Aye, exactly. It's been the plan since the beginning with Trap.
Manager draft
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Aye, exactly. It's been the plan since the beginning with Trap.
01. Harms:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Platini 2. Scirea 3. Boniek 4. Bergomi 5. Gentile 6. Cuccureddu 7. Benetti 8. P. Rossi
02. AngeloHenriquez/Stobzilla:- Fabio Capello- 1. F. Baresi 2. Gullit 3. Van Basten 4. Hierro 5. Totti 6. Samuel 7. Emerson 8. Boban
03. Jayvin:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. Davids 2. Kaka 3. Cannavaro 4. Shevchenko 5. Ashley Cole 6. Drogba 7. Thiago Silva 8. G. Buffon
04. Paolo Di Canio:- Louis Van Gaal - 1. Rijkaard 2. Rivaldo 3. Guardiola 4. Ribéry 5. Kluivert 6. Blind 7. Van Bommel 8. Overmars
05. Skizzo:- Udo Lattek - 1. Maradona 2. G. Müller 3. Breitner 4. Rummenigge 5. Augenthaler 6. Lerby 7. Roth 8. Stielike
06. MJJ:- Marcello Lippi - 1. R. Baggio 2. Thuram 3. Del Piero 4. Vieri 5. Ferrara 6. Zambrotta 7. Conte 8.Deschamps
07. Joga Bonito:- Udo Lattek - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Schuster 3. Vogts 4. Brehme 5. Schwarzenbeck 6. Hoeneß 7. Bonhof 8. Wimmer
08. Balu/PedroMendez:- Béla Guttmann - 1. Bozsik 2. Puskás 3. C. Maldini 4. Grosics 5. Mauro Ramos 6. Coluna 7. Augusto 8. Eusebio
09. Raees:- Vicente Del Bosque - 1. Ronaldo 2. Figo 3. M. Laudrup 4. Seedorf 5. Sanchis 6. Helguera 7. L. Enrique 8. Iligner 12. Makelele
10. Cutch:- Alex Ferguson - 1. Beckham 2. Stam 3. Van Nistelrooy 4. Cantona 5. Ferdinand 6. Irwin 7. Schmeichel 8. G Neville 9. Keane
11. Gio:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Matthäus 2. Batistuta 3. Tardelli 4. Kohler 5. Cabrini 6. Reuter 7. Klinsmann 8. Passarella 9. Rivera
12. Edgar Allan Pillow:- Fabio Capello - 1. P. Maldini 2. Nedved 3. Redondo 4. Desailly 5. Savićević 6. Costacurta 7. Albertini 8. Donadoni 9. Panucci
13. The Red Viper:- Pep Guardiola - 1. Lahm 2. Robben 3. Puyol 4. Xavi 5. Iniesta 6. Henry 7. Piqué 8. Busquets 9. Messi
14. DanNistelrooy:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Nesta 3. Pirlo 4. Gattuso 5. Bale 6. Ibrahimovic 7. Di María 8. Terry 9. Ivanović
15. Annahnomoss:- Vanderlei Luxemburgo - 1. Zidane 2. Cafu 3. R. Carlos 4. Raul 5. Gamarra 6. Dida 7. Mauro Silva 8. Ze Roberto 9. Mazinho 12. Romario
16. Crappycraperson:- Rinus Michels - 1. Migueli 2. Cruyff 3. Neeskens 4. Krol 5. Asensi 6. Haan 7. Suurbier 8. Littbarski 9. Schumacher 12. Kiezer
02. AngeloHenriquez/Stobzilla:- Fabio Capello- 1. F. Baresi 2. Gullit 3. Van Basten 4. Hierro 5. Totti 6. Samuel 7. Emerson 8. Boban
03. Jayvin:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. Davids 2. Kaka 3. Cannavaro 4. Shevchenko 5. Ashley Cole 6. Drogba 7. Thiago Silva 8. G. Buffon
04. Paolo Di Canio:- Louis Van Gaal - 1. Rijkaard 2. Rivaldo 3. Guardiola 4. Ribéry 5. Kluivert 6. Blind 7. Van Bommel 8. Overmars
05. Skizzo:- Udo Lattek - 1. Maradona 2. G. Müller 3. Breitner 4. Rummenigge 5. Augenthaler 6. Lerby 7. Roth 8. Stielike
06. MJJ:- Marcello Lippi - 1. R. Baggio 2. Thuram 3. Del Piero 4. Vieri 5. Ferrara 6. Zambrotta 7. Conte 8.Deschamps
07. Joga Bonito:- Udo Lattek - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Schuster 3. Vogts 4. Brehme 5. Schwarzenbeck 6. Hoeneß 7. Bonhof 8. Wimmer
08. Balu/PedroMendez:- Béla Guttmann - 1. Bozsik 2. Puskás 3. C. Maldini 4. Grosics 5. Mauro Ramos 6. Coluna 7. Augusto 8. Eusebio
09. Raees:- Vicente Del Bosque - 1. Ronaldo 2. Figo 3. M. Laudrup 4. Seedorf 5. Sanchis 6. Helguera 7. L. Enrique 8. Iligner 12. Makelele
10. Cutch:- Alex Ferguson - 1. Beckham 2. Stam 3. Van Nistelrooy 4. Cantona 5. Ferdinand 6. Irwin 7. Schmeichel 8. G Neville 9. Keane
11. Gio:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Matthäus 2. Batistuta 3. Tardelli 4. Kohler 5. Cabrini 6. Reuter 7. Klinsmann 8. Passarella 9. Rivera
12. Edgar Allan Pillow:- Fabio Capello - 1. P. Maldini 2. Nedved 3. Redondo 4. Desailly 5. Savićević 6. Costacurta 7. Albertini 8. Donadoni 9. Panucci
13. The Red Viper:- Pep Guardiola - 1. Lahm 2. Robben 3. Puyol 4. Xavi 5. Iniesta 6. Henry 7. Piqué 8. Busquets 9. Messi
14. DanNistelrooy:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Nesta 3. Pirlo 4. Gattuso 5. Bale 6. Ibrahimovic 7. Di María 8. Terry 9. Ivanović
15. Annahnomoss:- Vanderlei Luxemburgo - 1. Zidane 2. Cafu 3. R. Carlos 4. Raul 5. Gamarra 6. Dida 7. Mauro Silva 8. Ze Roberto 9. Mazinho 12. Romario
16. Crappycraperson:- Rinus Michels - 1. Migueli 2. Cruyff 3. Neeskens 4. Krol 5. Asensi 6. Haan 7. Suurbier 8. Littbarski 9. Schumacher 12. Kiezer
Goal with a name of its own - Ivan Zamorano
Position: Forward
Games played: 173
Goals scored: 101
Chilean international: 57 caps
For me this guy at his peak was more talented than Falcao, he could score any type of goal and was such a complete number 9... Great first touch, great link up play, one of the greatest headers of all time, fantastic movement (See the goal in the Uefa Cup final 1998 v Lazio (Nesta in defence and his striker partner is Ronaldo!!), finishing ability of either foot, capable of smashes, tap ins.. you name it Bam Bam had it. In this team he has Ronaldo alongside him as he did at Inter and Laudrup supplying him just like he did in 94/95 where he won the Pichichi,
Tenacity and goal personified. In four seasons with Real Madrid Iván Zamorano scored 100 goals, leaving behind pleasant memories for the fans. Nicknamed Bam Bam, he was fundamental in the conquest of the 1994/95 La Liga title, where he was the league’s leading scorer (28 goals).
