Manchester United Summer Transfer Window 2015: What do we still need?

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DWelbz19 said:
We won't have six new starting players. Memphis and Herrera will be starters too.
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yeah realitically 4 starters (RB, CB, CM and Winger, maybe we have the winger in Depay) and perhaps GK depending on the obvious situation...
 
Just shows up how poorly the football side of the club is run, we have spent about 200 million over 2 years and still need about 4-5 new starters. I wish we would go to the director of football model and build properly for the future rather than just splashing money around as we like.
 
Ayush_reddevil said:
Just shows up how poorly the football side of the club is run, we have spent about 200 million over 2 years and still need about 4-5 new starters. I wish we would go to the director of football model and build properly for the future rather than just splashing money around as we like.
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I think it is more to do with underspending or spending on atricious players that we are having to go crazy now. The transfer decisions from around 2009 have been rotten.
 
Ayush_reddevil said:
Just shows up how poorly the football side of the club is run, we have spent about 200 million over 2 years and still need about 4-5 new starters. I wish we would go to the director of football model and build properly for the future rather than just splashing money around as we like.
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We lost the core of our team over the last 5 years and we replaced them with far inferior players and in some cases got no replacements at all. What do you expect?
 
New GK/Valdes

Carvajal Smalling Laporte Shaw

Carrick

Herrera Gundogan

Bale Rooney Memphis​

I'd like to see that, whether it's realistic or not. Doubt we'd get Carvajal and Bale from Madrid - so ideally, we'd get the latter and use De Gea to cut away at the price. Laporte or Hummels or Otamendi would also be delicious.

Think the most likely player we'd sign from that team is Gundogan.
Keeper wise, I'd like to see a young up-and-coming player if we were to sign someone. Leno for example.
 
1. De Gea Replacement (Cech/Begovic/Lloris)
2. Experienced Central Defender (Hummels)
3. Defensive Midfielder (Schneiderlin)
Optional
4. Right Back (Clyne)
5. Central Midfielder (No attacking midfielders who cant tackle)
6. Right sided Winger Forward
7. Striker

Schneiderlin would be my dream signing as i believe that position is the one which will bring balance to our team next season with Depay, Rooney and DiMaria in the front 3. Without Fellaini, our team is too weak. Fellaini is good only in the attacking midfielder position in a 3 man midfield. If we want to move forward by playing attacking player like Mata instead of Fellaini in the attacking midfielder position, we need to have a balance of good defensive player like Schneiderlin in the middle.

Also if Bale is available for English clubs, we shouldnt miss the chance.
 
Kill 'em all said:
We lost the core of our team over the last 5 years and we replaced them with far inferior players and in some cases got no replacements at all. What do you expect?
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I understand that but my bigger issue is with the way we spent the money, our financial side is run in a very efficient manner which should be the case for a top club but our football dealings are really haphazard and make very little sense at all. Obviously football is unpredictable and you can't be 100% right with decisions but I am still struggling to see why half the players were bought in last season. You either have a head coach situation where his role is more about tactics and system or you have a SAF like system, right now we seem to be somewhere in between.
 
Ayush_reddevil said:
Just shows up how poorly the football side of the club is run, we have spent about 200 million over 2 years and still need about 4-5 new starters. I wish we would go to the director of football model and build properly for the future rather than just splashing money around as we like.
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Name one club in the Premier League where a director of football has worked? It's not all it's cracked up to be. Proved to be more a disaster than anything. See the scouse, Chelsea (towards the end of Mourinho's first spell in charge) Newcastle and Spurs.
 
Acole9 said:
Name one club in the Premier League where a director of football has worked? It's not all it's cracked up to be. Proved to be more a disaster than anything. See the scouse, Chelsea (towards the end of Mourinho's first spell in charge) Newcastle and Spurs.
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Well Emenalo has done a great job at Chelsea, I think the Barca gang have had good success at City as well. Again if United want to continue with the idea of the manager being everything then serious questions need to be raised about the players who were bought last summer and who was responsible for those players. In the last 2 years we have bought Fellaini, Mata, Shaw, Blind, Rojo, ADM, Depay and Herrera (not counting Falcao here) , all these players were bought for high prices and yet I am not really sure going into next season how many of these guys are starters
 
Hernandez - BFA said:
New GK/Valdes

Carvajal Smalling Laporte Shaw

Carrick

Herrera Gundogan

Bale Rooney Memphis​

I'd like to see that, whether it's realistic or not. Doubt we'd get Carvajal and Bale from Madrid - so ideally, we'd get the latter and use De Gea to cut away at the price. Laporte or Hummels or Otamendi would also be delicious.

