Manchester United - January Ins and Outs

We should just let Alderweireld know he can come and get £120k a week if he hands a transfer request in.

Get someone like Young or Fellaini off the wage bill and that's that covered.
 
Powderfinger said:
Who is going to pay the wages for these players? Maybe United will agree to subsidize part of their wages in order to get them off the books. But, otherwise, who wants to pay Ashley Young, a winger with no end product who hasn't played consistently for several years, 110K per week? Or Schneiderlin, a pretty good but nothing special DM, 100K per week? Or Memphis, a kid who has proven nothing in England, 90K per week? Premier League clubs have lots of money now but these would still be the highest earners on clubs like Everton, Palace, Soton, etc. They just aren't good enough to merit that, even if they came on a free.
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Well, for Young, they will take wage as they will get him cheap. Similar for Schneiderlin, there are clubs who are interested. If they pay for him for example 15m instead of 25m, they will be ready to take his wage. They will probably take the salary cut in order to play regular football. Not much, but 20-30 per week cut, for longer contract and first team opportunity, I think they will take it.
 
Wages are only an issue if the player doesn't want to leave, hence we couldn't shift Rojo in the summer and we'll have a hard time getting rid of the mop. Players like Memphis and Schneiderlin will be keen to be off IMO and thus will be willing to take pay cuts to get their careers back on track.

Ashley Young has been linked with a few clubs with Watford seemingly the most interested, it would be a good move for him.
 
Scweinsteiger, Depay & Sneiderlin are all defo moving on in January, that should be it until the summer for me. I'd then expect Fellaini, Darmian and possibly Rojo moved on as well, as good as Rojo is playing at the moment, I still feel he's on borrowed time at United and doesn't truly fit the profile of a United player. It wouldn't surprise me if Carrick gets another years contract, then that only leaves the question marks over Rooney, I doubt he will be happy playing from the bench each week.

The first three players don't really need replacing as the squad is bloated as it is, Fellaini, Darmian, Rojo and possibly Rooney will all need replacing. I suspect we will see at least one signing in January and three major signings during the summer.

It also wouldn't surprise me to see Young get another years deal, he's a good utility man who's clearly happy with his squad role within the club.
 
quethenoo said:
I think you are underestimating the power of the mighty greenback, he will go to the team that pays him the most given a choice between historically strong teams.
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This. No player that we want will ever turn us down for Liverpool.
 
the unknown one. said:
I think Nainggolan would be the perfect January signing if we could off load the two Sch's and Depay.

Seems perfectly suited to the English game as well.
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He wouldn't play ahead of Pogba or Herrera. It's a playmaker to replace Carrick we need not a box to box powerhouse.
 
Bwuk said:
He wouldn't play ahead of Pogba or Herrera. It's a playmaker to replace Carrick we need not a box to box powerhouse.
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Would allow use to rest Pogba/Herrera in EL though, and would be great asset off the bench in big games.

Could also play Herrera deep instead of Carrick and press very high with their energy in a similar style to the Scousers.
 
I can't see why we wouldn't offload Memphis and Schneiderlin in January, especially if the deals are permanent, neither feature in the squads most of the time, it's just money for nothing. If Watford want Young for a reasonable fee then I think it's the right time for him to move on as well. It will be the summer before Fellaini, Darmian and Rooney get sold.
 
sunama said:
So, fans want us to sign the flavour of the month who has a few good months in his locker?
Am I missing something here?
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We've always been a flavour of the month type of the club....specially with players who perform particularly well against us.
 
Devil may care said:
I can't see why we wouldn't offload Memphis and Schneiderlin in January, especially if the deals are permanent, neither feature in the squads most of the time, it's just money for nothing. If Watford want Young for a reasonable fee then I think it's the right time for him to move on as well. It will be the summer before Fellaini, Darmian and Rooney get sold.
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You're spot on. I'd like Morgan and Memphis to get more chances but its not gonna happen. So why have we got them sitting on the bench when we could get fees? I'm sure Schneiderlin would have a few buyers interested. Arsenal and Spurs wanted him before. As much as I'd like him to be a regular starter alongside Pogba, I wouldn't mind selling him if it meant getting someone like Matuidi in.

Memphis's stock has dropped, no doubt. But I still think somewhere like Wolfsburg would give him a shot. Maybe even a big team like PSG or Atletico would have him. I dunno. Football is strange sometimes.
 
the unknown one. said:
Would allow use to rest Pogba/Herrera in EL though, and would be great asset off the bench in big games.

Could also play Herrera deep instead of Carrick and press very high with their energy in a similar style to the Scousers.
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Don't think Naingolan would like to join us only to be from the bench option.
 
You guys think Mata will be sold? With Mourinho slowly transitioning to 4-1-4-1 and 4-3-3 (basically the same formations TBH) and Mikhi finding his footing it will be ever harder for Mata to be anything other than a squad player.