A forward with good goal-scoring sense, his greatest virtue was his header on goal. Zamorano was not especially tall (1.79), but his powerful legs allowed him to stay in the air much longer than defenders. During his time in Spain he would score with his headers some of the most spectacular goals ever seen.
Iván left Chile at the age of 21 to earn a living as a professional footballer in Europe. At Bologna and St. Gallen he polished his skills, becoming a better and more complete centre forward. In 1990 he signed for Sevilla, his springboard. After two seasons as one of the best strikers in the Spanish competition, he signed for Real Madrid
His best game as the Whites’ forward took place on 7 January 1995. It was the night of the 5-0 thrashing of Barcelona. Bam Bam scored three goals and participated in the other two. That victory earned Jorge Valdano’s team recognition, team that went on to win La Liga with authority. Zamorano left the club in 1996 bound for Inter Milan.
After five seasons in the Spanish league, Zamorano played four seasons in Serie A with Internazionale, from 1996 to 2000, where he was the teammate withYouri Djorkaeff, Diego Simeone, Javier Zanetti, and Ronaldo, among others. He was initially the club's premier striker, holding the coveted number nine shirt. However, upon Baggio's arrival at the club, Ronaldo was forced to give up number ten, and wear number nine, therefore Zamorano had to give up his number and started wearing a shirt bearing the number '1+8', therefore making him mathematically still a number 9 striker.[5] In May 1998, Inter won the UEFA Cup after beating Lazio in the final 3–0, with Zamorano scoring the opening goal. He had also scored in second leg of the previous year's final, with the game going to penalties.
HONOURS
1 La Liga
1 Copa del Rey
1 Spanish Super Cup
@Balu
@Joga Bonito I think you can pick.
I think @Balu said he would be gone for a while and would pick when he gets back.
I think @Balu said he would be gone for a while and would pick when he gets back.
Zamorano and Laudrup?
The following is a slight variation of a wonderful post by @antohan , who once was also lucky to play this brilliant player alongside Eusebio.
It’s 1962 when Béla Guttmann takes over at Peñarol and brings the club on course to a fifth consecutive national championship win. Following the introduction of the European Cup, the club has successfully pushed for the creation of the South American equivalent: the Copa Libertadores.
Also following a certain European example, in 1960 the club decides to amass the best players from elsewhere in the continent and sign Alberto Spencer (Eusebio his more than able deputy), which delivers the first Libertadores Cup. Real Madrid still trounce them in the Madrid leg of the Intercontinental Cup after a draw in Montevideo.
So Peñarol go further the next year and sign a world class partner for him:
Juan Víctor Joya
The Joya-Spencer (i.e. Joya-Eusebio) tandem went from strength to strength over eight years and went on to deliver:
Despite repeated approaches by the Uruguayan FA, neither Joya nor Spencer accepted the invitation to play for the national team, or else the 1966 World Cup would have quite probably gone elsewhere. Instead, they both joined Ryan Giggs in the pantheon of football greats who never set foot on the world’s biggest stage.
Their destinies remained interlinked all the way to their deaths. Ironically, Joya dies a year after Spencer, just like he joined Peñarol a year later. Despite having stayed loyal to their countries, they were mourned in Uruguay even more than in Peru and Ecuador – to the point their families decided to bury them in Montevideo, with all expenses paid by the club. A Carnival song dedicated to them went on to top the Uruguayan charts almost 40 years after they had last kicked a ball.
Eusebio knows the big boots he is being asked to fill after seeing his Benfica side concede seven goals to Peñarol over two games. He is aware much of that (two goals + three assists) came from the man on the left wing.
@Balu
It’s 1962 when Béla Guttmann takes over at Peñarol and brings the club on course to a fifth consecutive national championship win. Following the introduction of the European Cup, the club has successfully pushed for the creation of the South American equivalent: the Copa Libertadores.
Also following a certain European example, in 1960 the club decides to amass the best players from elsewhere in the continent and sign Alberto Spencer (Eusebio his more than able deputy), which delivers the first Libertadores Cup. Real Madrid still trounce them in the Madrid leg of the Intercontinental Cup after a draw in Montevideo.
