Manchester United Sign Anthony Martial!

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It is silly money to be fair. The three add-ons look ok to me, but the £36m basic is pretty crazy.

Still, happy to have him.

Yeah, it's bananas. I felt the same way when we spunked £30m on a teenage fullback. I still think that was excessive but am delighted to see how well Shaw is doing this season. Hopefully Martial isn't expected to make a more immediate impact. That would be be very unfair.
 
it would indeed be unfair, but sadly if he doesnt we are desperately short on attacking options

Well Van Gaal has come out already and said we need to be patient, so he's obviously realistic with his expectations. Hopefully the fans will be too.

In terms of attacking options we're obviously going with Rooney, Wilson, Fellaini and Martial as our main four strikers. So we do have options. Just not very proven ones.
 
Not sure if this has been posted/mentioned. I am extremely shocked if this is true. There are different stats and figures flying around and this one is definitely the most astonishing by far and it feels quite embarrassing for our club to pay so much for him.

However confident he is, it must be an extraordinary step up for him. And, to think that he's expected by LvG to solve our strikers problems! Really? Is it a joke?
Man United new boy Anthony Martial has only played eight full matches in his club career
http://m.101greatgoals.com/blog/man...played-eight-full-matches-in-his-club-career/

Why can it not just be even further indication that he is perhaps a one-off special talent. After all, he has also become a full-international after just 8 full games too, and France are not struggling.
 
22 at the moment Revan, you got a stiff neck mate?
Yes, if you buy a new laptop for 1200pounds but you make arrangements to pay 100pounds each month, it costs you only 100m. You'll probably go and say 'hey I bought an Alienware for 100 pounds. Bargain!'.

Get real Ramshock, no need to act stupid.

However you look at it, it is a transfer that will cost a minimum of 50m euros. Even if Martial never plays w=for us, we are obliged to pay those extra 20m euros to Monaco, and we have already payed 30m. So in current exchange rate that would be around 36m pounds, if the euro gets stronger, it will be slightly more.

The real question is how much the total transfer will cost, and it looks very likely that it will be around 70m euros (around 50m pounds), because it isn't that difficult to score 25 goals and make 25 appearances for France within 4 years.
 
So any transfer that's done is stages is worth only the first stage?

It'll actually only cost us 7.5m euros because in the accounting system the transfer will be amortized.

Only SEVEN POINT FIVE MILLION EUROS, peeps. ;)
 
Its 22 million up front and another 14 over 4 years. So as of right now its fecking 22 million.
That's 36 not 22.

City are paying the Otamendi money in two installments. That doesn't mean he cost 22.5.
 
That is reason enough to believe that the fee is excessive and we got robbed.

Whether it turns out stupid or not, only time will tell.

Another way to look at it; reason enough to believe that United scouts are better equipped to make that judgement then posters off 't Caf.
 
Yes, if you buy a new laptop for 1200pounds but you make arrangements to pay 100pounds each month, it costs you only 100m. You'll probably go and say 'hey I bought an Alienware for 100 pounds. Bargain!'.

Get real Ramshock, no need to act stupid.

However you look at it, it is a transfer that will cost a minimum of 50m euros. Even if Martial never plays w=for us, we are obliged to pay those extra 20m euros to Monaco, and we have already payed 30m. So in current exchange rate that would be around 36m euros, if the euro gets stronger, it will be slightly more.

The real question is how much the total transfer will cost, and it looks very likely that it will be around 70m euros (around 50m pounds), because it isn't that difficult to score 25 goals and make 25 appearances for France within 4 years.

Get real? He costs 22 Million pounds. In 4 years it will be 36 million pounds. But its not 4 years yet is it. So people are happy to quote 36 million or 56 million but no we cant quote the actual outlay so far.
 
80 million for a Danny Welbeck clone. I cannot believe what I'm reading.

Monaco have scammed us good and proper. Unbelievable stuff.
If 'tallish black quick' forward amounts to a 'Danny Welbeck clone' then Welbeck is a Thierry Henry clone.
 
Another way to look at it; reason enough to believe that United scouts are better equipped to make that judgement then posters off 't Caf.

I don't think anyone is making the judgement on the caf as no one has seen him enough to make one, Rams.

The debate is not on the players quality, which I hope is stellar, but the cost we paid for a largely unproven player. I don't know how can anyone say that we weren't made to pay double or triple his value due to the last minute nature of the deal. We got desperate and Monaco took advantage of us. I think it is pretty simple.
 
Get real? He costs 22 Million pounds. In 4 years it will be 36 million pounds. But its not 4 years yet is it. So people are happy to quote 36 million or 56 million but no we cant quote the actual outlay so far.
No, he cost 50m euros. We payed 30m now, and we'll pay 20m in the next 4 years regardless of what happens.

By your logic, Madrid got Modric for free from Spurs cause they didn't gave any money up front. We got Rooney for 10m or so, cause the majority of payments was done later. City got Otamendi for 20m cause too.

I guess when you play FM, you pay players in installments for 48months and claim that you can get any player for free.
 
I think this thread is an ideal example of all that is wrong with social media. Nowadays people just spout out endless loads of bullshit without actually having the slightest clue what they are on about.
 
Not sure if this has been posted/mentioned. I am extremely shocked if this is true. There are different stats and figures flying around and this one is definitely the most astonishing by far and it feels quite embarrassing for our club to pay so much for him.

