I genuinely think Woodward is as kneejerk as his fellow Cafe members.
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Man Utd set to appoint Director of Football (when hell freezes over)
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Replacing the manager is entertaining. And much less expensive than buying the players necessary to get us level with City.
Perhaps the whole summer of trying to work with him on transfers and then having his employee blasting him in the press on several occasions? Woodward strikes me as the type of man to have a fragile ego.
This isn't a bad idea, assuming his health holds up.
The biggest issue we've had is the transition from Fergie was horrendous. Maybe he can bring back some of what was missing and inject some stability into the backroom.
If he hire a director of football, who's to say that Woodward won't just override him with footballing decisions anyway?
Well said, but it fecking pisses me off so much, unfortunately we need to keep spending because nobody else is going to stop and if we don’t we will fall even further behind the likes of City which will then need a bigger investment than whats needed now.
As ive said before in this thread, nobody above Jose should be questioning anything he does because they know feck all and even if they did they should simply back him or sack him, not this in between shit we’re in now.
Not being funny here but Hicks and Gillet were a completely different kettle of fish.
For example.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2008/jan/16/newsstory.liverpool
Maybe signing new extension contract that would mean he becomes the head of the coaching, reducing his management powers over the club, or clause to sack him for not getting top 4. Jose has given 1 year extra on his contract with 1 years option, or to stop PSG sniffing. We really don't know anything behind the scene.
It's quite simple. Due to poor scouting/planning, we were 3 years behind City going into this window. To catch up, we had to spend at least 200m more than City and use these signings to replace key flaws in our team. We haven't and we're going to lose a significant amount of games this season. Why we should fans continue to pay for this? I think there should be a staged walkout in upcoming games at Old Trafford, starting with the Spurs game. This disgusting treatment of the fans can't go on any longer.
It made sense as he was flirting with Psg and without transfer backing A manager like Mourinho could quit himself putting top 4 in jeopardy with its financial stability which was a huge risk for Woodward . Bam new contract .
PSG would never have signed him. It was Mourinhos side who were leaking those stories and Ed being stupid fell for it. Just like he seems to fall for every player wanting a new contract from Barca or Madrid.
What ever, he is woodwards key for top 4 financial stability hence a new contract.
What do we genuinely think Ed is thinking here?
"What the feck is Jose doing with this team?"
"Maybe I should have bought that CB Jose asked for?"
"I've been made to look a right mug"
"That was unacceptable"
????
He's overdoing the 'I'm trying to appear really angry so that people believe this mess isn't my fault' look.
blaming woodward for mourinho not being able to coach a team full of players he has bought, to have basic competence, in his 3rd year, takes some doing
What about hiring managers who's style don't suit the players on disposal and then not getting the squad the current manager can get the best off?
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Woodward can be pretty naive. Why we seem to get fleeced on every negotiation. Not sure how some of our average players make 100k per week. Why it's mental that people want inexperienced ex-players to be our DoF.
Something about a short balding man doing that doesn't work.
I just wanna sit in the seat behind him with a whack-a-mole hammer.
It's your right to have that opinion, and parts are right im sure. Anybody could see how bad we were yesterday. Your intense opposition to mourinho is either clouding your judgement or youre just blisfully ignorant of the state of the club compared to other top ones. Woodward, in any other world, would be out of a job after overseeing years of failure that began before mourinho. Both can be to blame but it seems you want everybody to solely focus on mourinho because thats what you do
We are a very badly run club from a football perspective, the club has lost its soul and become a breeding ground of corporate and commercial greed which stems from the top! Yes ultimately the Glazers ARE actually our worst nightmare and their puppet Woodward is everything that they represent, yes the football under Mourinho isn't great but one suspects it won't be much better under anyone else either if the men in suits are more interested in the share price and the broadsheet!
a great manager, hell, even a good one, is supposed to work with the tools at their disposal. they are supposed to adapt and improve players.
Mourinho has spent north of £400M. How much more does he need? and again, this is his 3rd year. The team still lacks basic competence and cohesiveness.
Chelsea was what, 16th on the table when he left them? that is not an accident
And that's being polite - who else would have paid more than the release clause for Fellani? People will blame Moyes but Woodward is supposed to be able to negotiate to get the best deal for us.
Can't remember how the transfer played out but couldn't we have made Fellaini's release clause before it expired if Moyes didn't take a 3 week holiday?
Woodward needs to have some self awareness and realize that he needs help to make some of these decisions.
