Well I agree that I can't think of many world class and attainable CDMs, but then again, you never know for sure who is available and not. Bender would be a better choice than Wanyama for example, as would Khedira. Both of which feels like they are on the move.
I do like Khedira, but it seems he wants to go back to Germany. On a free, I'd absolutely go for him. The Bender brothers, I've heard a bit about them, but never really seen them play, thats why I haven't mentioned them. Obviously there could be better out there, and if there is, great, I can only list what I know
I know, the only one in the side from this season is Luke Shaw who cannot keep fit, if we bought that lot they might have all settled in after a couple more seasons. We cannot buy all the players being named. I am sure Wayne will be chuffed as hell being on the bench.
Each transfer isn't considered in isolation but in the context of overall spend and home grown players/balance. So the list/options would look something like this:
If we look at the starting 11 that played against arsenal
DDG
valencia
smalling
jones
rojo
blind
herrera
mata
fellaini
young
falcao
If VG does not really trust Di Maria, and he is playing young instead, another winger is needed, because do we really want to go into next season playing an average 30 year old winger in a 433 in ashley young? he is not going to scare many european teams next season, and in the PL he does also get found out against certain PL teams where we need the points, and especially in a 433 we need a potent 3 man attack. Allot of players, that is the price we still paying for the way the squad was handled since 2009
But out of that 11, we need a top class GK if DDG is off, valdes not good enough, we need a new RB, we need a top class CB or even 2 because smalling jones rojo still not convinced with any of them, fellaini and mata need replacing with 2 top class CM players, and a better striker which rooney will take that place, but in a perfect world someone could do better than rooney, let alone the ageing RVP and Falcao. If VG wants to play 433, our current set of players reads like this
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??--- smalling-??-------shaw/blind
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------herrera--??-----------
depay------??
------------rooney---------
There is allot of holes in that starting 11 which is why there are the question marks, and DDG looks to have made his mind up. But like I say, mata fellaini and young have done well, but we can do much better especially young and fellani, atleast with mata he has that united quality player at times, fellaini and young are squad players who add depth, not the players we should rely on has a starting 11, especially next season we need to raise the bar in our own starting 11. And if VG is looking to win the title, we cannot be playing young and fellaini every week, has they get found out against certain teams, and points get dropped, and that is why we fall short in the title race, and barely scrapping 4th place
I think the best way forward, if we're going to use the players already at our disposal (Memphis included), is to go for a 4-3-3 with a deep forward. Let's look at the squad we have...
Color-coding:
Black: Very likely to stay. No rumours suggesting otherwise. Red: Not in Van Gaal's plans, likely to leave. Orange: Uncertain future. LvG would prefer to keep. Green: Youngsters. Loan moves likely.
Out of the red players, I would prefer to keep Nani personally. He's been decent for Sporting and seems to have regained a bit of his old mojo. He also plays in a position where we're in need of extra bodies. Di Maria has the potential to be world class there once he finds his form, but his future is uncertain. Mata isn't a right winger at all and is a bit of a mis-match as far as the squad goes. I can't realistically see us fitting him into his strongest position behind the striker, so he's being shoehorned in as a winger right now. In other words, right wing is a problem area. The problem with Nani is that he's a risk-taking winger who will try something spectacular or difficult which will often result in conceding possession. That's not the sort of player Van Gaal wants in his side, unless it's a really good player, which Nani hasn't been for a while. The other red players won't be missed. In total, they have played very little for us this season, mostly due to everyone bar Rafael and Evans being on loan. Evans should be hitting the best form of his career, but seems to be regressing rapidly and Rafael somehow can't recover from one injury before injuring a completely different body part. He broke his face this season. Who does that?
Of the orange players, I'd prefer to keep all of them, and De Gea in particular, but he is looking more and more like a lost cause every day. The other two have been underperforming this season and are taking up a relatively large chunk of our wage budget, but at least in Di Maria's case, it's likely that we'll see much better perfomances from him next year. Van Persie can also do a job as long as we compensate for his limitations in other areas of the pitch, which is what I've been trying to do.
The green players could all benefit from loans. I can easily see Pereira and/or Januzaj going to PSV as part of the Memphis deal, while Blackett definitely needs a season in the Championship or the reserves before he can provide reliable cover for us. Wilson would probably benefit from a season at a lower-placed PL team, but we need backup strikers and right wingers, and Wilson can do both, so it's a judgment call.
Then there's the players in black. Our central defenders are severely injury-ridden. Smalling has taken on the role as leader to a degree this season, but I feel like the defence would benefit from having a player who can provide the consistency and leadership that all great defences are founded on. We're lacking a bit of both at the moment. Valencia is a trusty worker at right back, but lacks the quality you want when challenging for the title. Our left back has looked solid with Blind and Shaw. Some injury problems there, but with Rojo as another option, as well as the odd stint from Young, this is covered quite well.
