Manchester United Summer Transfer Window 2015: What do we still need?
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People keep mentioning Schweinsteiger when he has blatantly already rejected us. If we can get a top CB along with Schneiderlin such as Otamendi (who might go to City instead) then that is a great summer and we can go into the new season feeling good even if we only sign 2 more top players like that. I reckon we should go all out to sign on top fo that the best kids like Youri Tielemans and Aleksander Mitrovic - two players who will be big names in a year or two...LVG is the perfect guy to nurture them
I agree
The people saying Valdes can easily replace DDG really do not get how important the GK position is, and especially how good DDG has played he needs replacing. The RB position defiantly needs looking at, many saying valencia done fine there, he was alright, but do we want to continue to play makeshift players in a specialized position? The CB position overall I say we need 2, atleast one top class one that can bring order to our backline
In midfield while there is talent, we need 2, a new anchor man, and a CM to play alongside herrera, we are short on both. Every year carrick plays, he is another year older and I aint talking about 26 going on 27 we talking 33 going on 34, and blind is a squad player not someone that will transform any position. But where are these top quality ones? that is the problem. Atleast the wide position strengthened, with potential to become one of the best in his position.
Upfront, for me this should be the clubs priority next season, this season is rebuilding the teams backbone, a GK if DDG leaves, a RB and a CB, and 2 CM players. So in theory we are short of 4 players if DDG stays, 5 if DDG leaves.
Summer 2016 is when I feel another CB and striker should be signed. The biggest concern is getting our backbone strengthened, we fail to do this? is setting us back even more, and VG at his current age has manager, he has not got allot luxury summers to mess about, every summer counts for VG unless he sees himself here for another 4 years
For me, what it comes down to is looking at where we have a strong chance of getting a strong season from a player on the team as a starter or backup. Where we don't, we need signings. So, I have it like this, with backups in brackets:
--------Rooney------ (RVP/Chicharito, Wilson/Henriquez)
Memphis----DiMaria (Mata, Januzaj, Young)
-----LCM--Herrera-- (Fellaini, Pereira)
---------DM--------- (Carrick, Blind)
Shaw-------------RB (Blind, Rojo, Valencia)
------LCB-Smalling- (Jones, Rojo)
---------GK--------- (Valdes, Anyone)
The only stretch there might be Pereira being ready but if he's not Di Maria or Mata could provide offense there and Blind or the new DM could provide defensive work, so that's not a huge worry.
That's 21 outfield players for 10 spots, which seems about right considering Carrick's injuries and age. The only position where 2 injuries would absolutely kill us is goalkeeper and maybe striker. An emergency game or two for a youngster or someone like Memphis or Fellaini playing upfront for 2 weeks isn't the end of the world, either.
So, if we make the right choices and can get one for those 5 spots we'll be strong as long as we gel okay:
Ramos/Otamendi
Schneiderlin/Schweinsteiger
Fabinho/Coleman/Darmian
Lloris/Leno
CM - We really haven't been linked to much apart from Gundogan yet. I'd love to see us go ambitious here like Juve did with Pogba. Sign a hotshot youngster we like and if he isn't totally ready we have the Schneiderlin/Schweinsteiger option there with Carrick/Blind starting at DM, as well as Di Maria, Mata and Fellaini as options there to provide offense.
That's a lot of change, but we're coming off a 62 goal season in which we didn't do much in the cups and had the lighter no Champions League season, so I don't mind. And if we struggle we know we have units that can do a job and at least keep things solid with the Young/Fellaini/LB trio, Mata/Herrera/Valencia on the right and Smalling/Jones as a partnership.
I do think we are awfully short in the number 6 position, along with the GK position if DDG leaves, RB is short on a first choice player, yes there is talent in the midfield, but for the impact someone like Carrick gives us, it is key we sign someone long term who can take his mantle. If an injury to Herrera and Carrick happens, it could get hairy in the engine room
Again when you see, if we struggle? Do we want to continue to struggle? Again. Or do we want to start showing some intent, and solve these problems innghebnext few years, because for too long has the spine of the team been out weakness. Summers like this are key, with no world cup and Euro's, its key to strike it hot.
If we're not convinced by Gundogan's health and we need a CM, we could do worse than Aranguiz. He could start for a year and hopefully we can sell Fellaini and replace him with a star at CM in 2016 after we have a better season and are therefore more attractive to top players. Aranguiz can then backup Herrera and this new signing.
Aranguiz-Herrera
---Schneiderlin--
would be an absolute bitch to play against and could move the ball quite well.
I'd like a midfielder that can dictate the tempo like Modric can. And I would like to see more pace up top in behind the 9. Bale would be sensational but he's not coming unfortunately.
