Manchester United transfer news and rumours for summer 2014

Juan't Mata said:
No body has a divine right to any type of transfer. Truth of the matter is the BIG signings will always opt for Barca or Madrid over us, and the likes of City, PSG and Chelsea can offer crazy money.
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We do not I agree, because we are not even buying enough players that is the problem, yea if we sign rojo maybe he will be good, he adds more depth to the defence, still does not solve the problem our engine room is still a complete mess. Our current CM players are herrera fletcher cleverley anderson fellaini with carrick injured, I do not care who offers crazy money, this club should have been doing far more in the transfer market to solve our failed engine room. This is where the scouts come in, doing more in the transfer market to find those gems that will improve the squad if we cannot get those big players

If we cannot get vidal, look at someone else. I do not think it needed a crazy offer to require strootman did it
 
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bucky said:
I wasn't saying that. I am quite alright with signing Mata and Van Persie, but people like you seem to forget very quickly that we actually buy such players, but they are not what we usually do transfer-wise. We buy young players with potential and develop them into better players, that's what we are about and that was what I was talking about.



Where did I say in my post you initially responed to that we don't have to improve further or have no right to sign players like di Maria or Vidal? I just said it's unlike us. I would love us to sign Hummels, bring in Schneiderlin, who isn't the big name either and maybe someone else, but as Ronaldo, Carrick, Evra, Vidic and Hernandez have shown, you don't always have to sign the big names. None of them was a big name, when they signed for us.
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Yes I agree on not getting these big players, I think it helps, I would not want Rooney and RVP being replaced in the future with average players, like we have seen in midfield and defence. I think the club is held back by the glazers still, and I do not think our scouts are doing enough, we bought no one in CM for 7 years until this summer that will improve our squad. Now if we look at barca 2009 and 2011 in how we got ripped apart, our reaction in the transfer market has been bizarre to say the least. Our terrible season under Moyes, our only truly big reaction was sacking Moyes. Yes we signed herrera and shaw, but I do find it unacceptable it is august 12th, and our summer business is still not over. I think it is a poor excuse other clubs can offer crazy money, it should not stop the club scouting for better players. When Woodwood flaps his jaws up and down about our financial situation, and what we see in the transfer market, it is very frustrating. I want united to improve the squad, get rid of the dead wood like anderson fletcher cleverley fellaini valencia nani even kagwa, and improve our midfield so we can compete in Europe, win championships and become the teams we were in 94 99 and 08.
 
Brophs said:
I don't really think it is a conundrum. Quite clearly we fancied Hummels and Vermaelen, neither of whom would have come here to be a sub. If we bring in someone and they're better than Jones or Smalling then they should okay and hopefully spur on the other players to improve. I'm all for giving young players a chance but other than Evans, we don't have a centre half without big question marks over them.
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Well, I meant it was more of a conundrum for me. I'd like to see Jones and Smalling make it. But I know we need the numbers, given their injury records.
 
Y2A said:
I agree with your point in general but if we sign a couple of players like CM/ CB, I think we could actually challenge for the title. We are not that far away actually. We can't take the ever spending Barca or Real as standards but spending a bit heavily in this transfer window could make us actually challeneg for the title at the least.

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-----------Smalling---Evans----CB-------

Rafael---------------------------------Shaw

---------------Vidal------Herrera---------

Janujaz--------------------------------Mata

-------------------Rooney----------------

With players in Squad like RVP, Jones, Fletcher, Young, Kagawa, Valencia, Welbeck, Hernandez, Carrick and the rest, we have decent enough back up as well. And our most important asset i.e. LVG.
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We are an outside bet for the title imo we are 3rd favs behind Chelsea and City who are owned by sugar daddies we are at the opposite end of the spectrum as we have people who are interested in making money of United. But we are not as bad as folk are making out. DDG Shaw Smalling Rafael Herrera Mata Rooney RVP and even Welbeck & Jones and possibly Carrick to a lesser extend would get a starting place for most of our rivals imo.
 
Lawman said:
DDG Shaw Smalling Rafael Herrera Mata Rooney RVP and even Welbeck & Jones and possibly Carrick to a lesser extend would get a starting place for most of our rivals imo.
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You're kidding?

De Gea would, I'll give you that. Chelsea have Courtois who is comparable but the rest have much worse goalkeepers.

Shaw wouldn't, Smalling wouldn't, Rafael wouldn't.

Herrera wouldn't get into Chelsea or City's midfields.

Mata was on the bench at Chelsea and wouldn't dislodge Silva at City. Wouldn't fit into Liverpool's style of play, wouldn't dislodge Ozil, Cazorla or any of Arsenal's other players in that area eitther.

Rooney and RVP would.

Welbeck is laughable and Jones would be nowhere near.

Carrick wouldn't get into any of the past seasons top four.
 
matherto said:
You're kidding?

