Woah then. We can easily call it 70m transfer then.
Scratch that, top 20 for Ballon D'Or (there is really such ranking?) should be doable. 80m.
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Woah then. We can easily call it 70m transfer then.
Scratch that, top 20 for Ballon D'Or (there is really such ranking?) should be doable. 80m.
Someone who is good at football analysis?
The thing is there is no proof that what we spent on him did or will prevent us from signing other players that we want. The money is not coming out of any of ours pockets, there is no Martial fund tax on tickets, merchandise etc. So at the end of the day all that will really matter is how he ends up playing for us, which we really won't have a complete answer to for several years and most likely his price tag is not going to affect that as he will either have the mentality to handle the pressure at United or he won't.
<p>But I have a feeling it will be like Berbatov where every mistake or bad game will be accompanied by endless talk about his price tag.
Nah open minds are for wusses. Expect years of Martial discussion where his price tag will get mentioned over and over and over regardless of how well he does or does not play for us. I also expect that a fair few have decided (positive or negative) about the lad and will stick to that position for years to come regardless of his actual performances.
We have had that with Rooney, Rio, Shaw so it is nothing new. We tend to do all right with the ones we spend big on that are young.
The comparison is more likely to be Martial vs. Depay. Two young potentials with a significant gap in the money paid for them. I hope we end up paying the full wack for Martial and Depay matches him every step of the way.
Did you just make that up? It's quite different from what was reported.
I am not too concerned about the fee, and what the pundits, journalists , and so called experts think about it, I am just pleased we did something, after the games this season, and especially Sunday it is clear we need a spark, not sure if this lad can provide it yet but at least we rolled the dice, he is clearly highly regarded, and has all the right attributes so we have a chance, and I'll take that.
Like I say the fee just isn't an issue for me, this summer we have a net spend of about £25 m (including Martial), and easily saved £20 million off the wages, we can afford to take a calculated risk on a top young talent, better that than have kept a a limited & grumpy Hernandez to compete with Rooney, whilst hoarding the cash reserves for the shareholders to admire.
Like I say the fee just isn't an issue for me, this summer we have a net spend of about £25 m (including Martial), and easily saved £20 million off the wages, we can afford to take a calculated risk on a top young talent, better that than have kept a a limited & grumpy Hernandez to compete with Rooney, whilst hoarding the cash reserves for the shareholders to admire.
RMC apparently, another person confirmed.
If true, those are easily accomplished add-ons for Martial. Monaco must be happy as heck.
It's from Daniel Riolo, in a talkshow on RMC.
If you understand french: http://rmcsport.bfmtv.com/mediaplay...eux-bonus-du-transfert-de-martial-621453.html
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No thanks. I know how to read. Try it out mate.
Can't believe you're all still talking about the fee. International Breaks are a real drag right.
Reading is a good start. Now try moving on to actually justifying your points. Let's start with why you're claiming he only costs £22m?
Yeah, you'd think paying £36m rising to £56m for a teenager the majority of people had never heard of would be the sort of thing that would be forgotten within a day or so.
Not sure why people keep making a comparison with Welbeck. Welbeck was a potentially good player but I never thought he could be a main stay in our team.
Martial from the little I've seen of him has fantastic technique for a teenager. And is very comfortable with both feet. Our scouts have obviously been following his progress at Monaco and people who follow French football have the opinion that he is potentially the best striker for the French NT.
Guilleme Ballague quoting the Valencia coach Nuno on Martial.
Martial from the little I've seen of him has fantastic technique for a teenager. And is very comfortable with both feet. Our scouts have obviously been following his progress at Monaco and people who follow French football have the opinion that he is potentially the best striker for the French NT.
Guilleme Ballague quoting the Valencia coach Nuno on Martial.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I just reported what RMC said yesterday night
I'm taking the huge claims about Martial's talent with a liberal helping of salt.
No, he did said games.
Thats what they have paid so far. Read the thread you lazy sod.
It's just boring mate it is honestly boring to read discussion on his fee. But I won't read this thread as that is inevitably going to be your response
You confirm that RMC said 25 GAMES but France Football are saying goals...
Really strange
Don't give a toss about the fee, whatever it may end up being
Utd have always been prepared to pay over the odds for a player they thought was worth it: we set a new world record for a defender in Rio, Rooney was at the time the most expensive teenager, then Shaw. Yes, Martial may not work out, there is no such thing as a guarantee in this business (re: Di Maria) but you got to gamble big to win big.
