Manchester United - January transfer window 2015 (twitter blacklist applies)

buckooo1978 said:
I just think its silly to suggest our defence is anywhere as solid as Chelsea's for example....only Shaw would get start for them
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Our team is not as solid, our defence his mistake prone but most of the time pretty solid.
Our midfield is unbalanced and doesn't help the defense at all, and our Fullbacks/wingbacks are playing on an island, no one helps them.

We need a new centreback because ours are injury prone, and if we purchase one we should upgrade the position, but it's not a priority if we play a back four since, we have 6 CBs.
The fullback situation is more critical, i think.
 
Asger said:
I think our midfielder and attacking players are the problem. With all our attacking talents we doesn't create many chances like City and Chelsea. Its probably insane to have 3 strikers and Mata in the starting XI?
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Good man.

As counterintuitive as it seems, any business in January should be for a midfielder, not a defender. Our defenders are slowly, but surely, developing. It's true that De Gea has been our best "defender", but it can't be denied that our defenders are still young and have suffered repeated injuries this season.

Bringing in a defender right now wouldn't help much, unless it's a RB to take over for Rafael if Louis has given up on him. If at the of the season Louis has given up on Evans and Jones, then let's go for a central defender. But unless it's LaPorte (for the woeful Evans), let's forget about a central defender right now.

What would help more would be a central midfielder whose got the athleticism we're missing at times. Everyone knows about Carrick, but after that it's a bit of drop to Blind and then a steep drop to Fellaini. Rooney is not a midfielder.
 
Yep after pouring millions upon millions into our midfield it is still absolutely shocking. Blind I think will end up a good signing but Herrera, Mata and Fellaini, feck me that's £100million worth of midfielders that have hardly improved us since the Carrick-Cleverley midfield in Fergies last season. Not saying they're bad players because all three can play especially Mata, but it seems we have spunked money on the wrong players.

Blind can turn into our long term defensive midfielder easy, and can play there for 10+ years but we need a box to box energetic midfielder to play alongside him, I'd also want Di Maria playing in CM as well because he's world class when played there.

Can't believe we didn't move for Fabregas, Kroos or even Vidal in the summer, anyone of them would have improved us immensely and they are actually what we needed. I remember someone trying to tell me Kroos wasn't as Dynamic as Herrera, what a load of tosh that statement looks like now. (No I'm not saying Herrera is a bad player)
 
We also play Rooney out of position because he is the captain and maybe not better than Persie and Falcao? LVG has to stop playing Rooney in midfield and use him as striker or just on the bench.
 
SonnyTheHaloPro said:
Yep after pouring millions upon millions into our midfield it is still absolutely shocking. Blind I think will end up a good signing but Herrera, Mata and Fellaini, feck me that's £100million worth of midfielders that have hardly improved us since the Carrick-Cleverley midfield in Fergies last season. Not saying they're bad players because all three can play especially Mata, but it seems we have spunked money on the wrong players.

Blind can turn into our long term defensive midfielder easy, and can play there for 10+ years but we need a box to box energetic midfielder to play alongside him, I'd also want Di Maria playing in CM as well because he's world class when played there.

Can't believe we didn't move for Fabregas, Kroos or even Vidal in the summer, anyone of them would have improved us immensely and they are actually what we needed. I remember someone trying to tell me Kroos wasn't as Dynamic as Herrera, what a load of tosh that statement looks like now. (No I'm not saying Herrera is a bad player)
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You think Fabregas/Kroos would have chosen 7th place finishers United and no Champions League football for at least a year over Chelsea/Real Madrid, and that United also made no move for Vidal. Interesting.
 
SonnyTheHaloPro said:
Yep after pouring millions upon millions into our midfield it is still absolutely shocking. Blind I think will end up a good signing but Herrera, Mata and Fellaini, feck me that's £100million worth of midfielders that have hardly improved us since the Carrick-Cleverley midfield in Fergies last season. Not saying they're bad players because all three can play especially Mata, but it seems we have spunked money on the wrong players.

Blind can turn into our long term defensive midfielder easy, and can play there for 10+ years but we need a box to box energetic midfielder to play alongside him, I'd also want Di Maria playing in CM as well because he's world class when played there.