However confident he is, it must be an extraordinary step up for him. And, to think that he's expected by LvG to solve our strikers problems! Really? Is it a joke?
Man United new boy Anthony Martial has only played eight full matches in his club career
http://m.101greatgoals.com/blog/man...played-eight-full-matches-in-his-club-career/

That's a fecking stupid stat. So no great surprise you swallowed it hook, line and sinker. He could start a game, play 89 minutes and get subbed off and that wouldn't count as a "full game"

He's started 32 games in his senior club career so far. Which is a decent number for a 19 year old.
 
I wish I was mate.

I think Danny Welbeck was just as good aged 19.
He played 5 Premier League games in 2009/10, the season he turned 19. The following season he scored 6 in 26 for Sunderland.

Martial has shown far more promise on the highest level at this stage than Welbeck then.
 
I bought a house worth one million dollars house yesterday. Paid 100 down and got the rest of amount on a 30 year mortgage.

I bought the house for $100,000. I am a genius!
 
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That's a fecking stupid stat. So no great surprise you swallowed it hook, line and sinker. He could start a game, play 89 minutes and get subbed off and that wouldn't count as a "full game"

He's started 32 games in his senior club career so far. Which is a decent number for a 19 year old.
Just to put this into perspective: Cristiano Ronaldo had played 31 competitive games in total for Sporting before we made him the most expensive teenager in the world.
 
I don't think anyone is making the judgement on the caf as no one has seen him enough to make one, Rams.

The debate is not on the players quality, which I hope is stellar, but the cost we paid for a largely unproven player. I don't know how can anyone say that we weren't made to pay double or triple his value due to the last minute nature of the deal. We got desperate and Monaco took advantage of us. I think it is pretty simple.

How is it possible to judge a transfer amount (the amount which is actually subject to a lot of speculation and most probably a lot of tabloid bullshit) without having properly watched the player in question? Real world is not like FM.
 
Where will he play? Will he displace Rooney or Mata/Herrera because there is no way LVG drops Memphis.
 
Just to put this into perspective: Cristiano Ronaldo had played 31 competitive games in total for Sporting before we made him the most expensive teenager in the world.

Didn't we sign Ronaldo for 12million? Brazilian Ronaldo and Cassano had both gone for more than that before 2003. Probably a few others that I can't remember as well.

Edit: Totally agree with the point you were making though. That article was complete nonsense.
 
:lol: This 22 million thing is really odd. If Madrid paid James' 70 million fee in two parts - 10 million upfront and 60 million one year later - he'd cost 10 million only?

Either way, I hope the fee-talk ends at some point. We've actually signed a striker you know?
 
No, he cost 50m euros. We payed 30m now, and we'll pay 20m in the next 4 years regardless of what happens.

By your logic, Madrid got Modric for free from Spurs cause they didn't gave any money up front. We got Rooney for 10m or so, cause the majority of payments was done later. City got Otamendi for 20m cause too.

I guess when you play FM, you pay players in installments for 48months and claim that you can get any player for free.

Again, if you read. Im not talking about the money Im talking about how these giant figures are being used to batter United over the head with. Pay attention.
 
How is it possible to judge a transfer amount (the amount which is actually subject to a lot of speculation and most probably a lot of tabloid bullshit) without having properly watched the player in question? Real world is not like FM.

You don't think we were made to pay an excessive amount due to us going in the last minute to make a deal? If no, then we don't have a debate, mate. It's your view and I don't agree with it.

I have never played football manager in my life.

Will leave this here:

Monaco vice-president Vadim Vasilyev says the Ligue 1 club turned down a succession of offers from Manchester United before agreeing to part with Anthony Martial for a fee of £57.6 million.

Martial, 19, signed for United earlier this week in a deal reported to be worth £36m up front.

French media reported that the transfer fee could eventually rise to €80m (£58m) when bonuses were included, which would make him the most expensive French player in history.

And Vasilyev appeared to confirm that information as he said the final price would be £57.6m when "very realistic" bonuses are taken into account.

"Initially Martial was not for sale, it was absolutely not planned," The Sunquoted Vasilyev as telling Russian paper Sport Express.

"Since last week United started to make offers which we declined several times -- £21.6m, £28.8m, £36m, even £50.4m with bonuses.

"On Sunday the player got such an offer that he couldn't have declined. He asked us to find a solution and on Monday morning Manchester United made an offer to Monaco which the club couldn't refuse.

"It's absolutely unique. It's the price of Luis Suarez or Neymar -- the best players in the world.

"Right now English football is on a different financial level and if Manchester United decides to buy somebody, it's very hard to stop them."

On Thursday French newspaper Le Parisien indicated the transfer included three bonus payments, each worth €10 million.

The first will be paid when Martial scores 25 goals in all competitions for United and the second will be triggered if he earns 25 caps for France between now and June 2019.

The third will come into effect should Martial win the Ballon d'Or as the world's best player between now and the end of his four-year contract at Old Trafford.

The paper also claims that Martial will receive a bonus of €1.15m every time that Manchester United qualify for the Champions League.
 
Again its not the money. Its the narrative being perpetuated and you lot arent exactly helping
Agree.

Let's talk about the player. He looks really exciting from the youtubes. Seems very skillful for a striker. He and Memphis should at the very least provide for plenty of entertainment. Seems a strong lad too. I saw the clip of his performance vs PSG. Tough game given his team was dominated but he handled himself well.
 
Didn't we sign Ronaldo for 12million? Brazilian Ronaldo and Cassano had both gone for more than that before 2003. Probably a few others that I can't remember as well.

Edit: Totally agree with the point you were making though. That article was complete nonsense.
You're right. Still, it was huge money at that time for an 18-year-old.
 
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