Also i guess we will also look to sign 1 more quality right winger.

Also don't think we will see much of Blind in the future as well since he isn't getting game time in important games on LB even with Shaw injured.
 
Mata might choose to leave at the end of the season (his father said something like they'll deal with contract extension/talks at the end of this season), but I don't think we'll actively try to sell him. We'd be pretty silly to do so, too. Ignoring the fact he's one of our best attackers, he's also never injured.
 
Fracture90 said:
You guys think Mata will be sold? With Mourinho slowly transitioning to 4-1-4-1 and 4-3-3 (basically the same formations TBH) and Mikhi finding his footing it will be ever harder for Mata to be anything other than a squad player.

Also i guess we will also look to sign 1 more quality right winger.

Also don't think we will see much of Blind in the future as well since he isn't getting game time in important games on LB even with Shaw injured.
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I think Mourinho would be happy to keep him as a back up attacker, good eye for a goal and generally positive forward passing.

In regards to Blind its strange he's not getting a look in at CB or LB.
 
I'm not sure what will happen with Mata but I wouldn't be surprised to see Blind go, he's now down the pecking order behind even Darmian for LB and not really in with a sniff at CB.
 
GBBQ said:
I think Mourinho would be happy to keep him as a back up attacker, good eye for a goal and generally positive forward passing.

In regards to Blind its strange he's not getting a look in at CB or LB.
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Devil may care said:
I'm not sure what will happen with Mata but I wouldn't be surprised to see Blind go, he's now down the pecking order behind even Darmian for LB and not really in with a sniff at CB.
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Dunno what will happen to Mata if we get another winger that will have an advantage over Mata. Will Mata want to stay with us knowing his playing time will be extremely limited?

Regarding Blind i really wouldn't be surprised to see him go in favour of keeping Darmian since Mourinho clearly rates him, for now.
 
Fracture90 said:
Dunno what will happen to Mata if we get another winger that will have an advantage over Mata. Will Mata want to stay with us knowing his playing time will be extremely limited?

Regarding Blind i really wouldn't be surprised to see him go in favour of keeping Darmian since Mourinho clearly rates him, for now.
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We might get a mini indication of what will happen with Mata tomorrow, with us almost certain to go back to 4-2-3-1 with Carrick returning to the bench, Mata should be in at #10 or RW ahead of either Rooney or Lingard, we shall see.

I could see both Darmian and Blind going come the summer, I don't think either have enough at both ends for Jose's liking, and they are both players that will want to be regulars for their international ambitions.
 
If nothing radical changes till January, I suppose at least Fosu-Mensah (loan), Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin and Memphis should be out.
 
Android1974 said:
If nothing radical changes till January, I suppose at least Fosu-Mensah (loan), Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin and Memphis should be out.
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May as well keep them until the end of the season. In case.
 
Name Changed said:
It's outrageous that Darmian seems to be preferred over Blind or Shaw.
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I dunno, Shaw hasnt been great since the injury, seems to have put on a bit of weight as well last time I saw him.
 
Devil may care said:
We might get a mini indication of what will happen with Mata tomorrow, with us almost certain to go back to 4-2-3-1 with Carrick returning to the bench, Mata should be in at #10 or RW ahead of either Rooney or Lingard, we shall see.

I could see both Darmian and Blind going come the summer, I don't think either have enough at both ends for Jose's liking, and they are both players that will want to be regulars for their international ambitions.
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Oh Mata will certainly play tomorrow. Mikhi is injured and Carrick just played on Sunday for 90 mins so i agree we will go for 4-2-3-1 with mata on the right.

But in long term we are definitely going for 4-3-3 without number 10, with pacey wingers so i really don't see Mata staying with us, especially since Lingard will be staying since he's a homegrown player.

Just to clarify it, regarding Mata and Blind whatever happens will wait till summer OFC. In January i can only see us bringing back CBJ (Mourinho stated his unhappy with the way Wolverhampton are handing his loan) Depay and Schneiderlin will probably go out and Schweinsteiger maybe as well.
 
Blind nominated. Since we dropped him out of regular starting back four, our defence has become more solid, our results has kept improving. I still think that Blind is not a good defender, his good passing skills work best only at registra position. And he lost all my hope when he had an opportunity playing at his best position against Dortmund last summer, may be Mourinho's hope too. Then if Mourinho doesnt have intention playing him at midfield, Blind should be sold.

And Memphis's time must be ended. Had better place our No.7 shirt in traditional room rather than let it disappear like this moment
 
Fracture90 said:
Oh Mata will certainly play tomorrow. Mikhi is injured and Carrick just played on Sunday for 90 mins so i agree we will go for 4-2-3-1 with mata on the right.

But in long term we are definitely going for 4-3-3 without number 10, with pacey wingers so i really don't see Mata staying with us, especially since Lingard will be staying since he's a homegrown player.