So Peñarol go further the next year and sign a world class partner for him:
Juan Víctor Joya
The Joya-Spencer (i.e. Joya-Eusebio) tandem went from strength to strength over eight years and went on to deliver:
- 6 league titles,
- two Libertadores Cup wins,
- two Libertadores runners-up (would have been 4 wins with GD or away goals settling things instead of a third game )
- two Intercontinental Cup wins (against Benfica in 1961 and Real Madrid in 1966)
- the 1969 Intercontinental Cup Supercup (a tournament for all former Intercontinental winners i.e. “the 60s Super Cup”)
Despite repeated approaches by the Uruguayan FA, neither Joya nor Spencer accepted the invitation to play for the national team, or else the 1966 World Cup would have quite probably gone elsewhere. Instead, they both joined Ryan Giggs in the pantheon of football greats who never set foot on the world’s biggest stage.
Their destinies remained interlinked all the way to their deaths. Ironically, Joya dies a year after Spencer, just like he joined Peñarol a year later. Despite having stayed loyal to their countries, they were mourned in Uruguay even more than in Peru and Ecuador – to the point their families decided to bury them in Montevideo, with all expenses paid by the club. A Carnival song dedicated to them went on to top the Uruguayan charts almost 40 years after they had last kicked a ball.
Eusebio knows the big boots he is being asked to fill after seeing his Benfica side concede seven goals to Peñarol over two games. He is aware much of that (two goals + three assists) came from the man on the left wing.
@Balu
@Joga Bonito : his pick is Sepp Maier.
01. Harms:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Platini 2. Scirea 3. Boniek 4. Bergomi 5. Gentile 6. Cuccureddu 7. Benetti 8. P. Rossi
02. AngeloHenriquez/Stobzilla:- Fabio Capello- 1. F. Baresi 2. Gullit 3. Van Basten 4. Hierro 5. Totti 6. Samuel 7. Emerson 8. Boban
03. Jayvin:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. Davids 2. Kaka 3. Cannavaro 4. Shevchenko 5. Ashley Cole 6. Drogba 7. Thiago Silva 8. G. Buffon
04. Paolo Di Canio:- Louis Van Gaal - 1. Rijkaard 2. Rivaldo 3. Guardiola 4. Ribéry 5. Kluivert 6. Blind 7. Van Bommel 8. Overmars
05. Skizzo:- Udo Lattek - 1. Maradona 2. G. Müller 3. Breitner 4. Rummenigge 5. Augenthaler 6. Lerby 7. Roth 8. Stielike
06. MJJ:- Marcello Lippi - 1. R. Baggio 2. Thuram 3. Del Piero 4. Vieri 5. Ferrara 6. Zambrotta 7. Conte 8.Deschamps
07. Joga Bonito:- Udo Lattek - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Schuster 3. Vogts 4. Brehme 5. Schwarzenbeck 6. Hoeneß 7. Bonhof 8. Wimmer 9. Sepp Maier
08. Balu/PedroMendez:- Béla Guttmann - 1. Bozsik 2. Puskás 3. C. Maldini 4. Grosics 5. Mauro Ramos 6. Coluna 7. Augusto 8. Eusebio 9. Joya
09. Raees:- Vicente Del Bosque - 1. Ronaldo 2. Figo 3. M. Laudrup 4. Seedorf 5. Sanchis 6. Helguera 7. L. Enrique 8. Iligner 9. I. Zamorano 12. Makelele
10. Cutch:- Alex Ferguson - 1. Beckham 2. Stam 3. Van Nistelrooy 4. Cantona 5. Ferdinand 6. Irwin 7. Schmeichel 8. G Neville 9. Keane
11. Gio:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Matthäus 2. Batistuta 3. Tardelli 4. Kohler 5. Cabrini 6. Reuter 7. Klinsmann 8. Passarella 9. Rivera
12. Edgar Allan Pillow:- Fabio Capello - 1. P. Maldini 2. Nedved 3. Redondo 4. Desailly 5. Savićević 6. Costacurta 7. Albertini 8. Donadoni 9. Panucci
13. The Red Viper:- Pep Guardiola - 1. Lahm 2. Robben 3. Puyol 4. Xavi 5. Iniesta 6. Henry 7. Piqué 8. Busquets 9. Messi
14. DanNistelrooy:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Nesta 3. Pirlo 4. Gattuso 5. Bale 6. Ibrahimovic 7. Di María 8. Terry 9. Ivanović
15. Annahnomoss:- Vanderlei Luxemburgo - 1. Zidane 2. Cafu 3. R. Carlos 4. Raul 5. Gamarra 6. Dida 7. Mauro Silva 8. Ze Roberto 9. Mazinho 12. Romario
16. Crappycraperson:- Rinus Michels - 1. Migueli 2. Cruyff 3. Neeskens 4. Krol 5. Asensi 6. Haan 7. Suurbier 8. Littbarski 9. Schumacher 12. Kiezer
@MJJ is next
@Skizzo
02. AngeloHenriquez/Stobzilla:- Fabio Capello- 1. F. Baresi 2. Gullit 3. Van Basten 4. Hierro 5. Totti 6. Samuel 7. Emerson 8. Boban
03. Jayvin:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. Davids 2. Kaka 3. Cannavaro 4. Shevchenko 5. Ashley Cole 6. Drogba 7. Thiago Silva 8. G. Buffon
04. Paolo Di Canio:- Louis Van Gaal - 1. Rijkaard 2. Rivaldo 3. Guardiola 4. Ribéry 5. Kluivert 6. Blind 7. Van Bommel 8. Overmars
05. Skizzo:- Udo Lattek - 1. Maradona 2. G. Müller 3. Breitner 4. Rummenigge 5. Augenthaler 6. Lerby 7. Roth 8. Stielike
06. MJJ:- Marcello Lippi - 1. R. Baggio 2. Thuram 3. Del Piero 4. Vieri 5. Ferrara 6. Zambrotta 7. Conte 8.Deschamps
07. Joga Bonito:- Udo Lattek - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Schuster 3. Vogts 4. Brehme 5. Schwarzenbeck 6. Hoeneß 7. Bonhof 8. Wimmer 9. Sepp Maier
08. Balu/PedroMendez:- Béla Guttmann - 1. Bozsik 2. Puskás 3. C. Maldini 4. Grosics 5. Mauro Ramos 6. Coluna 7. Augusto 8. Eusebio 9. Joya
09. Raees:- Vicente Del Bosque - 1. Ronaldo 2. Figo 3. M. Laudrup 4. Seedorf 5. Sanchis 6. Helguera 7. L. Enrique 8. Iligner 9. I. Zamorano 12. Makelele
10. Cutch:- Alex Ferguson - 1. Beckham 2. Stam 3. Van Nistelrooy 4. Cantona 5. Ferdinand 6. Irwin 7. Schmeichel 8. G Neville 9. Keane
11. Gio:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Matthäus 2. Batistuta 3. Tardelli 4. Kohler 5. Cabrini 6. Reuter 7. Klinsmann 8. Passarella 9. Rivera
12. Edgar Allan Pillow:- Fabio Capello - 1. P. Maldini 2. Nedved 3. Redondo 4. Desailly 5. Savićević 6. Costacurta 7. Albertini 8. Donadoni 9. Panucci
