Would argue that we don't need a DoF now, reasons being a DoF's job role is to sign players in line with the club's philosophy and plan the long term future of the club in the event the manager leaves in a couple of years. With Solskjær we have a manager who understands the club's philosophy more than the likes of a Monchi or Mislinat ever could, we'd have to hire an ex United player to come close to Ole's understanding. On top of that, Ole isn't going to go anywhere unless he's fired so we don't have to shoe horn a DoF in there just in case. The more variables we have at the top, the more scope for error.
Then the scouts will really need to do their jobs properly so we don't get suckered into thinking we are getting the next big thing. Keep well away from Bale etc. If we are planning for the future, then stick to that plan.I can sort of see how the last few months have made the suits at the club believe that we don't need a director of football.
There has been a lot of talk about the United way, perhaps they have realised the importance of our identity.
Providing we only hire managers who want to play fast attractive attacking football whilst giving youth a chance is there really any danger that a particular signing may not suit the next manager? Sticking to our 'philosophy' means that although managers have slight preferences, a player like Sancho will fit all our potential new managers because they will all be cut from the same clothe. Just a thought.
People were claiming that Mourinho was why we didnt hire a DoF, but months after Mourinho has been fired and still no DoF, the narrative has become we dont need one or wait to see what Ole would do.
Guess we can look forward to overpaying for more mediocre players and renewing the contracts for the ones we already have.
Then Ole is fired in 2 years and we are back to square one. Instead we should hire one now to work with Ole and learn as much about the club whilst we have a manager who gets it. This would ease the burden on the DOF in the short term whilst they get up to speed on what United is about. Also the connections and negotiation part Ole isn't going to bring and our current lot don't do a particularly good job.
This thread was started a year ago. How many years is needed to hire a DoF?Jesus christ. It's not even fecking April yet.
What if that person turns out to be a dud and gets fired too?
Jesus christ. It's not even fecking April yet.
U ok babe?Jesus christ. It's not even fecking April yet.
Well if we wait till Ole is gone to get the person in we are even further delayed from getting the structure right.
Don't forget a squad with a number of overpaid players on long contracts that we will not be able to sell, or get anything for. Which will be a problem for us in the coming years.
The problem I with this concept is that the assumption is that a DOF will sort out the structure of the club. This is primarily based on popular opinion and on no evidence whatsoever. I'd be interested to hear what your thoughts are about the job description of a DOF. What in your opinion is he meant to be doing? Dont get me wrong, there maybe a role for a so called technical director but this needs to be clearly defined. Less is sometimes more.
Anyone else had the email about Ole/renewing season tickets? Apparently Zebra finance pulled out of providing finance for season tickets for next season and the club are encouraging people to pay outright instead! Funny how that is being brushed under the carpet due to the manager announcement! Don’t expect a DOF chaps, Ed is a cnut.
The club is run by complete and utter cretins.
They're like a lead weight to this great club. No other top club has owners this incompetent and shit.
We won't get back to where we should be until they feck off.
The problem I with this concept is that the assumption is that a DOF will sort out the structure of the club. This is primarily based on popular opinion and on no evidence whatsoever. I'd be interested to hear what your thoughts are about the job description of a DOF. What in your opinion is he meant to be doing? Dont get me wrong, there maybe a role for a so called technical director but this needs to be clearly defined. Less is sometimes more.
Massively odd and naive that people think we don't need a DOF now just because we're going to focus on younger talent. There's much more to it than that.
You can still end up signing young players who don't fit the next managers system. So hiring managers with continuity in style of play is essential which would be part of the DOFs or sporting directors job. Its not just about scouting.
It’s not that we don’t need one, it’s just not as urgent. Identifying younger talent is harder, but also much easier to rectify if you get it wrong.
That man is currently already at the club mate, Marcel Bout.We now have a manager with no experience, we need to get someone in the role who has lots of experience and a vast knowledge of European leagues.
That man is currently already at the club mate, Marcel Bout.
The club is run by complete and utter cretins.