He needs to get an experienced football man in there to devise a proper strategy. Where are we? Where do we want to be in 5 years? How do we want to play? Which managers, coaching staff, scouts can enable us to do that? Which of our players are viable long term in that model? Which are not? And of course, identify and acquire the best talent available.
He needs to sign cheques, tell the football man how much money he has and then go off and get us our new noodle deal somewhere.
He needs to get an experienced football man in there to devise a proper strategy. Where are we? Where do we want to be in 5 years? How do we want to play? Which managers, coaching staff, scouts can enable us to do that? Which of our players are viable long term in that model? Which are not? And of course, identify and acquire the best talent available.
He needs to sign cheques, tell the football man how much money he has and then go off and get us our new noodle deal somewhere.
Getting 3 wrong managers in after SAF retired were the biggest mistake. Until we don't get in a manager who can make us play better and compete for the league, and also do well in the champions league, the club will be a laughing stock.
Opponents are loving the situation our club is in since SAF retired.
Opponents are loving the situation our club is in since SAF retired.
Correct. That was all on Moyes, as he had full knowledge of the situation.
Is that the voice of experience talking there?
Hit the nail on the head.
When is he taking up the role as caretaker manager?
I'm tempted to say yes, but common sense compells me to remind ourselves that we finished second in a very tough and competitive Premier league only some months ago and are playing in the Champions League. Finances are good. So we're not a total shambles.
So I reckon that the Milan clubs all score worse than us in that respect. Hell, Liverpool for all the love it gets from the media has not won anything of substance in over a decade.
Liverpool sold Coutinho, and used that money to buy Keita and VVD. I am sure they didn't want to sell Coutinho like we dont want to sell Pogba. Net spend in this context matters because Liverpool have less financial power and Klopp has done great work with that. Jose while having greater financial backing has failed to get the same bang for our buck.
I’m sick of hearing this phrase, or variants of back him or sack him. It’s not that binary, or black/ white - if only life were so simplistic.
We have given Jose lots of resource, but the pot is not unlimited and there are restrictions - that does NOT mean that the manager is not being backed. There are restrictions at every club, even City, Real, Barcelona.
Why hasn’t Poch been sacked this summer? If you only have two options, back him or sack him... had he got everything he wanted? Did Arsenal, did Chelsea, no? Did Pep get the midfielder he wanted, no. Should be sacked then.
If you take it to the extreme to show how ‘back him or sack him’ is such a basic, and quite frankly stupid measure... imagine Jose went to Ed and said I need Messi, Kane, Kante, Dembele, Toby and Marcelo this summer - what are the board going to do, back him or sack him?
I still harbor my own conspiracy theory suspicion that Moyes had a hush-hush handshake deal to wait and sign Fellaini until the end of the window when the price went up, so he could get a cut from Everton. That or he's just a deluded simpleton who thought he could feign ignorance and "do right" by his former club. He was a twat, so it could be either (but probably neither).
Moyes was completely deluded, pushing the joint Baines/ Fellaini deal - which Everton said no to from the very beginning. For most of the summer we could have signed Fellaini for his release clause, but Moyes wanted Baines as well. Only went back in at the last minute, when it was clear we were not going to sign anyone, and only after Fellaini himself game up £4m in loyality payments to push through the deal. The Fellaini debacle was 90% Moyes.
That's what Woodward's fault is ..hiring a manager and then expecting him to change his ways to suit the Style and tactics which are not suited to players at hand in the squad. Mourinho can't function without a stable defense and workhorse wide players and like every other manager he is too stubborn to mend his ways. We can be optimistic and wait for him to change but its also naive on our part that we keep hope he changes with the money we gave him. Changing playing styles 3 times in 5 years was a disaster no matter how much money you spend.
This summer, Woodward cut Mourinho’s throat and now he’s going to sit back and watch him slowly die. The team has turned into a headless chicken.
The sooner Woodward stops having anything to do with the football side of decisions, the better.
He is all about marketability, when what we really need is leadership and fight.
The sooner Woodward stops having anything to do with the football side of decisions, the better.
He is all about marketability, when what we really need is leadership and fight.
Should the yellow and green campaign be reignited? The board need to be sacked. We’re run so poorly.
Something needs to be done.
There are multiple threads about changing the manager with polls to say we’ve had enough.
It’s about time we had a Woodward out poll and hope that someone in power sees the resulting landslide!
We've gone from hating to loving him so many times in this thread 
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