Can't believe we didn't move for Fabregas, Kroos or even Vidal in the summer, anyone of them would have improved us immensely and they are actually what we needed. I remember someone trying to tell me Kroos wasn't as Dynamic as Herrera, what a load of tosh that statement looks like now. (No I'm not saying Herrera is a bad player)
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Kroos isn't as dynamic as Herrera. He's obviously a better player but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to assess that Herrera is quicker around the field and expends more energy, traits that dictate dynamism. I'll repeat that Kroos is obviously the better player.

You have no real clue who we were vying for in the summer, probably because you weren't sat in the boardroom alongside Woodward and Van Gaal.

Our midfield options are good yet will likely continue to improve. I agree that our past purchases haven't been brilliant in the position but I think all of Blind, Herrera and Di Maria are great signings and the acquisition of both Fellaini and Mata ahead of other, more necessary alternatives cost Moyes his job. We're on the right track. It isn't "shocking" in the slightest, and if it were, we would have been dominated through the midfield on many occasions, something that has seldom happened this season. And as for now, I don't even think we're utilising anything near our best midfield, something that will hopefully change rather soon.
 
Asger said:
We also play Rooney out of position because he is the captain and maybe not better than Persie and Falcao? LVG has to stop playing Rooney in midfield and use him as striker or just on the bench.
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he played him there because he played well in that role and because we needed somebody to play in midfield due to Blind/Fellaini/Herrera being unavailable, and apart from De Gea, Rooney's pretty much been our best player this season.
 
Anderson Talisca, fast as Zaha/Obertan, freekick accuracy like Nani at his best.. quite pointless video
 
I think Nastasic would be LvG`s type of defender,he is very calm on the ball,there is no panic; even if they press him.City trying to get rid of him for some reason (maybe its his type of injury) but like a said only negative is that injury thing,still young tho,then again we might not be the best place for someone who has long injury issues.
 
I'd guess LVG now knows exactly what he wants and I would say, if not january then in summer, we will break down walls to get the players that we need. Hopefully we can recoup a little from players that are surplus to requirements and bring in the 2-3 players that will fit LVGs system well
 
At least one fullback is an abolute must. I'd add a proven class CB on the list as well.
 


Anybody else follow this guy?

I don't normally take any notice of accounts like this but this guy broke the Steven Gerrard leaving story and to the MLS before anybody else..
 
Mister_Stubbs said:


Anybody else follow this guy?

I don't normally take any notice of accounts like this but this guy broke the Steven Gerrard leaving story and to the MLS before anybody else..
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In 7 hours he went to the tweet you posted from this

@TheTerraceNews
Manchester United are to make bids for Borussia Dortmund's Mats Hummels and Schalke's Benedikt Howedes.
 
NotoriousISSY said:
In 7 hours he went to the tweet you posted from this

@TheTerraceNews
Manchester United are to make bids for Borussia Dortmund's Mats Hummels and Schalke's Benedikt Howedes.
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Howedes sounds a LvG type of player, can play RB CB & LB - multifunctional defender, a captain and WC winner valued around €16m and 26yo
 
I'd take howedes and hummels but we won't be getting them in January.
 
Mister_Stubbs said:
Anybody else follow this guy?

I don't normally take any notice of accounts like this but this guy broke the Steven Gerrard leaving story and to the MLS before anybody else..
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He clearly didn't. Unless you believe that Liverpool officials are briefing some idiot on Twitter instead of the chief sports reporters at the broadsheets with whom they seek positive relations?

There must have been about 100 people that first reported the Van Persie transfer news, too.
 
Kag said:
He clearly didn't. Unless you believe that Liverpool officials are briefing some idiot on Twitter instead of the chief sports reporters at the broadsheets with whom they seek positive relations?

There must have been about 100 people that first reported the Van Persie transfer news, too.
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And even if he did, it doesn't mean much. I remember this one guy who broke the RVP story first apparently who was pretty much assured the Vidal deal (iirc) was done which obviously didn't happen eventually. The thing is even renowned people can't always guarantee transfers unless it's really really close to being done. And as you rightly said , it's much more obvious someone reputable will break it first than a nobody. Now that I have said all this, watch us sign hummels soon.
 
Cba to even click that.