Our central midfield has two definite starters in Carrick and Herrera, while Fellaini has proven to be a good option when teams won't be broken down by pass-and-move football. Combined with Young's crosses he has bailed us out many times this season. A very valuable tool to have, but not necessarily one we want starting every game, due to his obvious limitations. Young has been one of the performers of the season, as well as the biggest surprise in the league. He'll get a lot of games even with Memphis coming in. I want to see Young take the right wing and pop in crosses without having to do the cutback routine he's been overdoing this season, while Memphis does his thing on the left. Di Maria will also be a decent option if he's still here next season. His pace and ability to carry the ball forward will work on either wing, as well as the midfield if he gets another go there.
Rooney is a definite starter no matter what. I prefer playing him upfront to wasting him in midfield. He hasn't got the quick feet and agility needed to work the midfield role, but his instincts will still see him rack up goals as a striker. Van Persie needs to get a bit of urgency back into his game. He's not as hard-working as Rooney, but makes up for it with his technique. Both lack pace, but both are big and strong and good at holding up play.
I want to see us play a formation like this next season:
Essentially a diamond/4-3-3 hybrid. Rooney acts as a deep forward, creating a diamond of sorts in midfield. Carrick controls the shape of the team and the tempo of the game while Herrera and Di Maria are responsible for carrying the ball forward and doing the leg work, both in possession and when pressing the other team. Rooney mostly plays with his back to the goal and pops up with the odd late run into the box. The wingers are responsible for the quick runs in behind the defence. Look at what Barcelona and Real Madrid are doing at the moment. They're main outlet for goals isn't the centre forward, but rather the wide players. We should be doing the same with the players at our disposal. Mata has been as dangerous as our strikers when it comes to scoring goals, and I'd be surprised Memphis doesn't at least notch up a few, given his record for PSV this season. I feel like Rooney and RVP will both be much more effective as target men with movement around them than as the main goal-scoring threat in the team. Give them the ball up the field and the central midfielders will be available and facing the goal, while the wingers will be making runs in behind. We already have the players to make it work decently. We just need a bit of cover in midfield and possibly a right winger with a tad more pace.
Mata's not a perfect fit for the system, but I have no idea what will happen with Di Maria and Nani. Both could make the right wing spot their own, but they haven't shown it as of late. Otherwise, there's not much doubt in where players fit in.
I want: Starting RB:
Danilo would have been perfect, but is off the market. Clyne seems the most likely. One of the best in the Premiership this season, young and English. Not many better available options this summer, if any. Alves has been mentioned and Carvajal is the outside shout.
Starting CB:
Fine, so Jones was hilarious yesterday and Rojo made some breath-taking last-ditch efforts, but you want someone who avoids that sort of thing altogether by being in the right place and keeping things under control. Ideally Hummels, if he could stay fit, given his ability on the ball. Godin or Otamendi are better defenders and less injury-prone, though.
Cover for Carrick:
Blind isn't it. Schneiderlin seems to be the Caf favourite and Strootman has the Van Gaal connection. Both would do, but Verratti is a future superstar holding mid for me. He's also an angry little dog with tons of tenacity and bite.
Right wing:
Two different types of players, but the movement and link-up play of Müller or the pace and power of Bale could both be devastating in the system. I've also been toying with the idea of Lacazette playing here. He's got the attributes, but is less proven.
Additional midfielder:
Herrera and Di Maria aren't enough. Di Maria isn't even a sure thing in midfield. Strootman, Schneiderlin and Verratti could all play here too when Carrick starts, but an extra player could be needed. Pogba is the dream. Powerful runs, skilled on the ball, dangerous shot and decent passing and defending. Would fit the role like a glove. Yaya's been taking the piss out of the PL for years and Pogba is his heir. Someone like Gundogan makes sense as a squad player/potential starter, while I have a bit of a boner for Koke and Kovacic too.
Goalkeeper:
Worst case scenario, we could be needing a new one. Cech should be available and we should do what we can. I'd prefer to get the sure thing rather than going for an unproven talent at this point. We can't really afford to add more insecurity at the back. That being said, I like Leno from Leverkusen. He's only 23, but he's the next big thing coming out of Germany in my eyes. Will be battling with Ter Stegen for the #1 spot in Die Mannschaft once Neuer loses his oomph.
Most likely:
Cech, Clyne, Hummels, Schneiderlin, Bale, Gundogan
If I could have anyone:
De Gea stays, Carvajal, Godin, Verratti, Müller, Pogba
I think the best way forward, if we're going to use the players already at our disposal (Memphis included), is to go for a 4-3-3 with a deep forward. Let's look at the squad we have...
Color-coding:
Black: Very likely to stay. No rumours suggesting otherwise. Red: Not in Van Gaal's plans, likely to leave. Orange: Uncertain future. LvG would prefer to keep. Green: Youngsters. Loan moves likely.