Think the most likely player we'd sign from that team is Gundogan.
Keeper wise, I'd like to see a young up-and-coming player if we were to sign someone. Leno for example.
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It would be a very good team but we will still be one Michael Carrick injury away from disaster. We will never move forward if continue to be this reliant on him.
 
DWelbz19 said:
I guess so, but we still won't sign that many 'first team players' then. ;)
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Depay will be fighting it out with Young. This idea he's an auto starter reminds me of the Zaha expectations. Depay is still raw and he'll be rotated in and out I guarantee it.
 
He's far, far, far further in progression than Zaha. It's a lazy comparison.
 
redsunited said:
1. De Gea Replacement (Cech/Begovic/Lloris)
2. Experienced Central Defender (Hummels)
3. Defensive Midfielder (Schneiderlin)
Optional
4. Right Back (Clyne)
5. Central Midfielder (No attacking midfielders who cant tackle)
6. Right sided Winger Forward
7. Striker

Schneiderlin would be my dream signing as i believe that position is the one which will bring balance to our team next season with Depay, Rooney and DiMaria in the front 3. Without Fellaini, our team is too weak. Fellaini is good only in the attacking midfielder position in a 3 man midfield. If we want to move forward by playing attacking player like Mata instead of Fellaini in the attacking midfielder position, we need to have a balance of good defensive player like Schneiderlin in the middle.

Also if Bale is available for English clubs, we shouldnt miss the chance.
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Still amazes me that folk still think we've replaced Rio & Vida.. "One new CB will do, to make us great in central defence again.."
 
Red Hand Devil said:
Still amazes me that folk still think we've replaced Rio & Vida.. "One new CB will do, to make us great in central defence again.."
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We need to stick with Smalling/Jones/Rojo making the second spot their own? Otherwise why the feck did we bring them in and develop them all this time (in the process dropping points) to then scrap them when at least one of them is showing the promise to make it.....
 
golden_blunder said:
Some of you get do hung up on the money aspect you'd swear it's coming out of your own pocket
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You're wasting your time alerting folk to that fact man - there's far too many accountants working for Mike Ashley on here.

The fecked up thing is - the Glazers want to spunk a shitload (since Fergie & Gill left) & many of our fans dont want them too :wenger:
 
Red Hand Devil said:
You're wasting your time alerting folk to that fact man - there's far too many accountants working for Mike Ashley on here.

The fecked up thing is - the Glazers want to spunk a shitload (since Fergie & Gill left) & many of our fans dont want them too :wenger:
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We've spent a lot of money on the wrong players or players that didn't work out. That's what most find annoying, rightly so.
 
Current Squad.

- VALDÉS, Victor
- DE GEA, David
- LINDEGAARD, Anders
- BLIND, Daley
- ROJO, Marcos
- SHAW, Luke
- CARRICK, Michael
- EVANS, Jonny
- SMALLING, Chris
- JONES, Phil
- MCNAIR, Patrick
- RAFAEL, Da Silva
- VALENCIA, Antonio
- YOUNG, Ashley
- FELLAINI, Marouane
- DI MARÍA, Ángel
- ROONEY, Wayne
- HERRERA, Ander
- MATA, Juan
- JANUZAJ, Adnan
- PEREIRA, Andreas
- POWELL, Nick
- WILSON, James
- VAN PERSIE, Robin
-FALCAO, Radamel

Out of those I would sell/release

-Lindegaard
-Evans
-Rojo
-Valencia
-Young
-Fellaini
-Mata
-Powell
-RVP
-Falcao
-Nani

Send on Loan

-Januzaj
-Wilson
-Pereira
-Mcnair
-Blackett

Buy

De Gea's replacement if he leaves.
De Sciglio
Hummels
Laporte
Pogba
Geis
Imbula
Fekir
Felipe Anderson

Leaving us with.

GoalKeepers
-Valdes
-De Gea(Replacement)
-Youngster

Left Back
-Shaw
-De Sciglio
-Blind

Right Back

-De Sciglio
-Rafael
-Jones

Center Back
-Hummels
-Laporte
-Smalling
-Jones

Centremid
-Carrick
-Herrera
-Blind
-Di Maria
-Imbula
-Geis
-Pogba


Wingers
-Depay
-Di Maria
-Fekir
-Felipe Anderson

Strikers
-Rooney
-Fekir
-Anderson
 
Quiter harsh on Rojo, Fellaini and Mata, don't you think @MJJ ? I like the players you want to sign apart from de Sciglio. Surely you don't want us to do this in one summer?
 
bucky said:
Quiter harsh on Rojo, Fellaini and Mata, don't you think @MJJ ? I like the players you want to sign apart from de Sciglio. Surely you don't want us to do this in one summer?
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It is ruthless but thats what we need to be right now. If we sell fellaini in the summer, we will get good money for him rather than letting him sit on the bench for a whole season and then selling him for peanuts. If we sign two WC CB as we need to, then one of jones or rojo must go. I see more potential in jones, plus he is english. I dont believe mata as a false winger will be a success long term so best to sell him now as well or we can leave one of fekir/felipe anderson(dribbling RW who can play as striker with WC potential) till next season and keep mata.