Sportsmole.

"Preparing"

Gundogan.
 
Now I've got to ask something.
I can understand where these Strootman rumours are coming from seen as Van Gaal is such a fan of his during the Holland years. But, where does he fit into our side? It means one of Blind, Mata, or Herrera will be dropped. And to be completely honest I don't think any of those players deserved to get demoted to the bench. So what's the point of getting him? Haha

Sorry for the long post coming from nowhere.
 
Sampy93 said:
Now I've got to ask something.
I can understand where these Strootman rumours are coming from seen as Van Gaal is such a fan of his during the Holland years. But, where does he fit into our side? It means one of Blind, Mata, or Herrera will be dropped. And to be completely honest I don't think any of those players deserved to get demoted to the bench. So what's the point of getting him? Haha

Sorry for the long post coming from nowhere.
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As our midfield has been dire & only Blind has played anywhere near his ability on a consistent basis. How exactly would Mata & Herrera but undroppable?
Van Gaal will do what needs to be done for the betterment of the team.
 
Red_toad said:
As our midfield has been dire & only Blind has played anywhere near his ability on a consistent basis.
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I agree about the consistency.
However, what makes you think that Strootman is consistent?
He has just come out of a major injury and I believe has played 2 games so far for Roma this year. In those games, he has been average-dire (which is expected as he gains match fitness).
I realise he is Dutch, but like Vlaar, being Dutch does not make you one of the best in the World or a worthy buy.
What is it that people have seen, that make them believe that Strootman is so good? I genuinely would like to know.
 
sunama said:
I agree about the consistency.
However, what makes you think that Strootman is consistent?
He has just come out of a major injury and I believe has played 2 games so far for Roma this year. In those games, he has been average-dire (which is expected as he gains match fitness).
I realise he is Dutch, but like Vlaar, being Dutch does not make you one of the best in the World or a worthy buy.
What is it that people have seen, that make them believe that Strootman is so good? I genuinely would like to know.
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His performances for Roma last season, maybe? Probably only second to Vidal in terms of the most consistent midfielder that year.
 
Extract from James Ducker (The Times) article from today.

Although United expect to do the majority of their transfer business next summer, the club are in the market for a centre half, midfielder and right back and will act if a leading target becomes available.
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From Miguel Delaney's webchat:

United have purposefully been quiet about their transfer business - but I believe this is because of Ed Woodward learning the lessons of previous windows - although I have heard that Van Gaal still wants to bring in a defensive midfielder and at least one centre-back. Getting them, of course, is another issue but, as far as I've been told, that's their "plan".

I've heard absolutely nothing on Coleman from various United sources. That's not to say it's not true, but have asked several people and there's been nothing coming back on it.

No. Don't think Hummels, the club captain, will leave Dortmund in such trouble mid-season.

I heard that Van Gaal burst out laughing when he heard the Bale story. I think, to be fair, there may be a deeper issue here and it isn't impossible that Bale leaves Real in the short-term future, but not now.

Van Gaal wants Strootman to happen this window. I have that totally confirmed. It will still take a lot to actually make it happen, though, not least United stumping up big cash - but LVG definitely wants it to happe

I don't know who exactly, but they have a long list of targets that includes Hummels, Godin (both unlikely), Vlaar and Schar, from what I know. I've heard Vidic has been broached as an emergency back-up option if they can't bring in any other CBs, but it's only been thrown around as an idea, no-one actually acting on it yet.

Real sources I've spoken to are adamant Varane will not leave. From what I understand, though, "his people" have been telling United and Chelsea something different.
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Delaney and Ducker knew feck all like everyone else last summer and they are just guessing like they did then. If we or any other bigger club really want Schär, then he'll move. He doesn't want to sign a new contract and his contract runs until the summer, there's no keeping him at Basle.
 
Vlaar * Schär both have 6 months left on their contracts? Feck me get them both in now!
 
Schar could be a very good signing, his contract is running down and we could get him fairly cheap.
 
I like the idea of Schar. Young but experienced and in the center of two good defensive units at Basel and Switzerland.
 
Every time I've seen Schar (admittedly not all that often, but a few times) I've been impressed, didn't realise he was only 23. Would love us to bring him in.
 
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