Out of the red players, I would prefer to keep Nani personally. He's been decent for Sporting and seems to have regained a bit of his old mojo. He also plays in a position where we're in need of extra bodies. Di Maria has the potential to be world class there once he finds his form, but his future is uncertain. Mata isn't a right winger at all and is a bit of a mis-match as far as the squad goes. I can't realistically see us fitting him into his strongest position behind the striker, so he's being shoehorned in as a winger right now. In other words, right wing is a problem area. The problem with Nani is that he's a risk-taking winger who will try something spectacular or difficult which will often result in conceding possession. That's not the sort of player Van Gaal wants in his side, unless it's a really good player, which Nani hasn't been for a while. The other red players won't be missed. In total, they have played very little for us this season, mostly due to everyone bar Rafael and Evans being on loan. Evans should be hitting the best form of his career, but seems to be regressing rapidly and Rafael somehow can't recover from one injury before injuring a completely different body part. He broke his face this season. Who does that?
Of the orange players, I'd prefer to keep all of them, and De Gea in particular, but he is looking more and more like a lost cause every day. The other two have been underperforming this season and are taking up a relatively large chunk of our wage budget, but at least in Di Maria's case, it's likely that we'll see much better perfomances from him next year. Van Persie can also do a job as long as we compensate for his limitations in other areas of the pitch, which is what I've been trying to do.
The green players could all benefit from loans. I can easily see Pereira and/or Januzaj going to PSV as part of the Memphis deal, while Blackett definitely needs a season in the Championship or the reserves before he can provide reliable cover for us. Wilson would probably benefit from a season at a lower-placed PL team, but we need backup strikers and right wingers, and Wilson can do both, so it's a judgment call.
Then there's the players in black. Our central defenders are severely injury-ridden. Smalling has taken on the role as leader to a degree this season, but I feel like the defence would benefit from having a player who can provide the consistency and leadership that all great defences are founded on. We're lacking a bit of both at the moment. Valencia is a trusty worker at right back, but lacks the quality you want when challenging for the title. Our left back has looked solid with Blind and Shaw. Some injury problems there, but with Rojo as another option, as well as the odd stint from Young, this is covered quite well.
Our central midfield has two definite starters in Carrick and Herrera, while Fellaini has proven to be a good option when teams won't be broken down by pass-and-move football. Combined with Young's crosses he has bailed us out many times this season. A very valuable tool to have, but not necessarily one we want starting every game, due to his obvious limitations. Young has been one of the performers of the season, as well as the biggest surprise in the league. He'll get a lot of games even with Memphis coming in. I want to see Young take the right wing and pop in crosses without having to do the cutback routine he's been overdoing this season, while Memphis does his thing on the left. Di Maria will also be a decent option if he's still here next season. His pace and ability to carry the ball forward will work on either wing, as well as the midfield if he gets another go there.
Rooney is a definite starter no matter what. I prefer playing him upfront to wasting him in midfield. He hasn't got the quick feet and agility needed to work the midfield role, but his instincts will still see him rack up goals as a striker. Van Persie needs to get a bit of urgency back into his game. He's not as hard-working as Rooney, but makes up for it with his technique. Both lack pace, but both are big and strong and good at holding up play.
I want to see us play a formation like this next season:
Essentially a diamond/4-3-3 hybrid. Rooney acts as a deep forward, creating a diamond of sorts in midfield. Carrick controls the shape of the team and the tempo of the game while Herrera and Di Maria are responsible for carrying the ball forward and doing the leg work, both in possession and when pressing the other team. Rooney mostly plays with his back to the goal and pops up with the odd late run into the box. The wingers are responsible for the quick runs in behind the defence. Look at what Barcelona and Real Madrid are doing at the moment. They're main outlet for goals isn't the centre forward, but rather the wide players. We should be doing the same with the players at our disposal. Mata has been as dangerous as our strikers when it comes to scoring goals, and I'd be surprised Memphis doesn't at least notch up a few, given his record for PSV this season. I feel like Rooney and RVP will both be much more effective as target men with movement around them than as the main goal-scoring threat in the team. Give them the ball up the field and the central midfielders will be available and facing the goal, while the wingers will be making runs in behind. We already have the players to make it work decently. We just need a bit of cover in midfield and possibly a right winger with a tad more pace.
Mata's not a perfect fit for the system, but I have no idea what will happen with Di Maria and Nani. Both could make the right wing spot their own, but they haven't shown it as of late. Otherwise, there's not much doubt in where players fit in.
I want: Starting RB:
Danilo would have been perfect, but is off the market. Clyne seems the most likely. One of the best in the Premiership this season, young and English. Not many better available options this summer, if any. Alves has been mentioned and Carvajal is the outside shout.
Starting CB:
Fine, so Jones was hilarious yesterday and Rojo made some breath-taking last-ditch efforts, but you want someone who avoids that sort of thing altogether by being in the right place and keeping things under control. Ideally Hummels, if he could stay fit, given his ability on the ball. Godin or Otamendi are better defenders and less injury-prone, though.
