will take him over Blind any day. I would have played unfit Anderson rather than watch blind play for our team.
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Can you not read?

I said I'd rather sign Song on loan than pay £20m for someone like Blind. Where in that did you pick up that I want us to sign Blind?
 
m1y2 said:
You make some good point with Song and than ruin it with Blind. How the hell come he is a united level in your eyes. Which one of you seen him for Ajax? At WC he had a one good game against spain and for the rest of the world cup he was completely average. Struggled with speed defensively on the left side and couldn't beat a man run at people when going forward. He is so fecking slow and as a CM he is not better than cleverley. He didn't do anything else that cleverley doesn't. He wouldn't get into side over Fletcher, he is nowhere near united quality. and if he was we would have already signed him. 20mil? no thank you, I wouldn't want him for free. He is a newcastle level player. But mate if it was an irony I am sorry I didn't get it. This Blind bullshit always gets me angry.. surely there has to be some other option and if it is de Jong I will take him over Blind any day. I would have played unfit Anderson rather than watch blind play for our team.
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Blind would be good alongside Herrera. He's a lot better than Cleverley as a screen for the back four. He has better ball distribution (he actually has a forward pass in his locker) and is better under pressure. He also knows the system well so his tactical intelligence would shine in the heart of our midfield. Yeah, don't think you understand what the player offers. The downside to Blind is that he will not give us more power in the midfield. City and Chelsea have Toure and Matic. We either need to sign someone who can match them physically (they don't have to be as big, just have a rottweiler-like presence) or we need to rely on having better technical players with Barca-like work rate.

This is why we're in transition. We're not great physically, and we have a long way to go to be the best footballing team in the league.
 
Herman Van Rompuy said:
Blind would be good alongside Herrera. He's a lot better than Cleverley as a screen for the back four. He has better ball distribution (he actually has a forward pass in his locker) and is better under pressure. He also knows the system well so his tactical intelligence would shine in the heart of our midfield. Yeah, don't think you understand what the player offers. The downside to Blind is that he will not give us more power in the midfield. City and Chelsea have Toure and Matic. We either need to sign someone who can match them physically (they don't have to be as big, just have a rottweiler-like presence) or we need to rely on having better technical players with Barca-like work rate.

This is why we're in transition. We're not great physically, and we have a long way to go to be the best footballing team in the league.
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I think we can go great price and still cover all of the positions. Toss in Nani and get Rojo, then go get Vlar, Blind and De Jong.

This would give us two CB's to play with Jones until Evans is back, leaving Smalling as a quality Sub. Put De Jong in the middle with Herrara, and put Blind on the left until Shaw comes back, then put Blind in the middle and we have a quality sub with De Jong. 4 cheap players that could make a world a defense, plus crazy versalitility.
 
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I wouldnt be surprised if we bring Song in while we wait for Strootman, it wouldn't be a bad alternative. He was great at Arsenal in his final year, and has been training with quality ever since so you would imagine he would have developed potentially.

Think LVG may rather Blind but this is not a bad option. Maybe Arsenal will take him back.
 
Inspired by what Neville said regarding our transfers I thought id do a quick comparison of our dealings over the past 12 months versus those of our rivals in England and other clubs in Europe. All the data was taken from transfermarkt.com and in the case of Rojo I went with the fee that has been talked about by most outlets which is 20m. All amounts in Euros

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While our transfers have not been rubbish necessarily (except for Fellaini perhaps) its easy to see that other teams have managed to get quality players for reasonable prices. We could've had Kroos for 30m, Cesc for 34m , Felipe Luis for 20m, Ogbona for 13m and still got Herrera and Mata for a total of 178 (around 6 million over)

That would be an instant World Class midfield, we would still need to bring in one more CB but the point im trying to get to is that we've spent a decent amount of money in the past year but we havent gotten our money's worth. Arsenal have spent less but have obtained some fantastic players that have improved them.

I know that there are a lot of reasons why we couldnt get those players but it is still frustrating to see how poorly we are performing in the market.
 
If we get Khedira and Di Maria, I'd call it a successful window.

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Jones Smalling Rojo
Rafael Khedira Carrick Shaw
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English journos have been a bit shit regarding our transfers this summer but I will post anything interesting from United in Press on here.
Jonathan Northcroft (The Times), David McDonnell (Daily Mirror) and (the Caf oracle) Andy Mitten (UWS) are on tonight.
 
