Manchester United transfer news and rumours for summer 2014

Santos J said:
It's not really smart at all considering he'd cost £20m minimum and is currently better than Shaw. We didn't just spend £30m on him to be back up and we don't need to be rotating them every week when they're both at the stage where they need regular game time.
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What if we do sell Evra to Juve and we only have Shaw? we will need another natural wing back.
 
SolidState said:
What if we do sell Evra to Juve and we only have Shaw? we will need another natural wing back.
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Yeah I get that, but it doesn't need to be someone who's better than what we have and would cost in excess of £20m. Neither Rodriguez or Shaw would be happy to play back up and they're both young, it's not like one would gradually be phased out.
 
Having two talented young players in the same position and rotating them is a very bad idea imo. It's one thing to do that with one talented young player and an older player, but eventually, both youngsters will want to start and you're hurting their development by not playing them enough. A better idea than spending alot of money on another left back would be to simply keep Evra and not waste more money than we'd earn by selling him.
 
Indeed, particuarly with no European football. You're looking at another Buttner as backup if you opt to sell Evra. A great reason not to sell Evra as far as I'm concerned... give the guy his testimonial, he deserves that tenth season.
 
Loony BoB said:
Indeed, particuarly with no European football. You're looking at another Buttner as backup if you opt to sell Evra. A great reason not to sell Evra as far as I'm concerned... give the guy his testimonial, he deserves that tenth season.
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It might not be us that wants Paddy gone; it might be Evra himself that wants to leave and only signed the contract to give us a bit of money when he leaves. Either way, I'd want to give the man a testimonial.
 
Vidic has already proven that you don't get a testimonial if you leave. Evra needs to stick around this one year longer, dammit! He's easily worth keeping as a backup to Shaw at the bare minimum.
 
Honestly, I believe we still intend to bring in a lot more players.

At the moment, I'm thinking these are our primary targets:

Hummels (for quality)
Vermaelen (for experience and depth)
Vidal (for quality)
di Maria (for quality)
Depay (for potential)

There will obviously be alternatives and the odds of us getting all of those players is probably quite low. It seems Carvalho is simply a backup in case we don't sign Vidal - I definitely expect us to sign one of them. I could also see us signing De Jong even if we get Vidal. In terms of backup to Hummels, there really aren't any. We can get other cbs, but there are no others of his quality available. There's a lot of talk of De Vrij, but he is not a good defender by any means. I also think Smalling will be leaving after this season. He is terrible with the ball at his feet and Van Gaal's cbs need to be able to play the ball out from defence. Evans and Jones will be fine. Vermaelen is just to replace the experience lost with the departures of Rio and Vida imo. I definitely see us signing at least two cbs. I don't know if the di Maria rumours are true, but I hope they are - an absolutely world class player and, if quotes are to be believed, a Utd fan, which will mean increased effort and commitment. I see us signing Depay without any trouble whatsoever and will be thoroughly shocked if he doesn't join soon after the World Cup. He'll simply be a backup in his first two seasons imo.

In terms of departures:

Anderson, Nani (possibly as part of the Vidal deal), Zaha, Fellaini, Hernandez, Bebé.

We will try to sell Young, but no team will agree to his inflated wage demands. He will barely play next season. Smalling will not be sold in the first season as he will act as backup and he has already adapted to the Premier League. Imo, Van Gaal will not wish to bring so many players without BPL experience in the first year. He'll move to a team like Everton next season.

Carrick will remain as a backup, though he's not the type of player that will suit Van Gaal's style, he will struggle imo. Rooney may also struggle to adapt, though I have no doubt that Van Gaal will want to use him in the first XI. Welbeck will probably impress Van Gaal and surprise him. Provided he doesn't complain about not being played as a striker, I think he will remain here. Januzaj will prosper in Van Gaal's system imo as both Van Gaal's main formations suit him perfectly. I feel Van Gaal will promote some youngsters and use them as backups, including Lingard, Pearson, Powell, Henriquez, Wilson and Janko. I'm undecided on Lawrence atm. De Gea will continue on his impressive form from last season and will benefit from another very good goalkeeping coach.
 
It's all been so quiet regarding possible signings since Shaw and Herrera, at least the reliable journos aren't really mentioning any concrete names but just saying the old happy with 2-3 more signings.
 