Cover for Carrick:
Blind isn't it. Schneiderlin seems to be the Caf favourite and Strootman has the Van Gaal connection. Both would do, but Verratti is a future superstar holding mid for me. He's also an angry little dog with tons of tenacity and bite.
Right wing:
Two different types of players, but the movement and link-up play of Müller or the pace and power of Bale could both be devastating in the system. I've also been toying with the idea of Lacazette playing here. He's got the attributes, but is less proven.
Additional midfielder:
Herrera and Di Maria aren't enough. Di Maria isn't even a sure thing in midfield. Strootman, Schneiderlin and Verratti could all play here too when Carrick starts, but an extra player could be needed. Pogba is the dream. Powerful runs, skilled on the ball, dangerous shot and decent passing and defending. Would fit the role like a glove. Yaya's been taking the piss out of the PL for years and Pogba is his heir. Someone like Gundogan makes sense as a squad player/potential starter, while I have a bit of a boner for Koke and Kovacic too.
Goalkeeper:
Worst case scenario, we could be needing a new one. Cech should be available and we should do what we can. I'd prefer to get the sure thing rather than going for an unproven talent at this point. We can't really afford to add more insecurity at the back. That being said, I like Leno from Leverkusen. He's only 23, but he's the next big thing coming out of Germany in my eyes. Will be battling with Ter Stegen for the #1 spot in Die Mannschaft once Neuer loses his oomph.
Most likely:
Cech, Clyne, Hummels, Schneiderlin, Bale, Gundogan
If I could have anyone:
De Gea stays, Carvajal, Godin, Verratti, Müller, Pogba
I think the best way forward, if we're going to use the players already at our disposal (Memphis included), is to go for a 4-3-3 with a deep forward. Let's look at the squad we have...
Color-coding:
Black: Very likely to stay. No rumours suggesting otherwise. Red: Not in Van Gaal's plans, likely to leave. Orange: Uncertain future. LvG would prefer to keep. Green: Youngsters. Loan moves likely.
Out of the red players, I would prefer to keep Nani personally. He's been decent for Sporting and seems to have regained a bit of his old mojo. He also plays in a position where we're in need of extra bodies. Di Maria has the potential to be world class there once he finds his form, but his future is uncertain. Mata isn't a right winger at all and is a bit of a mis-match as far as the squad goes. I can't realistically see us fitting him into his strongest position behind the striker, so he's being shoehorned in as a winger right now. In other words, right wing is a problem area. The problem with Nani is that he's a risk-taking winger who will try something spectacular or difficult which will often result in conceding possession. That's not the sort of player Van Gaal wants in his side, unless it's a really good player, which Nani hasn't been for a while. The other red players won't be missed. In total, they have played very little for us this season, mostly due to everyone bar Rafael and Evans being on loan. Evans should be hitting the best form of his career, but seems to be regressing rapidly and Rafael somehow can't recover from one injury before injuring a completely different body part. He broke his face this season. Who does that?
Of the orange players, I'd prefer to keep all of them, and De Gea in particular, but he is looking more and more like a lost cause every day. The other two have been underperforming this season and are taking up a relatively large chunk of our wage budget, but at least in Di Maria's case, it's likely that we'll see much better perfomances from him next year. Van Persie can also do a job as long as we compensate for his limitations in other areas of the pitch, which is what I've been trying to do.
The green players could all benefit from loans. I can easily see Pereira and/or Januzaj going to PSV as part of the Memphis deal, while Blackett definitely needs a season in the Championship or the reserves before he can provide reliable cover for us. Wilson would probably benefit from a season at a lower-placed PL team, but we need backup strikers and right wingers, and Wilson can do both, so it's a judgment call.
Then there's the players in black. Our central defenders are severely injury-ridden. Smalling has taken on the role as leader to a degree this season, but I feel like the defence would benefit from having a player who can provide the consistency and leadership that all great defences are founded on. We're lacking a bit of both at the moment. Valencia is a trusty worker at right back, but lacks the quality you want when challenging for the title. Our left back has looked solid with Blind and Shaw. Some injury problems there, but with Rojo as another option, as well as the odd stint from Young, this is covered quite well.
Our central midfield has two definite starters in Carrick and Herrera, while Fellaini has proven to be a good option when teams won't be broken down by pass-and-move football. Combined with Young's crosses he has bailed us out many times this season. A very valuable tool to have, but not necessarily one we want starting every game, due to his obvious limitations. Young has been one of the performers of the season, as well as the biggest surprise in the league. He'll get a lot of games even with Memphis coming in. I want to see Young take the right wing and pop in crosses without having to do the cutback routine he's been overdoing this season, while Memphis does his thing on the left. Di Maria will also be a decent option if he's still here next season. His pace and ability to carry the ball forward will work on either wing, as well as the midfield if he gets another go there.