De Gea would, I'll give you that. Chelsea have Courtois who is comparable but the rest have much worse goalkeepers.

Shaw wouldn't, Smalling wouldn't, Rafael wouldn't.

Herrera wouldn't get into Chelsea or City's midfields.

Mata was on the bench at Chelsea and wouldn't dislodge Silva at City. Wouldn't fit into Liverpool's style of play, wouldn't dislodge Ozil, Cazorla or any of Arsenal's other players in that area eitther.

Rooney and RVP would.

Welbeck is laughable and Jones would be nowhere near.

Carrick wouldn't get into any of the past seasons top four.
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Shaw would walk into LB at any the other teams, agree with Herrera at City & Chelsea but he'd start for Liverpool and possibly Arsenal. Smalling would imo play for most apart from Chelsea last year. Liverpool wouldn't play Mata lol ok and as I said Carrick Jones and Welbeck are debatable.
 
Lawman said:
Shaw would walk into LB at any the other teams, agree with Herrera at City & Chelsea but he'd start for Liverpool and possibly Arsenal. Smalling would imo play for most apart from Chelsea last year. Liverpool wouldn't play Mata lol ok and as I said Carrick Jones and Welbeck are debatable.
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Shaw over both Luis and Azpi at Chelsea? Not sure about that.
 
I don't know how many of those players will start for whatever team. But that's a good set of players and if we can get them to play cohesively, that's a quality team.
 
So far we've had a weak transfer window as compared to our rivals even though we finished 7th last season and should've strengthened much faster. This is a consequence of not having LvG start his job earlier but it is what it is. I'd be shocked if we do not make any further signings so I expect at least one possibly Blind. It will be a challenge to finish 4th this season tbh Liverpool have spent the Suarez money well and even though they didnt really replace his goals they have added depth to their squad.

This is very frustrating I really hope we do make a marquee signing (Vidal) but I dont think its likely to happen now. Hope im proven wrong.
 
If we sign Rojo and Blind until the end of window I will be very happy with our business.
 
Losing a bit of will with this window.

So much promise and necessity to actually sign some true world class players. Yet it does seem we just cant/not prepared to get deals over the line yet again. Do find it a bit ridiculous when it is obvious from last season that we needed a big summer. We've got weaker in comparison to Chelsea, our only highlight is LVG, but its still the players on the pitch who perform and ours arent good enough. We've lost a load of experience and bought in 2 players not good enough in my opinion and slightly concerned that as fans we're dropping expectations just as rumours etc fizzle out. Who would have said pre window - bring in Rojo and Blind and that'll be a great window (that's not having a pop at anyone on here) as I'd almost settle for that now, but it's not good enough when we start the window wanting Vidal and Hummels (however unlikely that actually is).

Shaw and Herrera both good signings, but for me Herrera was done last summer, and Shaw conversations would have been happening for months prior to WC.
 
JustAFan said:
Who said who flew back for transfer business?

The "watch this space" comment was very stupid of him.

The thing we do not know at this point is what players LvG has given to Woodie as targets and that makes it difficult to know what is or is not going on. If the players we are most rumoured to be after are not on the list, then Woodie gets a pass for not signing them doesn't he, since we most likely never even tried because the manager did nto want them.
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He flew on transfer business last summer and nothing happened.
 
Deserve doesnt get mentioned much in football but our transfer activity to date isnt deserving of a team trying to go from 7th into the top 4 and possible even better!
 
We and Liverpool have had completing different approaches in this transfer window. They've signed loads of players and seemingly taken what I hope are a lot of cheap punts in the process. We seem to have focused our attention a few key names and positions. Obviously it can be argued that they needed more numbers whereas we needed quality but it's hardly as we've gone for two top footballers in shaw and Herrera. On the other hand maybe we want stability in the squad, but I'd argue against that.

Let's we which approach works this season.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
We and Liverpool have had completing different approaches in this transfer window. They've signed loads of players and seemingly taken what I hope are a lot of cheap punts in the process. We seem to have focused our attention a few key names and positions. Obviously it can be argued that they needed more numbers whereas we needed quality but it's hardly as we've gone for two top footballers in shaw and Herrera. On the other hand maybe we want stability in the squad, but I'd argue against that.

Let's we which approach works this season.
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Hopefully Liverpool's purchases work out the same as Spurs last season, where they went for the scatter gun approach with the Bale money, buying as many players as they could and hoping some would come good. Not enough did.
 
matherto said:
You're kidding?

De Gea would, I'll give you that. Chelsea have Courtois who is comparable but the rest have much worse goalkeepers.

Shaw wouldn't, Smalling wouldn't, Rafael wouldn't.

Herrera wouldn't get into Chelsea or City's midfields.

