Racist post? It's a fact not anything to do with race. Just annoys me everyone defending the religion which breeds such hatred and such senseless murder.
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I was there mid 1990's! So we are roughly the same era
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I apologize if you take offense because it is not my intention but that's a really uneducated line of thought.
Sigh. and so we begin.
The religion does not. Misguided people with agenda's use religion as their context. Else, 2.5 million Muslims would be celebrating on the street of the UK today and carrying our further attacks. Explain to me why that isn't happening?
It's not just terrorism though. Example, earlier today in Indonesia on public display, in front of an audience of hundreds, gays were whipped with sticks after being caught having sex, and the audience were cheering this on.
Not all terrorists are Muslim, but I'm confident the vast majority of terrorists who use suicide belts as a tactic are; martyrdom is rewarded by their book.
Rip
Sorry to hear the bad news
Stay strong mancunian
Sorry to hear the bad news
Stay strong mancunian
Every time there's a terrorist attack, the threads are just full of people arguing over ridiculous things about it.
You do realize Christians did shit like that too?
Just my opinion, but it isn't the religion. The religion is just used to radicalize people already susceptible to committing crimes for others. As Trump said, quite appropriately, they are losers. People who have lost in society and are on the margins. They don't have a purpose, and they find themselves willing to give themselves up to something which seems grander and larger. In fact they're being used as pawns, for ISIS, or for whoever.
If it were the religion, ask yourself why the profile of these bombers is always so similar. Social outcasts, petty criminals, etc. Why aren't crowned heads of states doing the same thing? Because they pay people to do it for them, and it isn't a religious matter.
It annoys me that people make such bollocks statements like this, but what can you do.
Nice to see the caf go down the same rabit hole once again. An emotional reaction is expected but the same arguments of hitting out at groups serves no one but a hateful agenda.
Stop being Christianaphobic.
Did I say all Muslims?? Can you explain to me why all of these attackers from multiple attacks are all of either Muslim faith or have been at least indoctrinated and influenced by a group who are inherently Muslim??
They were so cheap! I remember the Cheese and Tomato was £1.50 and was huge and very tasty!Happy days pizza
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I'm not falling for your bait or further sidetracking this thread. Your post required a rebuttal, which I've done.
Best wishes.
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What is bollocks about it??
So? Do you hear me say Christians haven't done bad things? Can't change the past, but this is happening now, in a country that has the biggest muslim population in the world. Where high ranked government officials are saying homosexuality is worse than the atom bomb, homosexuals are arrested and beaten by mobs, and today some were beaten with sticks on public display by the local government.
Now if you want to argue that Christianity was/is backward too then I'm not even going to disagree really, but I'm fine with it as long as other people don't get hurt anymore because of it.
But is it? Jihadism also had and has a great pulling power among students, engineers, all kinds of educated people with rather good perspectives.
There's undoubtedly a major problem with Islamic terrorism and I think it's absolutely fair enough to have a discussion about what needs to be done in regards to integration etc, but the bolded is blatantly untrue. Jo Cox wasn't murdered by a Muslim. Brevik wasn't a Muslim. A considerable number of mass murderers in the US aren't Muslim. Radical Islam is a massive, massive problem that shouldn't be downplayed at all, but attacks have come from outside that group as well.
Why don't petty criminals and social outcasts of other faiths commit terroist attacks at anywhere near the same rate as muslims do?
A lot of those people will have been indoctrinated through deaths and events in the Middle East. It's complex, but the religion is secondary in my opinion. Sociopolitical concerns drive this, not religion.
In England, they did only about 20 years ago. They were Catholic, though.
Terrible news.I am sorry for the mancunians,especially if you have friends or family involved.
How someone can be so brain washed to provoke that carnage with kids
How someone can be so brain washed to provoke that carnage with kids
Can the wider Islam debate be taken to a new thread please.
This thread went from somber to shit in the last 60 mins.
No we used to kill them
But Islam is a political ideology too. You can't simply divorce politics and religion when they are so historically intertwined. Certainly not in the Middle East where there is no real prospect of separating mosque and state and the backward society it continues to spawn.
Always ends like that and I feel sorry for the Muslims on this forum.This thread went from somber to shit in the last 60 mins.
And most all the usual suspects accounted for.
You may be getting towards raising some good points. You're just raising them in the wrong place.
We can stop all this if we stop buying oil from the saudis, Qatar and a few more I'm sure and isolate them as a terrorist states, they are the ones supporting all this terrorism.
100% of the bit I bolded.
Even better, invade them and take their oil. Oh wait.
I'm a Muslim. As a teen I was very nearly radicalised. I spent my twenties working on projects to prevent radicalisation.
I think I have a unique perspective on it all. If you want I can tell you why you're not understanding it properly. Just create another topic.
But when it continually stems from one area we should be discussing it. Fact is it is almost nearly always Muslims that have been taught to hate. We should be allowed to discuss that without being labelled as "racist" or "bigoted ".
A little girl is dead because some guy had a fecked up view of religion, we should be talking bout it
Yeah obviously not every murderer or psychopath is going to be Muslim that's a given, however the vast majority are Muslim. The US is a bit of a separate issue as the frequency of random spree killings is unprecedented.
You clearly havent taken a look at the numerous African Christian countries where exactly the same things (and worse) are happening.
It doesn't continually stem from it at all and not all Muslims have been taught to hate, what a stupid statement. This is the reason it's labelled as racist or bigoted because it simply isn't true.
The key part of your post is the guy was fecked up.
I have an 8 year old daughter, this is so incredibly sad. Words fail me right now.
These ISIS feckers really need to be wiped out. They are proud to claim attacks on children, I just can not wrap my head around it. Soldier eh? Yeah, you must be so brave to kill kids..
Why is the world just watching? More efforts need to be done to end this madness.