Rooney is a definite starter no matter what. I prefer playing him upfront to wasting him in midfield. He hasn't got the quick feet and agility needed to work the midfield role, but his instincts will still see him rack up goals as a striker. Van Persie needs to get a bit of urgency back into his game. He's not as hard-working as Rooney, but makes up for it with his technique. Both lack pace, but both are big and strong and good at holding up play.
I want to see us play a formation like this next season:
Essentially a diamond/4-3-3 hybrid. Rooney acts as a deep forward, creating a diamond of sorts in midfield. Carrick controls the shape of the team and the tempo of the game while Herrera and Di Maria are responsible for carrying the ball forward and doing the leg work, both in possession and when pressing the other team. Rooney mostly plays with his back to the goal and pops up with the odd late run into the box. The wingers are responsible for the quick runs in behind the defence. Look at what Barcelona and Real Madrid are doing at the moment. They're main outlet for goals isn't the centre forward, but rather the wide players. We should be doing the same with the players at our disposal. Mata has been as dangerous as our strikers when it comes to scoring goals, and I'd be surprised Memphis doesn't at least notch up a few, given his record for PSV this season. I feel like Rooney and RVP will both be much more effective as target men with movement around them than as the main goal-scoring threat in the team. Give them the ball up the field and the central midfielders will be available and facing the goal, while the wingers will be making runs in behind. We already have the players to make it work decently. We just need a bit of cover in midfield and possibly a right winger with a tad more pace.
Mata's not a perfect fit for the system, but I have no idea what will happen with Di Maria and Nani. Both could make the right wing spot their own, but they haven't shown it as of late. Otherwise, there's not much doubt in where players fit in.
I want: Starting RB:
Danilo would have been perfect, but is off the market. Clyne seems the most likely. One of the best in the Premiership this season, young and English. Not many better available options this summer, if any. Alves has been mentioned and Carvajal is the outside shout.
Starting CB:
Fine, so Jones was hilarious yesterday and Rojo made some breath-taking last-ditch efforts, but you want someone who avoids that sort of thing altogether by being in the right place and keeping things under control. Ideally Hummels, if he could stay fit, given his ability on the ball. Godin or Otamendi are better defenders and less injury-prone, though.
Cover for Carrick:
Blind isn't it. Schneiderlin seems to be the Caf favourite and Strootman has the Van Gaal connection. Both would do, but Verratti is a future superstar holding mid for me. He's also an angry little dog with tons of tenacity and bite.
Right wing:
Two different types of players, but the movement and link-up play of Müller or the pace and power of Bale could both be devastating in the system. I've also been toying with the idea of Lacazette playing here. He's got the attributes, but is less proven.
Additional midfielder:
Herrera and Di Maria aren't enough. Di Maria isn't even a sure thing in midfield. Strootman, Schneiderlin and Verratti could all play here too when Carrick starts, but an extra player could be needed. Pogba is the dream. Powerful runs, skilled on the ball, dangerous shot and decent passing and defending. Would fit the role like a glove. Yaya's been taking the piss out of the PL for years and Pogba is his heir. Someone like Gundogan makes sense as a squad player/potential starter, while I have a bit of a boner for Koke and Kovacic too.
Goalkeeper:
Worst case scenario, we could be needing a new one. Cech should be available and we should do what we can. I'd prefer to get the sure thing rather than going for an unproven talent at this point. We can't really afford to add more insecurity at the back. That being said, I like Leno from Leverkusen. He's only 23, but he's the next big thing coming out of Germany in my eyes. Will be battling with Ter Stegen for the #1 spot in Die Mannschaft once Neuer loses his oomph.
Most likely:
Cech, Clyne, Hummels, Schneiderlin, Bale, Gundogan
If I could have anyone:
De Gea stays, Carvajal, Godin, Verratti, Müller, Pogba
It's a lot more potent than what we've currently got. The wingers would be cutting in, which gives you three players capable of scoring goals up front. Having one player who smashes in a tonne of goals every season isn't necessarily better than spreading the goals out across the front line.
If we estimate the goals coming from the team, I'd say this would be realistic, depending on how well the team functions and how far we get in the cups:
Rooney 15-20
RVP 10-15
Memphis 10-15
Young 1-5
Müller 15-20
Fellaini 5-10
Mata 5-10
Pogba 5-10
Herrera 5-10
Di Maria 5-10
CDMs 5-10
Defenders 1-5
That's 82-140 goals in total. Of course, some will score more and some will score less, but if we manage something in the middle of that estimation, it should see us putting up a good fight in all competitions.
Hopefully they keep Powell and just loan him out. We saw flashes when he was at Wigan and he's an arrogant bastard which I like. The goal he scored for United against Wigan was honestly class. He has that sort of ability.
I think we know regardless of what happens Rooney will start almost every game next season if fit, so with that in mind I think LvG will either opt for 2 new CM's or 1 CM and 1 striker as he has to keep that AM#10 role for Rooney if he buys a top striker.