If we even sign one of Vidal, Hummels or Di maria, I would be surprised. Its all just pure muppetry with no source to go on. I am guessing we will have to do with second choice players to get into top 4 and then build on from there next season.
 
bleedred said:
If we even sign one of Vidal, Hummels or Di maria, I would be surprised. Its all just pure muppetry with no source to go on. I am guessing we will have to do with second choice players to get into top 4 and then build on from there next season.
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Actually it was Andy Mitten, who said before we signed Shaw, that United felt closest to signing Hummels. He's obviously wrong from time to time, still he usually doesn't spout some nonsene without any basis. I wouldn't even entertain the idea of hoping to sign Hummels, but since it was Mitten I remain slightly hopeful that Hummels thinks were are interesting enough to leave Dortmund.

Fabian Schär would probably be my choice currently for central defence, if we are unable to sign Hummels.
 
We're not getting Valdes it makes no sense when we have a loyal back up in Lindegaard and a pretty much superior keeper in David De Gea. I am also not happy we are linked to Vermaelen which makes little sense, our centrebacks may have had their injuries but he's even worse, and he's clearly not the player he used to be. We could get someone else as good for cheaper elsewhere, or even someone younger. The only reason we are getting him is because he's left footed apparently, which is not enough for me.
 
I surely hope we do make at least one more top signing before preseason. Come on Woodward don't let us down!
 
Mirror:
Manchester United are considering whether to hijack Valencia's move for Argentina World Cup midfielder Enzo Perez.
 
bleedred said:
If we even sign one of Vidal, Hummels or Di maria, I would be surprised. Its all just pure muppetry with no source to go on. I am guessing we will have to do with second choice players to get into top 4 and then build on from there next season.
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Problem is? we have settled for second choice players since ronaldo left in 09, so this is nothing new. And it took fergie's last season 3 years later, to get an A star player like RVP, and what happened? it help us win the title
 
Oneunited26 said:
Problem is? we have settled for second choice players since ronaldo left in 09, so this is nothing new. And it took fergie's last season 3 years later, to get an A star player like RVP, and what happened? it help us win the title
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Yes. I do understand we need WC players. But I don't see us signing them. Atleast the ones mentioned.
 
Andy Mitten says we're interested in Di Maria but no contact has been made yet. Have been in contact with Juve regarding Vidal & that Hummels is still a principle target. Expects 2/3 more signings and van Gaal wants to work with a squad of around 20.
 
bleedred said:
Yes. I do understand we need WC players. But I don't see us signing them. Atleast the ones mentioned.
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Depends if Madrid get cold feet again and need to offload players to fund new ones, and di Maria is defiantly realistic.

That is what MUFC have done the fans the past few years, especially since 2009, lowered the clubs expectations on players. That is why Madrid and barca are the biggest clubs, their ambition to hit peaks is unmatched, while united think they can hit Mount Everest which is the champions league in shorts and Tshirt, well that is what fergie thought, he could win a European cup with the midfield he currently had.
 
Oneunited26 said:
Depends if Madrid get cold feet again and need to offload players to fund new ones, and di Maria is defiantly realistic.

That is what MUFC have done the fans the past few years, especially since 2009, lowered the clubs expectations on players. That is why Madrid and barca are the biggest clubs, their ambition to hit peaks is unmatched, while united think they can hit Mount Everest which is the champions league in shorts and Tshirt, well that is what fergie thought, he could win a European cup with the midfield he currently had.
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Horseshit. Speak for yourself.
 
Santos J said:
Andy Mitten says we're interested in Di Maria but no contact has been made yet. Have been in contact with Juve regarding Vidal & that Hummels is still a principle target. Expects 2/3 more signings and van Gaal wants to work with a squad of around 20.
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This all sounds about right and I'm happy to take it at face value. He's sticking by the Hummels news and I'm reassured by this and also especially by the view that LVG wants to whittle this squad down to 20. I'm as excited by the potential pruning of deadwood as I am by potential incomers tbh.
 
Di Maria would probably be the easiest to get as he appears to be surplus to requirements at Madrid, while it appears that Vidal is the one we've done the most work on so far. Hummels would certainly be the most unlikely buy as Dortmund will likely refuse to sell and he definitely won't push for a move.

If we got one of those three I'd be very happy. Two of them would be pretty amazing. Three clearly won't happen.
 
Hang about, how many players are in the squad currently?
 
We better have some good fall back options. Highly doubt we'll sign any one of Di Maria, Vidal or Hummels.
 
SolidShite said:
Hang about, how many players are in the squad currently?
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I'm counting around 22 proper squad members off the top of my head. Add in new signings/promoted players and we'll probably need to get rid of seven or so players before the summer is out?
 
SolidShite said:
Hang about, how many players are in the squad currently?
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DDG, Lindegaard
Rafael, Smalling, Jones, Evans, Shaw
Herrera, Carrick, Fellaini, Fletcher, Cleverley, Anderson
Mata, Kagawa, Januzaj, Nani, Valencia, Young
RvP, Rooney, Welbeck, Hernandez

Think that's the 23 presuming Evra's gone.
 