They're like a lead weight to this great club. No other top club has owners this incompetent and shit.
We won't get back to where we should be until they feck off.
I've read that Woodward vetoed Mourinho's targets like Perisic, Alderwereild, Willian etc on the advice of Marcel Bout.Seemingly his reports aren't being taken seriously. Woodward has shown to overrule footballing decisions for his bizzare own ideas.
I like Marcel Bout.I've read that Woodward vetoed Mourinho's targets like Perisic, Alderwereild, Willian etc on the advice of Marcel Bout.
I've read that Woodward vetoed Mourinho's targets like Perisic, Alderwereild, Willian etc on the advice of Marcel Bout.
The scout who recommended De Jong and De Ligt was someone else. Also it doesn't need anyone's recommendation to see someone like Varane who has won everything there is to win, will cost a ridiculous amount considering he's in his mid 20's and plays for a giant like Real Madrid.Didn't he also recommend De Ligt or De Jong? I'd be very surprised if he recommended Woody to reserve 100m for a player like Varane too.
The scout who recommended De Jong and De Ligt was someone else. Also it doesn't need anyone's recommendation to see someone like Varane who has won everything there is to win, will cost a ridiculous amount considering he's in his mid 20's and plays for a giant like Real Madrid.
Varane was a Mourinho target that Woodward was prepared to break the bank for. He was someone that fit into the profile of player the club would break the bank for being 24 and proven at the highest level. He of course wasn't available, but it didn't stop Mourinho having his former player as one of his targets.It doesn't take anyone's recommendation to know that Varane was (and likely still is) unattainable and we should have turned our heads to more achievable targets. We reportedly scoffed at a £75m for Škriniar and will likely pay the tune of that amount or more whenever we recruit at center back anyway. Alderweirald for £25m should be a no brainer, even if he's not at peak.
Having Marcel Bout doesn't suddenly mean we have a structure in place. The previous scout who identified De Ligt and De Jong (seems to be Derek Langley) was clearly not listened to despite numerous reports on each player.
Mourinhos targets were Maguire and Alderveireld which Ed vetoed and said Varane or nobody.Varane was a Mourinho target that Woodward was prepared to break the bank for. He was someone that fit into the profile of player the club would break the bank for being 24 and proven at the highest level. He of course wasn't available, but it didn't stop Mourinho having his former player as one of his targets.
I'm glad we scoffed at £75m for Skriniar, he's far too slow to shell a ridiculous sum on. Koulibaly would be ideal or Milenkovic or Andersen would represent better business in the long term. Alderweirald isn't the answer either, unless we want the problem of clearing more deadwood in the near future.
Derek Langley probably did recommend the two young Dutch kids but it doesn't mean we would've signed them. De Ligt for instance has been wanted by Bayern since he was 15 and he didn't want to leave his boyhood club, if Dutch media are to be believed. Fosu Mensah was regarded as just as big of a talent as De Ligt in the young Ajax teams and we signed him due to his family wanting the move.
Anyone else had the email about Ole/renewing season tickets? Apparently Zebra finance pulled out of providing finance for season tickets for next season and the club are encouraging people to pay outright instead! Funny how that is being brushed under the carpet due to the manager announcement! Don’t expect a DOF chaps, Ed is a cnut.
By all means are their clubs which are better run, yes, but lets not pretend other top clubs don't have their own issues. I'm not even against a DoF (in fact i'm for one in the right capacity) but lets not just do it just for the sake of it because there's an easy (but illogical & emotional) argument to make that Woodward is incompetent. What do they say about the grass being greener....
Amen.Woodward's reign has been a series of awful football decisions one after the other - to the point of it becoming comical.
Moyes, Rooney contracts, LvG / LvG sacking, Mourinho extension then don't back him, and poor signings throughout that don't fit and make no sense and have cost hundreds of millions of pounds to be chasing 4th.
The man has presided over the slide of Man Utd and is an utter joke in football circles.
He has been utterly incompetent.
Incredible to hear otherwise.