Never mind the players picked, basically just an example of each choice.
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I think those players would cost about 220 million combined, at the minimum, so maybe just have Di Maria leaving for 40 to mitigate some of that.
I don't believe we have to solve every hole in the team this summer. The most important things are getting the absolute best right back we can (ideally young-ish too), most likely a De Gea replacement and then 1 central midfielder of some kind.
Those are the immediate holes. That leaves us like this, assuming everyone who is on loan and Rafael is sold, Falcao doesn't come back and the youngsters mostly stay as Van Gaal seems to prefer training in his methods than loans, and we'll hopefully have at least 10 more matches next year.
Let's plug in the most rumoured names in those 3 spots, which are probably Gundogan, Clyne and Lloris.
That's the bare minimum of improvement I think. Then we have to replace Van Persie and Carrick either this summer or in 2016. If Jones or Rojo don't make a leap then they need replacements too.
But yeah, I think we have 3 tiers of needs.
1st tier is an RB and De Gea replacement. There's just no reason to think Valencia or Valdes can be trusted in those roles, albeit for very different reasons.
2nd tier is a box to to box CM. Only reason this isn't first tier is that Di Maria (and Mata) could play as the most attacking CM in a 3.
3rd tier is the replacement for Carrick as a DM. There's only Blind in the pipeline unless
4th tier is replacing Van Persie as the 9 to compete with Rooney and getting a CB in (with Evans going). I do think RVP could be given another year (or Cheech returns) and during that year Wilson proves himself by scoring goals on loan for some counter-attacking side.is the CB need. While we do need one, Jones has played okay and Rojo isn't terrible. Lots of teams really only have 3 CBs, though our injury issues.
TLDR: If we "only" got Carvajal, one of Verrati/Pogba/Koke/Vidal/Kroos/Modric and one of Cech/Lloris/Leno or another very good keeper then it would be an excellent summer and we can always add another 2-3 players in 2016.
Jones for me is still not reliable when it comes to injuries. We can't go another season chopping and changing defenders. Quite frankly, whenever we did this most of the time in premier league seasons, we have not won the league. Our base should be a good CB pairing. Start from there and we are set.
I saw this on RAWK - posted from The Times webchat (apologies if already posted):
They're in for a very, very busy summer. Now that they've secured Champions League, they're tearing the house down and rebuilding it from the ground up. We've been told that there could be as many as 8 out and the same amount in. The expectation is a net spend upwards of £150m, although if Bale becomes available, they're happy to get him on top of that.
Van Gaal wants two players for each position, he's really looking for depth and balance in a squad which he intends will fight hard for four trophies next season...and that would be the expectation of the board too.
On a business level, Ed Woodward is very eager to bring in one or two of the biggest, and most marketable, names in Europe. Under Moyes, he pushed hard for Thiago, Kroos and Cavani - but Moyes was more inclined to move for players he'd personally scouted.
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Goalkeeper - Of course, they're set if De Gea stays. A few months ago, United were convinced he would, but things are very much up in the air now. It's a coin toss, really. Our information is that De Gea simply cannot make a decision. He's settled in Manchester, loves working for Van Gaal and has real affection for the club. On the other hand, Madrid is Madrid. They're hard to turn down for any player, and for De Gea it becomes harder when you consider his family and partner situation.
If he was to go, and for argument's sake I'm going to say 'tails, he's gone', they have real interest in Petr Cech; although they've received little encouragement from Chelsea to this point. If Chelsea refuse to do business with them - and they should - it's likely they'll move for Bernd Leno, Jan Oblak or Kevin Trapp - all of whom they scouted multiple times this season before signing Valdes.
Targets: Petr Cech, Bernd Leno, Jan Oblak, Kevin Trapp
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Defence - Evans and Rafael will leave.
Van Gaal loves Chris Smalling. His raw physical tools are unmatched, and he's been singled out for praise repeatedly. Concerns remain, though, over his ability on the ball. It's an issue that Van Gaal and his coaches have been working on daily. They believe, with progression, he could be one of the best in Europe. United will pair him with a ball playing centre back this summer. Hummels is more likely, although an ambitious move for Varane is preferred.
Varane's Madrid teammate is United's clear favourite right back option. Nathaniel Clyne was an early target, but Van Gaal quickly ruled him out after more detailed scouting.
Targets: Dani Carvajal, Mats Hummels or Raphael Varane.
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Midfield - Tom Cleverley will leave.
Andreas Periera is highly regarded, and will be a firm part of the first team squad next season. United's starting midfield is better than it's been in a long, long time - but very light in terms of depth. Van Gaal doesn't want a situation where Wayne Rooneh is shoehorned into midfield again next year. Carrick and Herrera are excellent, but if one of them are out it's a real struggle. United simply don't have a lot in reserve. Blind's a decent, versatile squad player but no more than that. His physical limitations will always hold him back. No team who regularly starts Daley Blind in midfield are going to be challenging for big trophies.