Mitten suggests United deny Vidal but there is too much noise abroad from very reliable people. David McDonnell said he thinks it's unlikely as it seems that the information is coming from Juventus who want to sell, but you have to tread carefully because United could be lying to them about not being interested. Jonathan Northcroft and David McDonnell don't think he is the type of player we need :wenger:

They see Di Maria as the marquee signing that will take pressure of Ed Woodward and suggest like Ozil last year, Madrid will sell to recoupsome of their outlay, whether it's to us or not is a good question.

Rojo they suggest should be here by the end of the week (be patient muppets).
 
LR7 said:
Mitten suggests United deny Vidal but there is too much noise abroad from very reliable people. David McDonnell said he thinks it's unlikely as it seems that the information is coming from Juventus who want to sell, but you have to tread carefully because United could be lying to them about not being interested. Jonathan Northcroft and David McDonnell don't think he is the type of player we need :wenger:

They see Di Maria as the marquee signing that will take pressure of Ed Woodward and suggest like Ozil last year, Madrid will sell to recoupsome of their outlay, whether it's to us or not is a good question.

Rojo they suggest should be here by the end of the week (be patient muppets).
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Cheers mate, so Mitten still thinks Vidal is on?
 
PlayerOne said:
Cheers mate, so Mitten still thinks Vidal is on?
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He seemed non-committal as I suppose they don't want to look they they're bullshitting but he actually said that he had personally spoken to very influential, well connected people in Italy who have told him that the interest from us is there and Juve are willing to sell (his pronunciation of Juventus gets on my nerves) but whether it happens or not remains to be seen.
 
LR7 said:
He seemed non-committal as I suppose they don't want to look they they're bullshitting but he actually said that he had personally spoken to very influential, well connected people in Italy who have told him that the interest from us is there and Juve are willing to sell (his pronunciation of Juventus gets on my nerves) but whether it happens or not remains to be seen.
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Here's hoping! Sorry for all the questions mate, but who said that Madrid will sell if they make them a good offer?
 
LR7 said:
Mitten suggests United deny Vidal but there is too much noise abroad from very reliable people. David McDonnell said he thinks it's unlikely as it seems that the information is coming from Juventus who want to sell, but you have to tread carefully because United could be lying to them about not being interested. Jonathan Northcroft and David McDonnell don't think he is the type of player we need :wenger:

They see Di Maria as the marquee signing that will take pressure of Ed Woodward and suggest like Ozil last year, Madrid will sell to recoupsome of their outlay, whether it's to us or not is a good question.

Rojo they suggest should be here by the end of the week (be patient muppets).
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A lad at my work said we don't need him. Although he did go on to say he's a left back :lol:. Must be getting muddled up with someone else.
 
revel911 said:
I think we can go great price and still cover all of the positions. Toss in Nani and get Rojo, then go get Vlar, Blind and De Jong.
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Wtf?? Great to see some ambition !! What is it with this Dutch obsession ???

These signings are not what we need- if we want to be back in contention at
Home and with the European elite we need world class players to help lift the club and bring back some confidence and fear factor. We need pace in the attacking third- we need power in the middle and we need proven leaders and winners. They don't come cheap but it has been a long time coming.
 
Acquisition of Rojo is awaited boost for defense and before further moves but still there's no definitive signs about other targets which is worrying.

We need to force some heavy investments.

Now.
 
Van Piorsing said:
Acquisition of Rojo is awaited boost for defense and before further moves but still there's no definitive signs about other targets which is worrying.

We need to force some heavy investments.

Now.
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Think this signing wraps up our summer business.
 
Well, I voted one more signing in the Caf poll which has now taken place. Unfortunately I see it staying that way as Ed is unable to sort his shit out.
 
yamo123x said:
Wtf?? Great to see some ambition !! What is it with this Dutch obsession ???

These signings are not what we need- if we want to be back in contention at
Home and with the European elite we need world class players to help lift the club and bring back some confidence and fear factor. We need pace in the attacking third- we need power in the middle and we need proven leaders and winners. They don't come cheap but it has been a long time coming.
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I am only saying alternatively to nothing.

BTW, I am a huge Dutch fan, so being a bit biased.
 
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