Watch them go mental in the market this summer, with selling clubs more vulnerable than ever.
Manchester City banned from CL for 2 seasons and fined 30 million euros | CAS - Ban lifted, fined 10 million
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This is pathetic 10M is just not serious.
Hahaha, do you even believe that yourself? How does blatant attempts to funnel cash through other companies hidden as sponsorship change meaning due to context? Are you saying it was meant as a joke? Sarcasm?
Go on City, you got away with it but you know what's coming. Go and form that European super league you and the other clubs want.
I honestly think it would be death of the unfairness of all leagues. Get City, Juventus, Bayern, Real and Barca and the rest of them, remove them from their leagues, and watch competition blossom. I reckon the clubs that broke away would die a death.
I honestly think it would be death of the unfairness of all leagues. Get City, Juventus, Bayern, Real and Barca and the rest of them, remove them from their leagues, and watch competition blossom. I reckon the clubs that broke away would die a death.
You're having a laugh surely? Do you honestly believe Man City didn't break the rules?
This will be fun to watch, clubs already can be very creative in salary matters (personal sponsorhip deals with companies that support the club, gear sponsors etc.)
No, it only sets a precedent for clubs to not share information if they believe UEFA are pursuing a flawed case against them that will not stand up in an independent court. If UEFA had a stronger case, I can guarantee City would have done everything they could to cooperate and push for a settlement with them, as the club have done previously. It was a risky strategy for City but it tells you that they must have been very, very confident in their position.
Meh, what a joke. I mean, I can’t say I expected anything different, but it’s still a complete farce.
It felt as if football was at a crossroads with this moment. One road would be leveling the playing field between the top clubs somewhat, and the other road being the clubs fueled by state money knowing now that they can completely act without any consequences. We went down the latter road.
City have given the blueprint as to how to avoid facing consequences for obscene amounts of spending.
It felt as if football was at a crossroads with this moment. One road would be leveling the playing field between the top clubs somewhat, and the other road being the clubs fueled by state money knowing now that they can completely act without any consequences. We went down the latter road.
City have given the blueprint as to how to avoid facing consequences for obscene amounts of spending.
they did though, City refused to do a deal with UEFA last year and wanted it to go to CAS straight away as they believed they were in the right.
Maybe this time, though I'm not sure what took them so long. I'm sure City have been involved in similar practices which saw Chelsea get their transfer ban, too.
This! It's clear City did something but it's time-barren now and UEFA didn't follow their own rules. Sometimes two things can be right at the same time.
Bartomeu and Hoeness were both vocal about City's finances and the original investigation and ruling back in February and March. Barcelona have also been outspoken against the likes of City and PSG since the loss of Neymar. It's fairly well documented...
If I'm not mistaken that decision isn't even that waterproof. It's based on a problem of language, CAS created a jurisprudence based on the fact that these financial statements weren't in the last three years in 2019, as far as I can see nothing says that it has to.
I mean CAS did allude to the fact that City breached some of the regulations and those could not be charged due to UEFA’s self imposed statute of limitations. The severity of these breaches remains to be seen (we will find out in a few days when the full report is published). However, we do now know that city’s lack of cooperation hid certain breaches from UEFA’s initial investigation and therefore the investigation wasn’t flawed.
Anyway I don’t buy this being the end of FFP I just think/naively hope it will give UEFA the kick up the arse to formulate more solid protocols in how they investigate. It seems more likely that they were foiled by their own ineptitude rather than City’s legal defence.
Yeah but it was soooooo long ago. Let's move on from it. It was probably nothing anyway.
I always listen to thee justice system. I told duffer yesterday we're innocent like OJ.
nah dude we're guilty as feck.
Of course they knew that. They didn't just find about the existence of CAS when City lodged their appeal...
If anything FFP should limit transfer fees, agent fees and players' wages.
… isn’t that … suspicious?
“We want to take it to this particular court immediately”
It's worth remembering that this isn't The justice system, it's a private arbitration court linked to the IOC.
Have to laugh at the City fans trying to fool themselves and others that they're now innocent.
We've seen the emails, the whole of the football world knows you cheated and that's why no one takes your trophy wins or club seriously any more.
We've seen the emails, the whole of the football world knows you cheated and that's why no one takes your trophy wins or club seriously any more.
No, CAS did not allude to that. They said 'alleged breaches'. They are not making a comment on the legitimacy of those claims whatsoever. No, we do not know that City's lack of cooperation hid certain breaches from UEFA. Yes, we do know the investigation was flawed, otherwise City would now be banned for two-years.
But how will UEFA ever build a strong case against a club if they don't have access to that clubs shit?
It's different when it comes to transfers because there's other clubs/people involved... but when you're talking FFP its what one club is doing, and if that one club won't cooperate then I'd say it's nigh on impossible for UEFA to ever build a strong case.
From the initial statement, CAS have not cleared City of not breaking FFP rules, only that UEFA couldn't prove it... and I imagine a large part of them not being able to prove it was Citiy' lack of cooperation.
= guilty
dont know why they didn’t award Ciddy compensation for the stress theyve been put under
10m fine? fecking corrupt.
There is a reason why "failing to provide a specimen" in a DUI, carries a high penalty. And, allegedly, why Rio got such a large ban for missing a piss test.
It is to ensure that justice for wrongdoing cannot be subverted, by simply refusing to cooperate.
CAS has done the football World a disservice here, by allowing non-cooperation to be a valid tactic to avoid fraud.
UEFA has also failed by not having that loophole removed as a possible tactic.
I'm guessing that the time-barring relates to the previous case, when City were fined, and that previous infractions were deemed to have needed to be raised then.
It is to ensure that justice for wrongdoing cannot be subverted, by simply refusing to cooperate.
CAS has done the football World a disservice here, by allowing non-cooperation to be a valid tactic to avoid fraud.
UEFA has also failed by not having that loophole removed as a possible tactic.
I'm guessing that the time-barring relates to the previous case, when City were fined, and that previous infractions were deemed to have needed to be raised then.
Imagine killing someone and not getting caught until 5 years later.
Here’s a fiver lad, all square?
Here’s a fiver lad, all square?
I think it was more you guys are incompetent and are trying to make a case off dodgy newspaper articles, we'll let people who arent sort this.
UEFA are incompetent and I cant recall them ever winning a big case at cas.
Not surprised! $hitty gets away with murder.
I hope you do not take this approach in real life. No matter how clean you think you are, if you have the option, never let the police/the government in to your business. They will look for something else to stick on you.
Every lawyer worth their salt will tell you that.
Makes a mockery of any "rules" and will encourage teams to break them going forward. Ridiculous its been lifted as they had an opportunity to make a statement for the future
Why am I not surprised though
Why am I not surprised though
"I'm sorry if you feel you've been killed but, in fairness, your murder was out of context."
Its funny seeing City fans here trying to justify this.
"Get up and get over it! Your murder was 5 years ago."
Honestly forgot they were banned.I'm sure AC Milan must be taking this news well
Maybe they should hire better lawyers?
The games bent. This proves it.