Which brings us to Paul Pogba. The undisputed number one target for Manchester United this summer. Privately, they're desperate to bring him back, and not at all concerned by the projected £60m fee. Pogba's agent has given them plenty of encouragement and it's a deal they're confident of securing.
A long-term replacement for Carrick - who Van Gaal recently said could play until he's 40, although perhaps moving to defence at some point - will also be bought. Kevin Strootman was first choice for this role, but interest in him has died completely due to the Dutchman's injury problems and United's reluctance to live through another Owen Hargreaves situation. Granit Xhaka is now the preferred candidate, with Geofferey Kondogbia - who's a more defensive minded player - also considered.
Targets: Paul Pogba, Granit Xhaka, Geofferey Kondogbia (central midfield)
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Forwards - Hernandez, Nani and Van Persie will leave. Falcao's option will not be taken. The highly rated James Wilson will be loaned out to a Premier League team.
Since October, Van Gaal has been privately describing the fluid, dynamic 4-3-3 formation that he intends for United in the long term. This year, he said, was a means to an end. Next year, he hopes, will see the realisation of his plan. Before United's home game against Burnley in February, Van Gaal delighted in outlining his vision - off the record - to a room filled with freezing writers. His vision was of a Manchester United team comprised of intelligent, fast, physical players who were adept in every facet of the game. Strikers putting in defensive shifts, centre backs breaking through the lines and becoming playmakers. Total Football 2015.
In keeping with this, the plodding pair of Van Persie and Falcao will be sacrificed for mobile, inventive forwards who can press high and create chances 1v1. The misfiring Di Maria will be given another chance to show what he's capable of, in a team and system that should be better suited to his attributes. Rooney's status as a Manchester United player is safe, although his position as a regular starter is far from secure. Van Gaal has been increasingly disappointed and dismissive in regards to Rooney's ability to influence a match and, crucially, to score goals. Interestingly, Van Gaal has recently been talking about his feeling that Juan Mata could be a potential revelation as a false 9.
Memphis Depay has already been signed. Gareth Bale is United's number one attacking target. They feel he'd shine in any of the 3 attacking roles. In a reversal of the De Gea situation, Bale's family are pushing hard for him to come back to Britain, and his agent - although bullish publicly - concedes it's likely he'll move this summer. United would have competition for his signature, but they've already put a lot of work in behind the scenes and would surely be in pole position if he were to become available. In addition to Bale, United will sign a striker to replace the departing Falcao and Van Persie. The profile they have, is for a player who's adept at dropping off and creating, as much as leading the line and scoring goals. Thomas Muller and Harry Kane are being considered, although United are wary of dealing with Spurs' Daniel Levy.
I think we know regardless of what happens Rooney will start almost every game next season if fit, so with that in mind I think LvG will either opt for 2 new CM's or 1 CM and 1 striker as he has to keep that AM#10 role for Rooney if he buys a top striker.
Never mind the players picked, basically just an example of each choice.
Oh yes I agree, depay will become a first 11 player, and herrera is already established has one of our key starting 11 players. So in a 433, we have 2 midfielders in herrera and depay who can easily get us 26 goals between them 2, in terms of the capability's of the 2. Its the DM, another CM to go alongside herrera, and probably another wide player if we can sign bale, and who ever is upfront.
Has it stands in midfield and attack, it looks like this
I say 4 positions probably need filling, a new anchor man, another CM to go alongside herrera to run the midfield, and another wide player if VG has not got much faith in di maria. I feel one more year for rooney, and next season a new striker will be required, but we probably need a new one this season, has a transitional season has we faze rooney out, for the new one. So it is 4 to 5 new slots that really do need filling. If VG and the club are serious they need to raise the bar in their starting 11, to really see us break free from the mediocre playing staff that we have endured since 2009, the standards in quality in our starting 11 needs to be raised, to see us become a major player in the major competitions
In my uninformed opinion Di Maria is off to PSG, and we won't buy Falcao. McNair, Blackett and Januzaj will go on loan. De Gea will leave his missus, decide to stay with us and pigs will fly over Salford. With that in mind; I'd like to see five players (after Memphis) come into the squad.
Paul Pogba
Morgan Schneiderlin
Nicolás Otamendi
Dani Carvajal
In the event that de Gea DOES leave us and the rumours about Coentrao being part of a swap are true, then I could see him fighting it out with Shaw and Carvajal for a full back spot. However, I'd only see him playing if there was a defensively minded winger in front of him. I have no idea who would replace de Gea so I've decided to put a brick wall in goal.
For me Pogba or someone else who has a decent amount of pace and can control the centre of the pitch is key.
I think that this squad would provide enough of a balance between possession and pace, plus give us enough cover during the long season. I doubt that we'd make so many changes this summer, though, and I'm certain that I'm completely wrong with all of this so I'd like to hear what other people think.