According to Google the current squad is as such:


- Shaw
- Herrera
- Anderson 2m?

First Team
1. De Gea
2. Rafeal
3. Evra 2m
4. Jones
6. Evans
8. Mata
10. Rooney
12. Smalling
13. Lindegaard
14. Chicharito
16. Carrick
17. Nani Vidal exchange?
18. Young 10m?
19. Welbeck
20. RVP
23. Cleverley 10m?
24. Fletcher
25. Valencia
26. Kagawa
29. Zaha
31. Fellaini 14m?
44. Januzaj

Reserves
21. Henriques
30. Varela
32. Powell
33. Bebe
34. Lawrence
35. Lingard
36. Vermilj
38. Keane
40. Amos
47. Wilson
48. Keane
50. Johnson

So that is 19 first team players of which to chose from discounting the players we expect to leave, it sounds to me as if we will have to bite the bullet and perhaps sell a couple of first team players we actually like. My bets would be on Kagawa as part of the Hummels deal and Chicharito. :( two of my favourite players.

Possible additions?

7. Di Maria
22. Vidal
15. Hummels

:P
 
If we assume we'll make three more signings and promote at least one youth player then we still have four or so players to get rid of? Hernandez, Kagawa, Zaha and Fletcher seem like the most likely candidates...
 
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So what do you think? Win the league?
 
bucky said:
Horseshit. Speak for yourself.
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Who did united replace Ronaldo with? Ah yes Valencia obertan and Owen, what did fergie say about the transfer market back then? Ah yes we want value for money, the biggest clubs in the world never say that. When fans say Vidal di Maria are unrealistic signings, that says it all
 
Only thing I hope is that our transfers are complete before the squad leaves for the Tour. Whether it's a minuscule transfer like Vermaelen or a pipe dream signing like Vidal, I think we just want to know what we have going forward and as a result won't have to worry about persistent transfer rumors going into August.
 
Oneunited26 said:
Who did united replace Ronaldo with? Ah yes Valencia obertan and Owen, what did fergie say about the transfer market back then? Ah yes we want value for money, the biggest clubs in the world never say that. When fans say Vidal di Maria are unrealistic signings, that says it all
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Sensible clubs says that. Every club goes for value in the marked but what truly gives value for money is up to the club itself to decide. Fergie had an unique position in the club which made him able to build a team in a different way than others. He didnt want to see the club spend insane amounts of money on players who werent worth it.
 
Petr1 said:
Sensible clubs says that. Every club goes for value in the marked but what truly gives value for money is up to the club itself to decide. Fergie had an unique position in the club which made him able to build a team in a different way than others. He didnt want to see the club spend insane amounts of money on players who werent worth it.
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These players are all worth it. We have a marketing campaign with Kagawa in the front 3...says it all.
 
Utd7 said:
Only thing I hope is that our transfers are complete before the squad leaves for the Tour. Whether it's a minuscule transfer like Vermaelen or a pipe dream signing like Vidal, I think we just want to know what we have going forward and as a result won't have to worry about persistent transfer rumors going into August.
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There is going to be rumours right up til the end of August no mater who we sign before the US tour, that's just the way the tabloids work. Even if Vidal, Di Maria and Hummels are signed next week we would still be linked to Rodriquez and Pogba throughout August. United transfer rumours sell papers.
 
:wenger:Supposedly according to a conversation I just had at lunch with another United fan, our next signing is key to LvG being successful at United. If the next signing is not a marquee signing, who does not flop, then regardless of who else we sign in the window we are doomed and LvG will fail. No amount of pointing out the flaws of that logic could make him shift.

So if our next signing is a flop, regardless of how Herrerra and Shaw do and/or how anyone else we sign after that do, we are doomed.
 
JustAFan said:
:wenger:Supposedly according to a conversation I just had at lunch with another United fan, our next signing is key to LvG being successful at United. If the next signing is not a marquee signing, who does not flop, then regardless of who else we sign in the window we are doomed and LvG will fail. No amount of pointing out the flaws of that logic could make him shift.

So if our next signing is a flop, regardless of how Herrerra and Shaw do and/or how anyone else we sign after that do, we are doomed.
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Interesting logic :wenger:
 
I imagine it will 20 + kids if so.

Young, Fellaini, Hernandez, Evra, Anderson, Bebe the obvious possibilities to leave. Then maybe Nani, one of Kagawa/Rooney/Cleverley too. (Valencia signed a new deal or he also.)

Fletcher is a tricky one.

Depends on various factors but should be amongst these only.
 
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