13. The Red Viper:- Pep Guardiola - 1. Lahm 2. Robben 3. Puyol 4. Xavi 5. Iniesta 6. Henry 7. Piqué 8. Busquets 9. Messi
14. DanNistelrooy:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Nesta 3. Pirlo 4. Gattuso 5. Bale 6. Ibrahimovic 7. Di María 8. Terry 9. Ivanović
15. Annahnomoss:- Vanderlei Luxemburgo - 1. Zidane 2. Cafu 3. R. Carlos 4. Raul 5. Gamarra 6. Dida 7. Mauro Silva 8. Ze Roberto 9. Mazinho 12. Romario
16. Crappycraperson:- Rinus Michels - 1. Migueli 2. Cruyff 3. Neeskens 4. Krol 5. Asensi 6. Haan 7. Suurbier 8. Littbarski 9. Schumacher 12. Kiezer
@MJJ is next
@Skizzo
Zamorano and Laudrup?
Zamorano immediately became pichichi—top scorer of the Spanish league, La Liga. An impressive 82% of his goals from the 1994–95 season came from assists from Laudrup.
There is a backheeled assist in the Laudrup vid I posted earliar to Zamorano, but not sure of the opponent.
Ze Roberto started his career in Portuguesa as a left back and as a 21 year old he started getting picked for the Brazilian National team. When he was 23 he left the Brazilian league to join Real Madrid, where he soon found that competing with a Roberto Carlos in his peak(and a packed midfield) wasn't going to give him the game time to get to start for the World Cup in '98.
Ze Roberto moved home to Flamengo, but it wasn't enough to become a starter, instead he had to see himself in the 23 man squad in the '98 World Cup. After just 24 games for Flamengo he was signed by Leverkusen, and was now playing mostly as a central midfielder, where Ballack operated as the most offensive central midfielder.
He was with with Lucio and Ballack one of the big reasons Leverkusen reached the Champions League final in 01-02 by kicking out United on away goals. Both Ballack and Ze Roberto pulled a Gotze and moved to the rivaling Bayern Munich where they both enjoyed great success. In 2006 he was named in the FIFA World Cup team as the only Brazilian, but the newly appointed coach Felix Magath wouldn't assure Ze Roberto of game time so he finished a move to Santos, where Vanderlei Luxemburgo was the manager.
Magath was sacked by Bayern in January '07, and after having an incredible year Ze Roberto returned to Bayern as a bosman and formed a midfield partnership with van Bommel.
It is difficult to describe someone of Ze Roberto's playing style without sounding hyperbole as his dribbling was absolute world class even for a top winger while he was still a defensively sound and hard working central midfielder. Usually these type of players ends up as attacking midfielders, wingers or free forwards. So here are two videos instead; Thanks to his dribbling ability he was capable of moving out wide left and operating as a left winger whenever there was an opportunity for it but he was still capable of staying back and covering thanks to his ability to play as a left back.
Short version, 1:08 in the video.
Long version
Ze Roberto moved home to Flamengo, but it wasn't enough to become a starter, instead he had to see himself in the 23 man squad in the '98 World Cup. After just 24 games for Flamengo he was signed by Leverkusen, and was now playing mostly as a central midfielder, where Ballack operated as the most offensive central midfielder.
He was with with Lucio and Ballack one of the big reasons Leverkusen reached the Champions League final in 01-02 by kicking out United on away goals. Both Ballack and Ze Roberto pulled a Gotze and moved to the rivaling Bayern Munich where they both enjoyed great success. In 2006 he was named in the FIFA World Cup team as the only Brazilian, but the newly appointed coach Felix Magath wouldn't assure Ze Roberto of game time so he finished a move to Santos, where Vanderlei Luxemburgo was the manager.
Magath was sacked by Bayern in January '07, and after having an incredible year Ze Roberto returned to Bayern as a bosman and formed a midfield partnership with van Bommel.
It is difficult to describe someone of Ze Roberto's playing style without sounding hyperbole as his dribbling was absolute world class even for a top winger while he was still a defensively sound and hard working central midfielder. Usually these type of players ends up as attacking midfielders, wingers or free forwards. So here are two videos instead; Thanks to his dribbling ability he was capable of moving out wide left and operating as a left winger whenever there was an opportunity for it but he was still capable of staying back and covering thanks to his ability to play as a left back.
Short version, 1:08 in the video.
Long version
I wonder if @MJJ took my advice and mailed his next couple of picks to somebody
ZeRo is indeed a very good pick.
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01. Harms:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Platini 2. Scirea 3. Boniek 4. Bergomi 5. Gentile 6. Cuccureddu 7. Benetti 8. P. Rossi
02. AngeloHenriquez/Stobzilla:- Fabio Capello- 1. F. Baresi 2. Gullit 3. Van Basten 4. Hierro 5. Totti 6. Samuel 7. Emerson 8. Boban
03. Jayvin:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. Davids 2. Kaka 3. Cannavaro 4. Shevchenko 5. Ashley Cole 6. Drogba 7. Thiago Silva 8. G. Buffon
04. Paolo Di Canio:- Louis Van Gaal - 1. Rijkaard 2. Rivaldo 3. Guardiola 4. Ribéry 5. Kluivert 6. Blind 7. Van Bommel 8. Overmars
05. Skizzo:- Udo Lattek - 1. Maradona 2. G. Müller 3. Breitner 4. Rummenigge 5. Augenthaler 6. Lerby 7. Roth 8. Stielike 9.
