Goold old fashioned bribery.
Manchester City banned from CL for 2 seasons and fined 30 million euros | CAS - Ban lifted, fined 10 million
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Goold old fashioned bribery.
Just end FFP and let the Saudis in at Newcastle. Its gonna be fun.
Football as we know it is gone. They could have set an example against the City's and PSG's but have repeatedly failed to do so.
It's so close to just becoming an oil ring dick measuring contest.
It's so close to just becoming an oil ring dick measuring contest.
You really think those guys think about it?
After decades watching the game, I've made peace with the fact that the average football player is not particularly intelligent and will look for $$ before anything else.
Edit. Now reading the last line, maybe they are the intelligent ones after all...
Then Pep will join Newcastle, he always follows the money the bald cnut, where he will still be revered as the best manager of all time after spending a record billion in one window.
Think he'll just go back to Barcelona and be director of football or run for president. And then enter Catalan politics where he can peddle his hypocrisy away from the prying eyes of the English media.
It's not that they're not intelligent, it's that they're just kids who have no experience outside their one very specific area of expertise.
Serious answer: they used the 5-year Statute of Limitations from FFP to dismiss the bulk of the evidence that UEFA had gathered on them. UEFA didn't have enough evidence for the past 5 years to prove that City were cooking their books.
That is just a lazy stereotype that is always said and is cliche.
There are many footballers that have good school grades. Many footballers can speak 5 or 6 languages, and a fair amount have University degrees.
For example Lukaku can speak 6 languages, and he might be a bit of a sluggish footballer but that doesn’t mean he lacks intelligence.
Tickles me that City fans must know deep down that their club is no longer a football club, it's a PR machine for sports washing and it's corrupt to the core, yet feel the need to defend their owners/club in spite of this - they would have more respect off other supporters and people in general if they admitted that their club was nothing but a showpiece for an oppressive regime.
CAS can let them off scott free due to some arbitrary rules about 5 years being too long to punish them but that doesn't stop people seeing the truth and forming their own opinions.
Enjoy your hollow existence Berties.
CAS can let them off scott free due to some arbitrary rules about 5 years being too long to punish them but that doesn't stop people seeing the truth and forming their own opinions.
Enjoy your hollow existence Berties.
Why doesn't football just evolve more towards how the NFL operates.
Maximise revenue but create s fair sporting competition, not the same teams always winning?
1. United fielded the most expensive XI in PL history I believe earlier this season. Your club has been managed terribly recently, City have not and are no longer reliant upon UAE-derived income.
2. Other clubs have big stadiums and big fanbases, well observed.
3. There’s no sign of things getting tough anytime soon. City will be challenging for trophies for the foreseeable future.
4. Yes. Undoubtedly.
1. You have the most expensive squad PL history which is a massive difference to the most expensive starting 11 in PL history. You have not been managed all that well yourselves. The only difference is you have been able to replace your flops straight away due to cash injections from Mansour. The Laporte deal springs to mind.
2. Your attendances are not that big for a PL winning team. There are many teams who would get bigger attendances if they had your backing. West Ham get bigger attendances & they much like yourselves before the takeover are a Yo-Yo team.
3. The American & Chinese investors are along for the ride due to Mansour backing you. If he decides to stop bankrolling you they'll be looking for their money back.
4. We never did find out who the second highest bidders were when Etihad ''won'' the big contract negotiations. You did really well though to get £400 Mill deal from an airline in serious financial trouble that had never made a profit.
To answer that question you have to consider how many franchises american leagues have. The NFL has 32 teams, the NBA has 30 teams, the NHL has 31 teams and the MLB 30 teams. And the reason for that is that if you want to create an egalitarian league, you need to limit the amount of franchises in order to be able to distribute money and players relatively evenly and excluding that many clubs would be very difficult from an image standpoint, a lot of football fans would be unhappy.
The other issue is that american sports rely on the draft system, people often talk about the NFL but it wouldn't be the model, the MLB would be it. The MLB doesn't have a cap and they have a posting system which means that for example players from the Nippon League can be signed by MLB teams against a compensation, it's basically an inter league transfer system, in theory that would work but people need to keep in mind that MLB teams are sugar daddied the wealthier teams are at the top. Instead of having a hard cap, they have what @adexkola mentioned earlier in the thread, a luxury tax, above a certain amount every dollar is taxed which effectively limits spendings but don't forbid them.
And american sports aren't fair, they are egalitarian. Ironically americans created a socialist heaven where Green Bay is subsidized to the point where it artificial become a comparable market to New York, every teams have massive stadiums that are used privately but financed publicly and the owners who are all billionaires get richer after every games without spending much.
Given Tebas’s support for Vox and earlier alignment with the Fuerza Nueva (an explicitly pro-Franco party), I’d suggest Tebas’s obsession with City’s owners goes somewhat beyond just footballing concerns.
I always liked Jose. Save for 10-15 years of not liking him.