I'am getting worried at the lack of signings
We probably need to sign like 4 or 5 new players maybay even more and the only deal we have concluded thusfar is Depay. Normally I wouldn't care since we still have like 2 months but now we are in CL play-off we really need to have fully functioning team by the start of august which means it is critical Van Gaal has his team together when they jet off to the US for pre season and that is already in 2 weeks time.
Either the next 2 weeks stuff really needs to start happening or we'll be in trouble due to bad transferwinbdow and pre season yet again !
We probably need to sign like 4 or 5 new players maybay even more and the only deal we have concluded thusfar is Depay. Normally I wouldn't care since we still have like 2 months but now we are in CL play-off we really need to have fully functioning team by the start of august which means it is critical Van Gaal has his team together when they jet off to the US for pre season and that is already in 2 weeks time.
Either the next 2 weeks stuff really needs to start happening or we'll be in trouble due to bad transferwinbdow and pre season yet again !
Make it happen Woody.
I think it is still more likely we won't sign Ramos, Coleman and Sneiderlin than we will.
Make it happen Woody.
This is the best muppet line-up builder thingymajig I've seen.
So you don't think we'll sign anybody?
This is the best muppet line-up builder thingymajig I've seen.
So you don't think we'll sign anybody?
I think we could be surprised by who van Gaal signs. Some of the signings last year were out of the blue.
I'll admit that the Sneiderlin one looks most likely but only because there has been more coverage.
Then again, we ended up not signing Sneijder and the coverage was similar.
The only one I felt was really out of the blue was Rojo, and in truth there just isn't a huge pool of options in the positions we seem to be targeting. The Ramos one is fishy to me, but Schneiderlin and Coleman just seem like the kind of logical signings we have always made as a club.
I suppose my view is skewed a little because the majority of 'news' I see is from muppets on here.
Id be well happy if we brought in the 3 guys in the main transfer threads
Ramos
Coleman
Schneiderlain
That's a good window imo anyone else is a bonus wouldn't mind a proper number 9 coming in too though.
Ramos
Coleman
Schneiderlain
That's a good window imo anyone else is a bonus wouldn't mind a proper number 9 coming in too though.
We won't challenge for the title with just bringing in them, in my opinion.
What happened to having all the deals done early anyway? It's moving very slowly, frustratingly so.
True but it's a good start and will help us solidify top 4 next season.
To answer the thread title:
-Goal keeper to replace DDG
-Rightback to replace Rafael
-Cenreback partner for Smalling
-Defensive midfielder to replace/compete with Carrick
-Central midfielder to play alongside or compete with Herrera
-Striker to replace RVP
But we are taking our sweet fecking time to do it !
-Goal keeper to replace DDG
-Rightback to replace Rafael
-Cenreback partner for Smalling
-Defensive midfielder to replace/compete with Carrick
-Central midfielder to play alongside or compete with Herrera
-Striker to replace RVP
But we are taking our sweet fecking time to do it !
According to LVG, he wants to be challenging for the title though, not solidifying.q
We may need all those, but I can't see it happening.
Well than I can't see us having a good season.
Yeah but what he wants and what is possible may be two different things.
To answer the thread title:
Q. What do we need?
A. Some players
Not 'no players at all', some players.
Which means we actually have to go out and buy said players, as sitting around doing nothing is not conducive to realising this goal.
Q. What do we need?
A. Some players
Not 'no players at all', some players.
Which means we actually have to go out and buy said players, as sitting around doing nothing is not conducive to realising this goal.
No provably not but we can't go out and sign 7 or 8 players.
Tbh next year id be happy with a top3 finish a decent run in champs league, quarter finals at least and an FA cup win
I don't think we should be aiming for top 3 in the league. I think the aim should be the title and if we don't get it than atleast we should be close to it in terms of points. If that means third place and being 2 or 3 points off that is fine but if we are third or even second and 10 points off the champions that is not good enough.
CL QF would nice, FA cup don't care all that much to be honest.
I don't see why we can't sign 7-8 players. We have the cash and the need is there.
Depay already in
If DDG goes we'll need a GK
Falcao is out and RVP and Hernandez probably going to follow so a striker is needed aswell
Carrick replacement on the MF is critical and nr 1 priority for LVG this summer
Our defence needs to be improved with atleast a CB and as it is very likely Rafael might leave we'll also need a RB to compete with Valencia.
If we have coverred those needs we'll have signed already 6 players.
Going for less than that and we'll be in trouble for atleast a couple of positions next season.
We're seriously under threat of fecking up the whole of next season if we don't pull our fingers out right now and get some players in. It's like the club is taking the fact we will qualify for the UCL for granted.