06. MJJ:- Marcello Lippi - 1. R. Baggio 2. Thuram 3. Del Piero 4. Vieri 5. Ferrara 6. Zambrotta 7. Conte 8.Deschamps 9. Zanetti
07. Joga Bonito:- Udo Lattek - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Schuster 3. Vogts 4. Brehme 5. Schwarzenbeck 6. Hoeneß 7. Bonhof 8. Wimmer 9. Sepp Maier
08. Balu/PedroMendez:- Béla Guttmann - 1. Bozsik 2. Puskás 3. C. Maldini 4. Grosics 5. Mauro Ramos 6. Coluna 7. Augusto 8. Eusebio 9. Joya
09. Raees:- Vicente Del Bosque - 1. Ronaldo 2. Figo 3. M. Laudrup 4. Seedorf 5. Sanchis 6. Helguera 7. L. Enrique 8. Iligner 9. I. Zamorano 12. Makelele
10. Cutch:- Alex Ferguson - 1. Beckham 2. Stam 3. Van Nistelrooy 4. Cantona 5. Ferdinand 6. Irwin 7. Schmeichel 8. G Neville 9. Keane
11. Gio:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Matthäus 2. Batistuta 3. Tardelli 4. Kohler 5. Cabrini 6. Reuter 7. Klinsmann 8. Passarella 9. Rivera
12. Edgar Allan Pillow:- Fabio Capello - 1. P. Maldini 2. Nedved 3. Redondo 4. Desailly 5. Savićević 6. Costacurta 7. Albertini 8. Donadoni 9. Panucci
13. The Red Viper:- Pep Guardiola - 1. Lahm 2. Robben 3. Puyol 4. Xavi 5. Iniesta 6. Henry 7. Piqué 8. Busquets 9. Messi
14. DanNistelrooy:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Nesta 3. Pirlo 4. Gattuso 5. Bale 6. Ibrahimovic 7. Di María 8. Terry 9. Ivanović
15. Annahnomoss:- Vanderlei Luxemburgo - 1. Zidane 2. Cafu 3. R. Carlos 4. Raul 5. Gamarra 6. Dida 7. Mauro Silva 8. Ze Roberto 9. Mazinho 12. Romario
16. Crappycraperson:- Rinus Michels - 1. Migueli 2. Cruyff 3. Neeskens 4. Krol 5. Asensi 6. Haan 7. Suurbier 8. Littbarski 9. Schumacher 12. Kiezer
@Skizzo
02. AngeloHenriquez/Stobzilla:- Fabio Capello- 1. F. Baresi 2. Gullit 3. Van Basten 4. Hierro 5. Totti 6. Samuel 7. Emerson 8. Boban
03. Jayvin:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. Davids 2. Kaka 3. Cannavaro 4. Shevchenko 5. Ashley Cole 6. Drogba 7. Thiago Silva 8. G. Buffon
04. Paolo Di Canio:- Louis Van Gaal - 1. Rijkaard 2. Rivaldo 3. Guardiola 4. Ribéry 5. Kluivert 6. Blind 7. Van Bommel 8. Overmars
05. Skizzo:- Udo Lattek - 1. Maradona 2. G. Müller 3. Breitner 4. Rummenigge 5. Augenthaler 6. Lerby 7. Roth 8. Stielike 9.
06. MJJ:- Marcello Lippi - 1. R. Baggio 2. Thuram 3. Del Piero 4. Vieri 5. Ferrara 6. Zambrotta 7. Conte 8.Deschamps 9. Zanetti
07. Joga Bonito:- Udo Lattek - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Schuster 3. Vogts 4. Brehme 5. Schwarzenbeck 6. Hoeneß 7. Bonhof 8. Wimmer 9. Sepp Maier
08. Balu/PedroMendez:- Béla Guttmann - 1. Bozsik 2. Puskás 3. C. Maldini 4. Grosics 5. Mauro Ramos 6. Coluna 7. Augusto 8. Eusebio 9. Joya
09. Raees:- Vicente Del Bosque - 1. Ronaldo 2. Figo 3. M. Laudrup 4. Seedorf 5. Sanchis 6. Helguera 7. L. Enrique 8. Iligner 9. I. Zamorano 12. Makelele
10. Cutch:- Alex Ferguson - 1. Beckham 2. Stam 3. Van Nistelrooy 4. Cantona 5. Ferdinand 6. Irwin 7. Schmeichel 8. G Neville 9. Keane
11. Gio:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Matthäus 2. Batistuta 3. Tardelli 4. Kohler 5. Cabrini 6. Reuter 7. Klinsmann 8. Passarella 9. Rivera
12. Edgar Allan Pillow:- Fabio Capello - 1. P. Maldini 2. Nedved 3. Redondo 4. Desailly 5. Savićević 6. Costacurta 7. Albertini 8. Donadoni 9. Panucci
13. The Red Viper:- Pep Guardiola - 1. Lahm 2. Robben 3. Puyol 4. Xavi 5. Iniesta 6. Henry 7. Piqué 8. Busquets 9. Messi
14. DanNistelrooy:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Nesta 3. Pirlo 4. Gattuso 5. Bale 6. Ibrahimovic 7. Di María 8. Terry 9. Ivanović
15. Annahnomoss:- Vanderlei Luxemburgo - 1. Zidane 2. Cafu 3. R. Carlos 4. Raul 5. Gamarra 6. Dida 7. Mauro Silva 8. Ze Roberto 9. Mazinho 12. Romario
16. Crappycraperson:- Rinus Michels - 1. Migueli 2. Cruyff 3. Neeskens 4. Krol 5. Asensi 6. Haan 7. Suurbier 8. Littbarski 9. Schumacher 12. Kiezer
@Skizzo
Hansen moved on to Bundesliga club Bayern Munich in 1970. At Bayern, he became a regular starter in the right fullback position. His time at Bayern Munich was very successful. In Hansen's first year at the club, they won the 1971 DFB-Pokalcup trophy, and finished second in the Bundesliga. As the Danish rule of amateurism was abolished in 1971, Hansen returned to the national team.