What do we need to be top again? In terms of players, we need to have 11 players better than the current Chelsea squad, and that’s a lot! With a “small” budget of 150M, we have to be clever and buy wisely. Take below team and try to compare each player between us and Chelsea and that’ll be the aim this summer.
Leavers: (Approx. 50M€. Not only the fees, but also wages)
De Gea – 25M (We can’t sell properly)
Rafael – 5M
Evans – 5M
Falcao (250K/w less)
Lindegaard – 2M
Chicharito – 8M
Nani – 10M
Januzaj – LOAN
Blackett – LOAN
Wilson – LOAN
Lingard - LOAN
Few explanation. I think that Louis Van Gaal will give the spot for Valdes, at least for next year. He’s paid 150k/w, so has a certain stature, experience and is with us since November, and knowing that Van Gaal loves him, why not… (even if I would prefer Cech personally)
Right back I’d go for Dani Alves, as I’m sure hat he will flourish in our possession team. Free (meaning that we can focus elsewhere). I loved the idea of Clyne, but he dropped a bit since January, and I’m afraid that S’ton is trying to keep him. (I don’t forget Carvajal also).
Then Smalling and Hummels. The first is developing and maturing, and the second, the obvious choice…. Well, if he was not so expensive, it would be great to partner Hummels and Otamendi… that would be an amazing partnership
Midfield, I think that we will stick with Carrick, simply because he’s our vice-captain, our most important player. I bet that we will have a replacement for him like De Jong, somebody in depth rather than a long term replacement (I love the idea of Gundogan playing like Kroos does at Madrid)
In midfield, I hope that Di Maria fulfill is potential and take a regular spot. (If he wants to leave, then sell him to PSG for 60M and buy Bale 80M)
Herrera is a definite starter for me (except the second season syndrome). I would go for Vidal instead of Fellaini. He will be an absolute beast in this system, and will give us more aggression with Ander in midfield, protecting Carrick and covering Di Maria… Right, Mata/Depay it will depend on the level of the later. And upfront, Rooney’s last season as a starter before monitoring Harry Kane’s progress
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I think those players would cost about 220 million combined, at the minimum, so maybe just have Di Maria leaving for 40 to mitigate some of that.
I'd rather we got rid of Mata, even though he's a much more likeable player than most in our squad. He doesn't really fit it and he's not good enough to warrant a change of the system.
If there's one player we could afford to lose that will bring in big bucks, it's him. Let Nani or Januzaj be the backup right winger instead.
What do we need to be top again? In terms of players, we need to have 11 players better than the current Chelsea squad, and that’s a lot! With a “small” budget of 150M, we have to be clever and buy wisely. Take below team and try to compare each player between us and Chelsea and that’ll be the aim this summer.
Leavers: (Approx. 50M€. Not only the fees, but also wages)
De Gea – 25M (We can’t sell properly)
Rafael – 5M
Evans – 5M
Falcao (250K/w less)
Lindegaard – 2M
Chicharito – 8M
Nani – 10M
Januzaj – LOAN
Blackett – LOAN
Wilson – LOAN
Lingard - LOAN
Few explanation. I think that Louis Van Gaal will give the spot for Valdes, at least for next year. He’s paid 150k/w, so has a certain stature, experience and is with us since November, and knowing that Van Gaal loves him, why not… (even if I would prefer Cech personally)
Right back I’d go for Dani Alves, as I’m sure hat he will flourish in our possession team. Free (meaning that we can focus elsewhere). I loved the idea of Clyne, but he dropped a bit since January, and I’m afraid that S’ton is trying to keep him. (I don’t forget Carvajal also).
Then Smalling and Hummels. The first is developing and maturing, and the second, the obvious choice…. Well, if he was not so expensive, it would be great to partner Hummels and Otamendi… that would be an amazing partnership
Midfield, I think that we will stick with Carrick, simply because he’s our vice-captain, our most important player. I bet that we will have a replacement for him like De Jong, somebody in depth rather than a long term replacement (I love the idea of Gundogan playing like Kroos does at Madrid)
In midfield, I hope that Di Maria fulfill is potential and take a regular spot. (If he wants to leave, then sell him to PSG for 60M and buy Bale 80M)
Herrera is a definite starter for me (except the second season syndrome). I would go for Vidal instead of Fellaini. He will be an absolute beast in this system, and will give us more aggression with Ander in midfield, protecting Carrick and covering Di Maria… Right, Mata/Depay it will depend on the level of the later. And upfront, Rooney’s last season as a starter before monitoring Harry Kane’s progress
Well I agree that I can't think of many world class and attainable CDMs, but then again, you never know for sure who is available and not. Bender would be a better choice than Wanyama for example, as would Khedira. Both of which feels like they are on the move.
2 years to go and coming off a decent year, so this summer represents the last chance to get real money for him (he'll be about to turn 31 with 1 year left on his deal after the 15/16 season, so nobody's spending more than 2-3 mil on him then), but I expect him to be the backup RB and Rafael to leave.