I picked de sciglio as he can play both rb and lb. We need a player like that with rafael injury concerns.

Why not? Our first eleven wont change by much. It will be:-

--------------Rooney---------
-Depay----------------Mata/F.Anderson--
----------Pogba-Herrera------
-------------Carrick---------
-Shaw-Hummels-Laporte/Smalling-Rafael/De Scilgio.

Thats three to five changes at first team level which isnt really a lot and will propel our squad to real madrid/barca level in a few seasons when depay, anderson, fekir, geis, imbula, shaw, laporte are 23-24.
 
RedorDead21 said:
We need to stick with Smalling/Jones/Rojo making the second spot their own? Otherwise why the feck did we bring them in and develop them all this time (in the process dropping points) to then scrap them when at least one of them is showing the promise to make it.....
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I like Rojo alot - proper CB warrior, pretty good on the ball & is only just gettin started. We'll see next season if he's stepped up to our level. High hopes for him though.

Jones & Smalling have been injury-prone since the day the signed & have never looked United class either. Why stick with / trust, something that has never looked like working since they signed in 2010 (Smalling) & 2011 (Jones).

Smalling has improved greatly the last few months of this season, but is he gonna stay fit & will he improve to the level he needs to be at?

Got sent off at City for 2 yellows. One was to block the ball being kicked in City's half - then minutes later scything down a city forward when all he had to do was hold him in the corner area. We were dominating the game at the time too & its been the typical stupid decision-makin process Smalling has operated with. Will that ever change? Question marks again!

Jones - mindless & doesnt look like HE feels he belongs here. I agree with him if thats the case. But hang onto to him anyway.

Evans should be gone - completely useless. High hopes for him in the past - not anymore after seasons of gone. Fergie said he had no doubts that Evans will be our 1st choice CB for years to come. He got that wrong, so why should LvG trust his opinion on Jones & Smalling either?!

McNair is not a CB. Far too powder-puff, scared to get stuck in & is only in the team from time to time, because he runs the ball out of defence. He's an RB at best, but its too early to see if he's United class at that either.

Just because you invest so much time in a player(s), doesnt mean its gonna work out. All we needed was Rio & Vida being there & have back ups. Those back-ups are our 1st choice now & they aint no Rio & Vida, or a Brucie & Pally for that matter either..

Sign 2 top class CB's & let Rojo, Smalling & Jones compete with them for a starting berth. Simple as that!
 
Red Hand Devil said:
Smalling has improved greatly the last few months of this season, but is he gonna stay fit & will he improve to the level he needs to be at?

Got sent off at City for 2 yellows. One was to block the ball being kicked in City's half - then minutes later scything down a city forward when all he had to do was hold him in the corner area. We were dominating the game at the time too & its been the typical stupid decision-makin process Smalling has operated with. Will that ever change? Question marks again!
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That was what, November? Since then he's been consistently one of our best players, and by some distance our best defender.
 
Think we will get rid of
Rafael
RVP
Evans
Nani
Lindegaard

Keep Falcao

I think we will get the following as starters

Bale
Hummels
A DM
Clyne
Keeper if Dave leaves

---------------GK
CLYNE---HUMMELS---ROJO---SHAW
-----------DM----Herrera-------------
DEPAY-------BALE---------DI MARIA
-------------ROONEY------------------

Front 4 interchanging

Midfield pairing changing depending on opposition

send out januzaj, Blackett and maybe McNair on loan

Leaves the following As back up

Mata
Wilson
Young
Falcao
Fellaini
Valencia
Smalling
Jones
Blind
Carrick
 
Each transfer isn't considered in isolation but in the context of overall spend and home grown players/balance. So the list/options would look something like this:

Kane
Carvajal
Gundogan
Hummels/laporte

Or

Ings
Alves
Pogba
Hummels/laporte

Or

Ronaldo
Clyne
Schneiderlin
Hummels/laporte

Or

Bale
Ings
Clyne
Milner
Hummels/laporte
 
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http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...f-signing-players-in-the-transfer-market.aspx

Ahead of the summer transfer window, Louis van Gaal has provided a rare insight into how new players are signed by Manchester United.