Hansen was the first player to score in a Bundesliga match at the Olympic Stadium inMunich in June 1972 when Bayern secured the Championship with a 5–1 win over runner up against Schalke 04. The game was the last round of the 1972 Bundesliga, when Bayern and FC Schalke 04 decided the championship between them, in front of 79.012 spectators. Bayern won 5–1. In the following years, Bayern swept the Bundesliga, winning the 1972, 1973 and 1974 championships. For three years in a row, from 1974 to 1976, the club also won the international European Cuptournament each year. Hansen followed the 1975 final from his sickbed, but played in the 1974 and 1976 finals. In 1976, Hansen also helped Bayern Munich win theIntercontinental Cup.
Can't tag Paulo again of someone could help me
I'll throw another Ballon D'Or winner into the mix:
That took friggin' ages!
Joya-Eusebio
I can barely think of any Dutch right backs at all. I get to Michael Reizeger and that's basically it for me. Strange that a country famous for producing well-rounded, technical players has had so few competent right backs.
I would say he was brutalised on the pitch, but the voters thought differently. Ignorants.
I wonder if Crappy remembered the shit that Suurbier ate in that draft before he picked him. Also, that Passarella story was brilliant Gio!Gio is really good at these drafts, even in the newbies
01. Harms:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Platini 2. Scirea 3. Boniek 4. Bergomi 5. Gentile 6. Cuccureddu 7. Benetti 8. P. Rossi
02. AngeloHenriquez/Stobzilla:- Fabio Capello- 1. F. Baresi 2. Gullit 3. Van Basten 4. Hierro 5. Totti 6. Samuel 7. Emerson 8. Boban
03. Jayvin:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. Davids 2. Kaka 3. Cannavaro 4. Shevchenko 5. Ashley Cole 6. Drogba 7. Thiago Silva 8. G. Buffon 9. Alonso
04. Paolo Di Canio:- Louis Van Gaal - 1. Rijkaard 2. Rivaldo 3. Guardiola 4. Ribéry 5. Kluivert 6. Blind 7. Van Bommel 8. Overmars 9 F. de Boer
05. Skizzo:- Udo Lattek - 1. Maradona 2. G. Müller 3. Breitner 4. Rummenigge 5. Augenthaler 6. Lerby 7. Roth 8. Stielike 9. J. Hansen
06. MJJ:- Marcello Lippi - 1. R. Baggio 2. Thuram 3. Del Piero 4. Vieri 5. Ferrara 6. Zambrotta 7. Conte 8.Deschamps 9. Zanetti
07. Joga Bonito:- Udo Lattek - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Schuster 3. Vogts 4. Brehme 5. Schwarzenbeck 6. Hoeneß 7. Bonhof 8. Wimmer 9. Sepp Maier
08. Balu/PedroMendez:- Béla Guttmann - 1. Bozsik 2. Puskás 3. C. Maldini 4. Grosics 5. Mauro Ramos 6. Coluna 7. Augusto 8. Eusebio 9. Joya
09. Raees:- Vicente Del Bosque - 1. Ronaldo 2. Figo 3. M. Laudrup 4. Seedorf 5. Sanchis 6. Helguera 7. L. Enrique 8. Iligner 9. I. Zamorano 12. Makelele
10. Cutch:- Alex Ferguson - 1. Beckham 2. Stam 3. Van Nistelrooy 4. Cantona 5. Ferdinand 6. Irwin 7. Schmeichel 8. G Neville 9. Keane
11. Gio:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Matthäus 2. Batistuta 3. Tardelli 4. Kohler 5. Cabrini 6. Reuter 7. Klinsmann 8. Passarella 9. Rivera
12. Edgar Allan Pillow:- Fabio Capello - 1. P. Maldini 2. Nedved 3. Redondo 4. Desailly 5. Savićević 6. Costacurta 7. Albertini 8. Donadoni 9. Panucci
13. The Red Viper:- Pep Guardiola - 1. Lahm 2. Robben 3. Puyol 4. Xavi 5. Iniesta 6. Henry 7. Piqué 8. Busquets 9. Messi
14. DanNistelrooy:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Nesta 3. Pirlo 4. Gattuso 5. Bale 6. Ibrahimovic 7. Di María 8. Terry 9. Ivanović
15. Annahnomoss:- Vanderlei Luxemburgo - 1. Zidane 2. Cafu 3. R. Carlos 4. Raul 5. Gamarra 6. Dida 7. Mauro Silva 8. Ze Roberto 9. Mazinho 12. Romario
16. Crappycraperson:- Rinus Michels - 1. Migueli 2. Cruyff 3. Neeskens 4. Krol 5. Asensi 6. Haan 7. Suurbier 8. Littbarski 9. Schumacher 12. Kiezer
@Stobzilla Your turn mate. What happened to AngeloHenriqeuz? He just disappeared.