The club believes Martial may be the next big thing in a few years time, so we took a gamble and got him early before we had to go head to head with Real/Barca/Bayern, I am fine with that.
Statistically he is more likely to become the next Anderson than the next Ronaldo, but I wont write him off if dosnt perform well this season, or even next. Martial needs our support and our patience, personally I think this is the most exciting signing we made this window, and I love that we are still prepared to take these gambles
Utd have always been prepared to pay over the odds for a player they thought was worth it: we set a new world record for a defender in Rio, Rooney was at the time the most expensive teenager, then Shaw. Yes, Martial may not work out, there is no such thing as a guarantee in this business (re: Di Maria) but you got to gamble big to win big.
The club believes Martial may be the next big thing in a few years time, so we took a gamble and got him early before we had to go head to head with Real/Barca/Bayern, I am fine with that.
Statistically he is more likely to become the next Anderson than the next Ronaldo, but I wont write him off if dosnt perform well this season, or even next. Martial needs our support and our patience, personally I think this is the most exciting signing we made this window, and I love that we are still prepared to take these gambles
It's not RMC, it's "only" Riolo. He is normally clued up but I'm not sure who to believe.
I put the link on a previous post, you can check it again.
That scenario is just so bizarre that we could call it 80m transfer from the beginning as those add-ons are so easily achieved. Ok, maybe not Ballon d'Or, even top 20 should be hard.
What if we factor in wages? A youngster like Martial will be on no more than £3m a year whereas someone like van Persie or Falcao would have been around £10m a year. That's £7m over a year which over the next 3 years, when he will probably be up for renewal that will be much higher if he succeed here, will amount to £20m.
Weird, Julien Laurens' 'exclusive' clauses are different from those reported by Phillipe Auclair who is on the Guardian podcast this afternoon.
All the clauses appear different!
All the clauses appear different!
Yeah, 20m€ are almost guaranteed if he plays 25 games this season, he will go to the Euro and therefore probably make the 10 international games in 2016. So basically that is a 70m€ transfer.
But the thing is that we will never know the real clauses.
What were Phillipe's clauses?
So far, we had...
A - 5 for top goalscorer (x3 at most), 5 for Boy d'Orr, 10 for Ballon d'Or
B - 10 for 25 goals for United, 10 for 25 caps for France, 10 for Ballon d'Or
C - 10 for 25 appearances for United, 10 for 10 caps for France, 10 for top 20 in Ballon d'Or ranking
Are we still discussing the price? Let me know when you're done
If Martial plays and holds down the role of the #9, I can see the left side being a really productive attacking threat. He has a natural tendency to drift left, allowing Memphis and Rooney to attack the space that he vacates.
I don't think we would include €10m for 25 goals in total. It's definitely in one season.
A - somewhat reasonable
B - win/lose situation for us.
C - Monaco fecking scammed us.
LvG and Ed better know what they are doing.
I tend to agree. Otherwise it will make no sense whatsoever. If you buy a forward/striker for €50m you kinda expect him to hit more than 6 goals per season in the next 4 seasons.
Listening to Football Weekly and they're the clauses Philippe Auclair mentioned as well.
Alright smarty pants! But it isn't going to change the fact. I'm all for discussing the player but the fee is now irrelevant
That first one looks ridiculous. Of course he is going to play 25 times for United. It's obviously not true. If thats the case then it's safe to say the rest of the list probably is - mainly the top 20 in the Ballon D'or list.
I reckon its more feasible:
25 goals in one season in all competitons
10/25 france appearances
1st (maybe 2nd or 3rd) on Ballon D'or list
It'll be across seasons otherwise the club could if he was on 23 with a game to go sub him off at half time on 24 goals.
I've never heard of the kind of "in a season" clause you're suggesting, which isn't to say it couldn't be done but it would be bizarre
I'm excited to see how Martial progresses, not just as a United fan but a football fan also due to his billing as France's next big hope.
However, it is hard to look forward to it too much because Louis van Gaal will over complicate the whole thing and play him in a silly position that doesn't suit him. That is if he isn't dropped for Fellaini or Young all season.
However, it is hard to look forward to it too much because Louis van Gaal will over complicate the whole thing and play him in a silly position that doesn't suit him. That is if he isn't dropped for Fellaini or Young all season.
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