Because american sport is a totally different environment.
No-one goes to away games, there's tonnes of adverts, it's more a form of family entertainment.
There's no tribality to games, there's no history. Nothing is earnt, teams are mere franchises that move around.
1. And we've won trophies with it, you've the 3rd most expensive in world history and managed to win feck all. We've won 6 of the last 7 English trophies.
2. Our attendances are fine. According to Uefa we were 13th in Europe in the 18/19 season and above Liverpool of all clubs plus AC Milan, PSG etc...
3. You know them personally and have this information first hand? Or is this guess work like you were doing with regards to everything else City.
4. Do you know who came 2nd in bidding for Uniteds shirt sponsorship? or any other PL club and all their sponsorships etc... or is this another thing only City should have to prove?
1.We won the LC & EL not too long ago. If we'd had the same drawers you've had in cups for the last few years we'd likely have more. You faced 1 top 6 team in your LC & FA Cup run last season.
2. You seem to have a large number of people buying tickets who then don't go to games. You regularly report games are sold out yet there are thousands of empty seats in the stands. Can't be anything dodgy going on there though as it's not your style. You will obviously be able to report you have higher attendances than certain clubs as you have a bigger stadium.
3. If i was an unethical business owner sponsoring City would be a good move. Mansour is willing to pump unlimited funds into the club while they sit back & wait for a kickback.
4. Sponsors value their investment in relation to the clubs standing. I've yet to see a business on the verge of bankruptcy receive a £400 Mill contract from another business that is also on the verge of bankruptcy.
What do you mean exactly?
So are you saying he's wrong?
Tebas openly supports an unashamedly Islamophobic party. He also has an obsession with City’s owners. I’ll let people make their own minds up about his motives.
Yes. Please tell me right now what % of City’s revenue comes from UAE sources. And then tell me what % of that sum you think could not plausibly be replaced by external sponsors to a similar value. I believe City are currently looking for a new shirt sponsor for a start, and you can bet it will be one of the most valuable in Europe.
Vox has also repeatedly complained about human rights in those countries. Tebas recently did an interview on gay footballers and how they shouldn't be shy. So I thought maybe you were referring to that aspect and the UAE.
He also protested about going to the super cup to Arabia for similar reasons.
Without knowing him thoroughly, I would say that he is as isolationist as many of vox voters, and his priority are national issues.
His speech has always been the same, repeating the state clubs issue many times.
Personally I do not think there are personal opinions in his criticism.
1 we had those draws cause you kept losing. You cant blame city for your failings.
All the rest of your post is stuff you made up. Point 4 is decent but the answer sadly is many.
CAS report published
The full CAS report was just released. How UEFA managed to find us guilty and ban us in the face of our actual innocence is disturbing.
You read the full 93 pages already? You must have captained the speed reading team for your county.
From the dailymail. Doesn't sound anything close to innocence tbh
I once tested at 1,500 words per minute.
"In view of all the above, there is no doubt that Etihad fully complied with its payment obligations towards MCFC and that MCFC rendered the contractually obligated services to Etihad in return. The majority of the Panel finds that Etihad Sponsorship Agreements are presumed to be negotiated at fair value and that MCFC, HHSM, ADUG and Etihad are considered not to be 'related parties'. The Etihad Sponsorship Agreements were legally binding contracts. There is no evidence that agreements were backdated or that MCFC otherwise retrospectively tried to cover up alleged violations following the publication of the Leaked Emails."
RedCafe has a new King.
City is a fake ass club that never achieved shit without fake income which is why everyone in their right mind realize their titles are just as fake and plastic.
0 reason to give a shit about. Just close the thread.
0 reason to give a shit about. Just close the thread.
Reading through it now and judging by the reaction from journalists, it's clear a lot of fans on here are going to be disappointed. Full details of the case reflect far more unfavourably on UEFA than City. UEFA's case seemed to be that City must provide x and y and if not they must be guilty. I do not see how on earth UEFA could ever have won at CAS, they simply did not have the grounds to make the claims they did. They had a total of 6 emails from a body of 5.5m stolen from City. CAS also confirm, as I said would be the case, that City did provide additional information at the appeal which they had withheld from UEFA in its refusal to cooperate, which seemed to satisfy CAS.
After 86 pages I thought people were interested. I'm not looking for confrontations. Sorry.
It is a franchise. UAE FC.
City are clearly innocent and have a huge fanbase. Their sponsor income is totally legit and I don't understand why people are so up in arms about.
They're definitely comparable to at least Chelsea. That's why it took me leaving the country to see someone wearing a City jersey on the street (admittedly I've never been to Manchester).
They're definitely comparable to at least Chelsea. That's why it took me leaving the country to see someone wearing a City jersey on the street (admittedly I've never been to Manchester).
Completely agree, I mean the fact that City have had to cover UEFA legal costs and pay a €10m fine for obstruction is just pure coincidence and in no way reflects poorly on the club....