02. AngeloHenriquez/Stobzilla:- Fabio Capello- 1. F. Baresi 2. Gullit 3. Van Basten 4. Hierro 5. Totti 6. Samuel 7. Emerson 8. Boban
03. Jayvin:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. Davids 2. Kaka 3. Cannavaro 4. Shevchenko 5. Ashley Cole 6. Drogba 7. Thiago Silva 8. G. Buffon 9. Alonso
04. Paolo Di Canio:- Louis Van Gaal - 1. Rijkaard 2. Rivaldo 3. Guardiola 4. Ribéry 5. Kluivert 6. Blind 7. Van Bommel 8. Overmars 9 F. de Boer
05. Skizzo:- Udo Lattek - 1. Maradona 2. G. Müller 3. Breitner 4. Rummenigge 5. Augenthaler 6. Lerby 7. Roth 8. Stielike 9. J. Hansen
06. MJJ:- Marcello Lippi - 1. R. Baggio 2. Thuram 3. Del Piero 4. Vieri 5. Ferrara 6. Zambrotta 7. Conte 8.Deschamps 9. Zanetti
07. Joga Bonito:- Udo Lattek - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Schuster 3. Vogts 4. Brehme 5. Schwarzenbeck 6. Hoeneß 7. Bonhof 8. Wimmer 9. Sepp Maier
08. Balu/PedroMendez:- Béla Guttmann - 1. Bozsik 2. Puskás 3. C. Maldini 4. Grosics 5. Mauro Ramos 6. Coluna 7. Augusto 8. Eusebio 9. Joya
09. Raees:- Vicente Del Bosque - 1. Ronaldo 2. Figo 3. M. Laudrup 4. Seedorf 5. Sanchis 6. Helguera 7. L. Enrique 8. Iligner 9. I. Zamorano 12. Makelele
10. Cutch:- Alex Ferguson - 1. Beckham 2. Stam 3. Van Nistelrooy 4. Cantona 5. Ferdinand 6. Irwin 7. Schmeichel 8. G Neville 9. Keane
11. Gio:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Matthäus 2. Batistuta 3. Tardelli 4. Kohler 5. Cabrini 6. Reuter 7. Klinsmann 8. Passarella 9. Rivera
12. Edgar Allan Pillow:- Fabio Capello - 1. P. Maldini 2. Nedved 3. Redondo 4. Desailly 5. Savićević 6. Costacurta 7. Albertini 8. Donadoni 9. Panucci
13. The Red Viper:- Pep Guardiola - 1. Lahm 2. Robben 3. Puyol 4. Xavi 5. Iniesta 6. Henry 7. Piqué 8. Busquets 9. Messi
14. DanNistelrooy:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Nesta 3. Pirlo 4. Gattuso 5. Bale 6. Ibrahimovic 7. Di María 8. Terry 9. Ivanović
15. Annahnomoss:- Vanderlei Luxemburgo - 1. Zidane 2. Cafu 3. R. Carlos 4. Raul 5. Gamarra 6. Dida 7. Mauro Silva 8. Ze Roberto 9. Mazinho 12. Romario
16. Crappycraperson:- Rinus Michels - 1. Migueli 2. Cruyff 3. Neeskens 4. Krol 5. Asensi 6. Haan 7. Suurbier 8. Littbarski 9. Schumacher 12. Kiezer
@Stobzilla Your turn mate. What happened to AngeloHenriqeuz? He just disappeared.
Is the standard in the newbies higher?
How come Gio plays in the newbies?
Can't be higher, I won a draft in the newbies
Aye, I really like the way he constructs his teams. Rivera is a smashing pick at this stage. Top-class creativity was probably the only thing I felt his team lacked a bit of before that pick. Plus he can upgrade him for Glenn Whelan next round
.I am most likely going to idle for a few days if I can't get the hold of internet(and time) so I will make my lasts picks right now and I will give somebody the right to change a pick before a draft in case somebody steals it.
I don't think anybody can or will steal them.
I don't think anybody can or will steal them.
I want the draw!
It might be over tomorrow (optimistic) or day after (realistic). Do the draw and PM Pedro, Pat or anto if you won't be back by then.
01. Harms:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Platini 2. Scirea 3. Boniek 4. Bergomi 5. Gentile 6. Cuccureddu 7. Benetti 8. P. Rossi
02. AngeloHenriquez/Stobzilla:- Fabio Capello- 1. F. Baresi 2. Gullit 3. Van Basten 4. Hierro 5. Totti 6. Samuel 7. Emerson 8. Boban
03. Jayvin:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. Davids 2. Kaka 3. Cannavaro 4. Shevchenko 5. Ashley Cole 6. Drogba 7. Thiago Silva 8. G. Buffon 9. Alonso
04. Paolo Di Canio:- Louis Van Gaal - 1. Rijkaard 2. Rivaldo 3. Guardiola 4. Ribéry 5. Kluivert 6. Blind 7. Van Bommel 8. Overmars 9 F. de Boer
05. Skizzo:- Udo Lattek - 1. Maradona 2. G. Müller 3. Breitner 4. Rummenigge 5. Augenthaler 6. Lerby 7. Roth 8. Stielike 9. J. Hansen
06. MJJ:- Marcello Lippi - 1. R. Baggio 2. Thuram 3. Del Piero 4. Vieri 5. Ferrara 6. Zambrotta 7. Conte 8.Deschamps 9. Zanetti
07. Joga Bonito:- Udo Lattek - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Schuster 3. Vogts 4. Brehme 5. Schwarzenbeck 6. Hoeneß 7. Bonhof 8. Wimmer 9. Sepp Maier
08. Balu/PedroMendez:- Béla Guttmann - 1. Bozsik 2. Puskás 3. C. Maldini 4. Grosics 5. Mauro Ramos 6. Coluna 7. Augusto 8. Eusebio 9. Joya
09. Raees:- Vicente Del Bosque - 1. Ronaldo 2. Figo 3. M. Laudrup 4. Seedorf 5. Sanchis 6. Helguera 7. L. Enrique 8. Iligner 9. I. Zamorano 12. Makelele
10. Cutch:- Alex Ferguson - 1. Beckham 2. Stam 3. Van Nistelrooy 4. Cantona 5. Ferdinand 6. Irwin 7. Schmeichel 8. G Neville 9. Keane
11. Gio:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Matthäus 2. Batistuta 3. Tardelli 4. Kohler 5. Cabrini 6. Reuter 7. Klinsmann 8. Passarella 9. Rivera
12. Edgar Allan Pillow:- Fabio Capello - 1. P. Maldini 2. Nedved 3. Redondo 4. Desailly 5. Savićević 6. Costacurta 7. Albertini 8. Donadoni 9. Panucci