Anyone know when we leave on tour? I would have thought that we were going to basically complete all our deals by then, but our first game is in 2 weeks I think. We'll probably add Schneiderlin before we go, but other then that I hope it doesn't drag on too long.
We still have a right back (Coleman?), center back (Ramos/Otamendi?), maybe a striker, and then maybe Schweinsteiger as well to sign. Just hope we finish them before the season starts so we aren't playing catch up from game 1.
We still have a right back (Coleman?), center back (Ramos/Otamendi?), maybe a striker, and then maybe Schweinsteiger as well to sign. Just hope we finish them before the season starts so we aren't playing catch up from game 1.
Depay is a great signing and will add some flair and attacking threat
When de Gea leaves I think the club has intentions will make valdes our new number 1 which is a huge mistake, he's awful.
Carrick replacement, well there's a ready made replacement in Schneiderlin yet the club seems to be dragging its heels on him, no idea why it's incredibly frustrating he's perfect yet we aren't making moves for him.
We do need a new striker but again the club seems to be really slow there's a few decent strikers about like icardi, lacazette or even someone like Benteke.
Ramos has made it clear he wants a move to us but again we are dragging our heels, he's practicallly said come and get me so I can't see the hold up I think LVG likes valencia for some reason so I'd be suprised if we go for another RB, especially since Clyne has just moved without any offer from us.
That is solving certain parts of the teams long term problems, but? got to sort out the GK situation, valdes being no1 will be a time bomb waiting to go off, he is 33, poor in the air, blows hot and cold, and will be one of the big weaknesses in the team. Schneiderlain and depay will not be enough in midfield. 3 will not be enough to challenge for the title, it will just make us stronger has a top 4 team, not a title challenger and that lies the problem
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We'll definitely need a keeper, Valdes could cost us top 4 never mind the title.
I agree, valdes has our no1 is just not an option
Yeah we do definately need a keeper, I got a fair bit of hate when I said valdes was terrible keeper but the fact is he is, nice to see a few others agree having him as number 1 would be utter suicide. I didn't put keeper down though Iive got a terrible feeling the club will make valdes will be number 1 next year.
Valdes is a quality keeper and he could conceivably adapt to the PL. Problem is, actually depending on him to do so straight after a serious injury is a very big risk. I think we'd all be a lot happier with more security in that position.
Valdes never rated him, dodgy and prone to mistakes. Barca were so insanely good they could mask his deficiency's, he is playing with a very inferior team to that Barca team, and having him play week in week out is not something that should go through the clubs head. Having Valdes valencia smalling rojo and blind has a back 5 with an ageing anchor man in carrick, and an ageing forward in rooney becomes a problem, when our spine is 34, 33 and 29. Now VG has made mistakes, naming valdes no1 will be a disaster. Rack up the games Valdes and lindegaard have played together last season? its 2, and we going to rely on those 2 next season? talk about giving us a disadvantage next season if our keeper is valdes at 33, and he aint no VDS who aged like a fine wine
Depay + CB, RB, DM, CF/WF.
Bonus:
GK (if DDG leaves), CM
Depay, Otamendi, Coleman, Schneiderlin, Lacazette
Schweinsteiger, Lloris
On a side note, Valdes recovering from his injury & adapting to a new, physically daunting league at the age of 33 is a concern for me, especially as he, like DDG when he first arrived, isn't too comfortable under the high ball...
But there's some immense under rating of the guy in this thread. It's mental. Some of you lot make him sound like a Sunday league keeper in all honesty, which is a bit OTT.
Bonus:
GK (if DDG leaves), CM
Depay, Otamendi, Coleman, Schneiderlin, Lacazette
Schweinsteiger, Lloris
On a side note, Valdes recovering from his injury & adapting to a new, physically daunting league at the age of 33 is a concern for me, especially as he, like DDG when he first arrived, isn't too comfortable under the high ball...
But there's some immense under rating of the guy in this thread. It's mental. Some of you lot make him sound like a Sunday league keeper in all honesty, which is a bit OTT.
We still have to improve just to improve that. People don't seem to account that every other team is/will be adding to their squad. Liverpool are in a strong position for example already. They have strengthened their squad considerably and don't have to take into account the CL. They'll be much closer to us than last year. Arsenal have also improve vastly just with Cech alone.
We can't go and buy 8 players. But we do need to buy urgently in certain positions.
What's actually stopping us from buying 8 players sorry?
We need to improve our team with new additions. The lack of movement seems to be making people a bit complacent with our current options: last year's team add Depay and probably minus De Gea.
We need to improve our team with new additions. The lack of movement seems to be making people a bit complacent with our current options: last year's team add Depay and probably minus De Gea.
still waiting for us to get linked to lacazette...
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