Just to clarify it, regarding Mata and Blind whatever happens will wait till summer OFC. In January i can only see us bringing back CBJ (Mourinho stated his unhappy with the way Wolverhampton are handing his loan) Depay and Schneiderlin will probably go out and Schweinsteiger maybe as well.
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That's the thing I was actually wondering, if Jose might flank Ibra with 2 from Martial/Rashford/Lingard for pace and only play one of Rooney/Mata, if Mata got selected ahead of Rooney for the #10 it would say a lot I feel.

I'm not sure we will move to 4-3-3 to be honest, I feel Jose is coaching Pogba to be a fully rounded #8 and if we do buy Griezmann it will be to play off Ibra as he's made his bones as a SS and for the fee we aren't going to stick him wide IMO.

Agree with everything in your 3rd paragraph mate, I just think we might bring a CB and FB in if we can get the quality Jose wants, then we can focus on midfield and attacking additions in the summer.
 
R300k said:
Blind nominated. Since we dropped him out of regular starting back four, our defence has become more solid, our results has kept improving. I still think that Blind is not a good defender, his good passing skills work best only at registra position. And he lost all my hope when he had an opportunity playing at his best position against Dortmund last summer, may be Mourinho's hope too. Then if Mourinho doesnt have intention playing him at midfield, Blind should be sold.

And Memphis's time must be ended. Had better place our No.7 shirt in traditional room rather than let it disappear like this moment
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Sorry that's the biggest load of bull crap

Blind is a fantastic defender. He reads the game very well better then anyone in our squad. You never see him sliding for wild challenges because he's 2 steps ahead of anyone. It's crazy how people can forget how good our defence was when him and Bailley were starting.
 
SSSSnake said:
Sorry that's the biggest load of bull crap

Blind is a fantastic defender. He reads the game very well better then anyone in our squad. You never see him sliding for wild challenges because he's 2 steps ahead of anyone. It's crazy how people can forget how good our defence was when him and Bailley were starting.
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Ya 2 mistakes directly lead to 2 MC goals, how super cool reading skills and 2 steps he had ahead were while he let Pedro easily pass over right at minute one. These were 2 big crucial matches, imagine which position we would have now at PL without his individual mistakes, it is truly biggest load of bull crap and i wouldnt sorry about it, stop BLINDing for nothing
 
R300k said:
Ya 2 mistakes directly lead to 2 MC goals, how super cool reading skills and 2 steps he had ahead were while he let Pedro easily pass over right at minute one. These were 2 big crucial matches, imagine which position we would have now at PL without his individual mistakes, it is truly biggest load of bull crap and i wouldnt sorry about it, stop BLINDing for nothing
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Exactly. Also people that are saying he did great last season as CB seem to forget that De Gea was our POTY last season which means defence didn't do their job properly and it was only De Gea that stopped us from conceding many more goals.
 
Devil81 said:
Scweinsteiger, Depay & Sneiderlin are all defo moving on in January, that should be it until the summer for me. I'd then expect Fellaini, Darmian and possibly Rojo moved on as well, as good as Rojo is playing at the moment, I still feel he's on borrowed time at United and doesn't truly fit the profile of a United player. It wouldn't surprise me if Carrick gets another years contract, then that only leaves the question marks over Rooney, I doubt he will be happy playing from the bench each week.

The first three players don't really need replacing as the squad is bloated as it is, Fellaini, Darmian, Rojo and possibly Rooney will all need replacing. I suspect we will see at least one signing in January and three major signings during the summer.

It also wouldn't surprise me to see Young get another years deal, he's a good utility man who's clearly happy with his squad role within the club.
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What exactly is the profile of a United player?? And who within our current squad fit that "profile"?
 
The red panther said:
But still beter than Darmian who has never been great since signing for United
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I suspect - and may be wrong - that even if he has been better than Darmian, Mourinho has set the bar much, much higher than being better than being mildly pressed and then bursting into tears before booting the ball directly at the nearest opposition player.

At least I hope that's what this is all about.
 
Dont think Shaw and Mata are in damger of getting sold.

Memphis and Morgan look likely, if not now then summer.

Blind half half, seeing that he isnt trusted in midfield and isnt our 3th choice CB and second choice LB.
 
Looking at our team against Palace, we need pace in the wide areas.

Without Martial and Mkhitaryan we haven't got any genuine threats.

Mourinho doesn't rate Depay. Young and Lingard are not good enough and Rashford isn't a winger.
 
Looks almost certain the Memphis and Schneiderlin will both go and I still think Schweini will head off to the US. Darmian seems like he'll get a stay of execution until the summer but I could see Young heading off to Watford or West Brom.

I'm still hoping we get a CB in, our LB situation is also far from in top shape but I'm guessing we'll muddle through with Darmian and Blind while we see if Shaw can get himself into gear.
 
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