13. The Red Viper:- Pep Guardiola - 1. Lahm 2. Robben 3. Puyol 4. Xavi 5. Iniesta 6. Henry 7. Piqué 8. Busquets 9. Messi
14. DanNistelrooy:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Nesta 3. Pirlo 4. Gattuso 5. Bale 6. Ibrahimovic 7. Di María 8. Terry 9. Ivanović
15. Annahnomoss:- Vanderlei Luxemburgo - 1. Zidane 2. Cafu 3. R. Carlos 4. Raul 5. Gamarra 6. Dida 7. Mauro Silva 8. Ze Roberto 9. Mazinho 10. Ronaldinho 11. Leonardao 12. Romario
16. Crappycraperson:- Rinus Michels - 1. Migueli 2. Cruyff 3. Neeskens 4. Krol 5. Asensi 6. Haan 7. Suurbier 8. Littbarski 9. Schumacher 12. Kiezer
02. AngeloHenriquez/Stobzilla:- Fabio Capello- 1. F. Baresi 2. Gullit 3. Van Basten 4. Hierro 5. Totti 6. Samuel 7. Emerson 8. Boban
03. Jayvin:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. Davids 2. Kaka 3. Cannavaro 4. Shevchenko 5. Ashley Cole 6. Drogba 7. Thiago Silva 8. G. Buffon 9. Alonso
04. Paolo Di Canio:- Louis Van Gaal - 1. Rijkaard 2. Rivaldo 3. Guardiola 4. Ribéry 5. Kluivert 6. Blind 7. Van Bommel 8. Overmars 9 F. de Boer
05. Skizzo:- Udo Lattek - 1. Maradona 2. G. Müller 3. Breitner 4. Rummenigge 5. Augenthaler 6. Lerby 7. Roth 8. Stielike 9. J. Hansen
06. MJJ:- Marcello Lippi - 1. R. Baggio 2. Thuram 3. Del Piero 4. Vieri 5. Ferrara 6. Zambrotta 7. Conte 8.Deschamps 9. Zanetti
07. Joga Bonito:- Udo Lattek - 1. Beckenbauer 2. Schuster 3. Vogts 4. Brehme 5. Schwarzenbeck 6. Hoeneß 7. Bonhof 8. Wimmer 9. Sepp Maier
08. Balu/PedroMendez:- Béla Guttmann - 1. Bozsik 2. Puskás 3. C. Maldini 4. Grosics 5. Mauro Ramos 6. Coluna 7. Augusto 8. Eusebio 9. Joya
09. Raees:- Vicente Del Bosque - 1. Ronaldo 2. Figo 3. M. Laudrup 4. Seedorf 5. Sanchis 6. Helguera 7. L. Enrique 8. Iligner 9. I. Zamorano 12. Makelele
10. Cutch:- Alex Ferguson - 1. Beckham 2. Stam 3. Van Nistelrooy 4. Cantona 5. Ferdinand 6. Irwin 7. Schmeichel 8. G Neville 9. Keane
11. Gio:- Giovanni Trapattoni - 1. Matthäus 2. Batistuta 3. Tardelli 4. Kohler 5. Cabrini 6. Reuter 7. Klinsmann 8. Passarella 9. Rivera
12. Edgar Allan Pillow:- Fabio Capello - 1. P. Maldini 2. Nedved 3. Redondo 4. Desailly 5. Savićević 6. Costacurta 7. Albertini 8. Donadoni 9. Panucci
13. The Red Viper:- Pep Guardiola - 1. Lahm 2. Robben 3. Puyol 4. Xavi 5. Iniesta 6. Henry 7. Piqué 8. Busquets 9. Messi
14. DanNistelrooy:- Carlo Ancelotti - 1. C. Ronaldo 2. Nesta 3. Pirlo 4. Gattuso 5. Bale 6. Ibrahimovic 7. Di María 8. Terry 9. Ivanović
15. Annahnomoss:- Vanderlei Luxemburgo - 1. Zidane 2. Cafu 3. R. Carlos 4. Raul 5. Gamarra 6. Dida 7. Mauro Silva 8. Ze Roberto 9. Mazinho 10. Ronaldinho 11. Leonardao 12. Romario
16. Crappycraperson:- Rinus Michels - 1. Migueli 2. Cruyff 3. Neeskens 4. Krol 5. Asensi 6. Haan 7. Suurbier 8. Littbarski 9. Schumacher 12. Kiezer
I think including the dates or ages of the players in the .jpg could be a good idea to push the idea of peaks on the voters. In my case "Ronaldinho(31yo)" or whatever so it is clear even for scan voters that the player is judged on that particular age.
What do you lads think? Of course the write-ups will go in depth with it all still.
What do you lads think? Of course the write-ups will go in depth with it all still.
What do you mean by .jpg, the tactics/lineup image?
Sharemytactics/footballuser/this11. It would be an idea to add the age of the player there behind their names, just a proposition though.
What about players who had a peak of several years under the manager though? I'd rather just explain it in the writeup.
Quick question, if I pick a fullback who mainly played on the left under my manager, but who was equally adept on either side, am I allowed to play him on the right?
Quick question, if I pick a fullback who mainly played on the left under my manager, but who was equally adept on either side, am I allowed to play him on the right?
Alright, I am fine either way!
There are no strict rules about it so it will be your decision at the end of the day. It will depend on the particular situation and how long he played under your manager and how easily he transitioned to operating on the other side. If your manager had him for 3 months, and prior to that he was playing on the other side then one can assume he'd easily switch back with no issues at all. If he played on the right week in week out for 14 years and was then expected to make a switch to the other side, chances of him playing exactly as good aren't very high at all.
I know that I sound like a hater (I am a bit, tbf, as I want my whole pool back
), but 75/76 season was probably the worst in his career - I'd took a few unpicked players before him, especially with his forwards. Only 14(22) matches too.And his average media rating (Gazzetta+Corriere+Tuttosport+Guerin) is 5.89, for what it's worth
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I know that I sound like a hater (I am a bit, tbf, as I want my whole pool back
And his average media rating (Gazzetta+Corriere+Tuttosport+Guerin) is 5.89, for what it's worth
Who cares? It's Gianni Rivera!