The Reds acquired Ander Herrera, Luke Shaw, Marcos Rojo, Angel Di Maria, Daley Blind and Radamel Falcao (on loan) in last summer's market, before snapping up former Barcelona goalkeeper Victor Valdes on a free transfer in January.

This year's activity kicked off with a deal for PSV winger Memphis Depay, pending the completion of a medical. Speaking to the Sunday newspapers, van Gaal explained how the recruitment process works.

“I look for the players who fit our profile. Then I say to Ed [Woodward, executive vice-chairman], 'I want that player first and that player second [choice]'. Then we go to the third when they [first and second] are not available. I am not buying, I don't spend the money. He is negotiating, I am not."

When asked if the size of a transfer fee affects his judgement on which players to buy, the boss replied: “It's dependable on a lot of questions. In my opinion, the first question is does the player fit the profile of the position that we want? That is the most important thing.

"Then the club shall negotiate, and then it [the fee] is out of my hands because I am not negotiating. Ed Woodward is doing that, I'm not the man who decides that.

“Of course, when you buy players for £80million, the pressure is unbelievably high and it's not easy for the player either. But the most important thing is can he perform in the way we want him to?"

Van Gaal revealed he will leave for his summer holiday the day after United’s final match of the season against Hull City next Sunday, but he dismissed suggestions he might be weary after his first season as a manager in England.

“Yes, I go immediately, on Monday 25th," he confirmed. "I haven't found it tiring - we haven't had so many matches because we didn't participate in the Champions League or Europa League. In all my former clubs I had always participation in the Europa League or Champions League so it was more intensive before.

“But because of the new situation, I have had to adapt as a manager. Not only the new players, but also the manager has to adapt to the culture of England and to the rhythm of this game. That's exciting but also very difficult because I have to adapt my philosophy. No-one is asking for that, but it's true.”
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Puts a lot of pressure back on Ed Woodward after his speech about competing on all fronts when announcing United's financial results. :)
 
Interesting comments about an 80m signing brings a lot of pressure.

I wonder if he is referring to Bale, or maybe he is talking about Di Maria, and was meaning 80m in Euros (Don't know what the exchange rate was last year)
 
GK: Lloris - Cech
RB: Carvajal - Clyne
CB: Hummels, Varane
CM1: Pogba, Veratti, Gundogan, Schneiderlin
CM2: Kondogbia, Wanyama, Carvalho
RW: Bale
ST: ??, Ings

- I don't think Carvajal, Varane and Veratti will be avaliable, but if they are, they excellent in their positions

Out: De Gea, Rafael, Evans, Nani, Hernandez, Lindegaard, RVP, Falcao
Loan; Januzaj, Wilson, Peireira

433: A strong DM in Wanyama would give Di Maria a more free role to express himself, and get the best out of him. Rooney spearheading the attack is a potential problem, but he can always drop deeper and bring in Bale and Depay from the wings
Lloris
Clyne - Smalling - Hummels - Shaw
Wanyama
Herrera - Di Maria
Bale - Rooney - Depay
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4141: What we are playing now. It has Fellaini to support attacks and offer aerial ability in the box for the wingers to target. Carrick can dictate play from a deep role
Valdes
Valencia - Jones - Rojo - Blind
Carrick
Mata - Gundogan - Fellaini - Young
Rooney​
 
Wanyama, really?!

We're not supposed to sign players of similar quality to what we have, we should aim higher than that!
 
Jacob said:
Wanyama, really?!

We're not supposed to sign players of similar quality to what we have, we should aim higher than that!
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I just consider him a very good defensive midfielder who has premier league experience and is very good at breaking up play.
In that formation, it gives Herrera and definitely Di Maria a lot more freedom to do what they are best at.
He clearly lacks creative skills obviously, but thats not how I would deploy him. Yes I'd rather have a Makelele or Essien in their prime, but I cannot think of any that are avaliable
 
Igor Drefljak said:
I just consider him a very good defensive midfielder who has premier league experience and is very good at breaking up play.
In that formation, it gives Herrera and definitely Di Maria a lot more freedom to do what they are best at.
He clearly lacks creative skills obviously, but thats not how I would deploy him. Yes I'd rather have a Makelele or Essien in their prime, but I cannot think of any that are avaliable
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Well I agree that I can't think of many world class and attainable CDMs, but then again, you never know for sure who is available and not. Bender would be a better choice than Wanyama for example, as would Khedira. Both of which feels like they are on the move.
 
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