Mata was on the bench at Chelsea and wouldn't dislodge Silva at City. Wouldn't fit into Liverpool's style of play, wouldn't dislodge Ozil, Cazorla or any of Arsenal's other players in that area eitther.

Rooney and RVP would.

Welbeck is laughable and Jones would be nowhere near.

Carrick wouldn't get into any of the past seasons top four.
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You are fecking bonkers.
 
Rednotdead said:
Hopefully Liverpool's purchases work out the same as Spurs last season, where they went for the scatter gun approach with the Bale money, buying as many players as they could and hoping some would come good. Not enough did.
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Hopefully. If not, then they've got a lot of good footballers in one window without much hassle and long drawn out nonsense.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
Hopefully. If not, then they've got a lot of good footballers in one window without much hassle and long drawn out nonsense.
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Yes. I read a report earlier today that PSG had dropped out of the running for Di Maria because they felt the price was too dear. The report went on to say that we are now in the running for him but we don't want to pay the asking price - 'twas ever thus :(
 
matherto said:
Mata was on the bench at Chelsea and wouldn't dislodge Silva at City. Wouldn't fit into Liverpool's style of play, wouldn't dislodge Ozil, Cazorla or any of Arsenal's other players in that area eitther.
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Totally disagree on this point. Mou didn't fancy him because of his defensive weakness but he's a better player than Oscar. Definitely better than cazorla too. Ozil and Silva's its tighter and more up for debate, but he's a far better player than nasri who starts a lot of games for city
 
We knew that we needed 5 players in and 5 players out before this window started and this hasn't changed but with each passing day this is looking less likely. :( I wouldn't be surprised if Swansea give us a lot of trouble with our very inexperienced defenders with Evans and Shaw both out injured.
 
He's certainly better than Cazorla and Coutinho anyway.

Ozil v Silva v Mata is a close debate though.
 
I think the Glazers have taken the Old Arsenal business model, get into the top 4 and everyone's happy.

The money for coming 1st and 4th ain't that much considering how much money needs to be spent to come first. So if the Glazers can spend minimum and get a good ROI then we dont need to spend 100's of millions like Chelsea and Citeh.

So I think the Glazers will be happy coming 4th like Arsenal do(did) as it still offers them good value on investment.

From a fans point of view it's a disgrace and if I find myself celebrating 4th like we used to celebrate winning the league then that will be a sad day.

The only way I see we can return to the top is if we get taking over by a sugar daddy or the glazers put there money where there mouth is...

Thoughts please?
 
Will Singh said:
I think the Glazers have taken the Old Arsenal business model, get into the top 4 and everyone's happy.

The money for coming 1st and 4th ain't that much considering how much money needs to be spent to come first. So if the Glazers can spend minimum and get a good ROI then we dont need to spend 100's of millions like Chelsea and Citeh.

So I think the Glazers will be happy coming 4th like Arsenal do(did) as it still offers them good value on investment.

From a fans point of view it's a disgrace and if I find myself celebrating 4th like we used to celebrate winning the league then that will be a sad day.

The only way I see we can return to the top is if we get taking over by a sugar daddy or the glazers put there money where there mouth is...

Thoughts please?
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We've a manager and fanbase that will not accept Arsenal like success.
 
Will Singh said:
I think the Glazers have taken the Old Arsenal business model, get into the top 4 and everyone's happy.

The money for coming 1st and 4th ain't that much considering how much money needs to be spent to come first. So if the Glazers can spend minimum and get a good ROI then we dont need to spend 100's of millions like Chelsea and Citeh.

So I think the Glazers will be happy coming 4th like Arsenal do(did) as it still offers them good value on investment.

From a fans point of view it's a disgrace and if I find myself celebrating 4th like we used to celebrate winning the league then that will be a sad day.

The only way I see we can return to the top is if we get taking over by a sugar daddy or the glazers put there money where there mouth is...

Thoughts please?
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I think the most people, Glazers included, would take 4th this season. The most important thing right now is to get back in the Champions League.

I would be surprised if the owners are content for us to be an also-ran in the long term though. It's difficult to build a premium commercial brand on the back of mediocre results.
 
Will Singh said:
I think the Glazers have taken the Old Arsenal business model, get into the top 4 and everyone's happy.

The money for coming 1st and 4th ain't that much considering how much money needs to be spent to come first. So if the Glazers can spend minimum and get a good ROI then we dont need to spend 100's of millions like Chelsea and Citeh.

So I think the Glazers will be happy coming 4th like Arsenal do(did) as it still offers them good value on investment.

From a fans point of view it's a disgrace and if I find myself celebrating 4th like we used to celebrate winning the league then that will be a sad day.

The only way I see we can return to the top is if we get taking over by a sugar daddy or the glazers put there money where there mouth is...

Thoughts please?
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You can kiss LVG goodbye if we get bought out, he won't stand for people being replaced with expensive mercenaries.
 
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