Sven Mislinstat literally quit and Arsenal brought in Monchi within 4 weeks.
Their process took 4 fecking weeks.
Edit- Monchi not yet confirmed
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Man Utd set to appoint Director of Football (when hell freezes over)
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Their process took 4 fecking weeks.
Edit- Monchi not yet confirmed
This is a fabrication.
Wait, they got Monchi? That slipped under the radar.
How, so?
Arsenal have not signed Monchi.
Well it's looking likely isn't it
I think Solskjaers understanding of the club and values covers a lot of what we've craved in this thread. He plays attacking football, promotes youth and talks up the badge rather than bringing pessimism.
I also think Fergie is in his ear as something of a psuedo dof.
What I think we do lack is a decent negotiator and somebody with respect on the continent.
I also think Fergie is in his ear as something of a psuedo dof.
What I think we do lack is a decent negotiator and somebody with respect on the continent.
That's still not a confirmation.
The ideal appointment to be DOF would be to have someone who knows how the club operates when run at its best as in the mid 90s to early 10s. Someone who gets the structure of how it works, from the importance of signing top players but also knows signing and nurturing the youth is also as important. Someone who would know what is required to appoint the right manager with the ideals that should be the DNA of the club to keep the club running smoothly. Someone who would see it as a privilege rather than just a job.
Ole would also fit the role of DOF as well.
Ole would also fit the role of DOF as well.
Not yet confirmed just strong links mate
Hopefully we are wrong and they have already "agreed" with a DoF, already started with the incoming transfers, and they have a long term plan for what is going to happen to the squad in the coming years...
Said months ago this won't happen, and nothing i've seen has lead me to believe otherwise.
Monchi isn't strongly linked, you basically have one article from Marca that is used by everyone else. In the article they simply state that Arsenal wants him.
Guess we'll find out when the season is done
Monchi would be a steal for Arsenal, and us. But I'd be going for Paul Mitchell, though. Proven track record with Saints, Spurs and now Leipzig, Manchester-born and already admitted our interest in him is "very flattering". Go get him, Ed.
It’s the hope that kills you.
I think improving our scouting and coaching is more important. The heritage of the club is in itself a director of football. We demand attacking football, buying and bringing through young players and the right personality for playing and coaching staff.
If we can start buying top young players before they become hunted by all the clubs and get our coaching and tactics ahead of the curve, Ole himself can be the DoF like Fergie was.
I am still in support of getting a DoF but if we are hiring Ole full time I don't think it's critical before next season. We also need to find the right man for the job, not just whichever shiny name is available. We tried that with managers and players and it didn't work and it won't work with DoF.
If we can start buying top young players before they become hunted by all the clubs and get our coaching and tactics ahead of the curve, Ole himself can be the DoF like Fergie was.
I am still in support of getting a DoF but if we are hiring Ole full time I don't think it's critical before next season. We also need to find the right man for the job, not just whichever shiny name is available. We tried that with managers and players and it didn't work and it won't work with DoF.
Surly the club should be close to brining in a DoF now, it's March already. Whoever we bring will need time to asses the squad and get on with the transfers. As things stand though, it's not looking like we will bring someone in time for the summer, it's quite odd. Unless the plan is wait until the summer, which doesn't really make sense really.
Depends on what you're looking for, Roma fans seem to be in agreement he's done a poor job there so far. He seems ideal for the penny-pinching Arsenal board though, he must be Kronke's dream candidate.
Think we could promote Nicky Butt into that role and he’d do a good job. I feel that we have already agreed something with someone behind the scenes but are keeping it hush for now to concentrate on the Football season. Maybe Paul Mitchell?
I doubt Woodward was ever going to hire a DOF. The guy basks in attention and power.
I hope you are right. Perhaps they dont want the spotlight shifted from Ole whilst we are mainly winning matches. It could also be the one we want is under contract until the end of the season
Would it not be a tad risky to appoint someone whose only big club experience is 2.5 years at Spurs as Head of Recruitment? Especially if we’re appointing another inexperienced person as manager?
This is March, any concrete update?
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Maybe. But he would be coming highly-regarded by many across the continent with a good track record for talent so far - Alli, Trippier, Alderweireld, Lookman.
Of course it would be risky but so was promoting the Class of '92 - we're Manchester United, it's what we do
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Currently, I'd say we need a Head of Recruitment figure at the club aka the guy who knows which players fit with the club the best. OGS' short reign has highlighted just how bad our recruitment has been since Sir Alex (arguably even in SAF's last few seasons). All our big name signings are deemed the depth of the squad in Sanchez, Fred and Lukaku but really don't fit the style of play we want to play. OGS has done well to accommodate their styles as we're winning games with them in the XI. That's a pretty big red flag to our recruitment policy. Those three guys should be the ones scoring goals and heavily influencing games, and if they got injured it's a sizeable blow... but we're sitting here realising losing Sanchez is no big deal and it really isn't.
I still have a feeling that somethings going to happen with Sven Mislintat, considering the timing of Utd supposedly looking to revamp the structure of playing staff, then Mislintat out of nowhere quitting Arsenal after barely a year. There's been articles of Woodward trying to emulate the Dortmund model by trying to get Klopp and the whole Disneyland pitch. An article got unearthed from a year ago when OGS and Klopp met eachother in Spain while Molde and Liverpool were there. OGS said he had been trying to get Molde to emulate Klopp's Dortmund and Liverpool style of play. So I imagine OGS would welcome someone like Mislintat who was Dortmund's head of recruitment under Klopp's and Tuchel's tenures. Mislintat crucially also works with the academy which we probably want to tap into more after Rashford came through and the likes of Gomes, Chong, Garner and Greenwood on the periphery.
People are saying that since nothing's been announced yet then it's not going to happen... What if we've already made the appointment and can't announce anything yet? It wouldn't be too farfetched to think Mislintat is actually on gardening leave for the rest of the season and can't officially take up a potential Utd post until the season's done. That notion could also apply to any potential DoF-esque figure who's with their current club.
I still have a feeling that somethings going to happen with Sven Mislintat, considering the timing of Utd supposedly looking to revamp the structure of playing staff, then Mislintat out of nowhere quitting Arsenal after barely a year. There's been articles of Woodward trying to emulate the Dortmund model by trying to get Klopp and the whole Disneyland pitch. An article got unearthed from a year ago when OGS and Klopp met eachother in Spain while Molde and Liverpool were there. OGS said he had been trying to get Molde to emulate Klopp's Dortmund and Liverpool style of play. So I imagine OGS would welcome someone like Mislintat who was Dortmund's head of recruitment under Klopp's and Tuchel's tenures. Mislintat crucially also works with the academy which we probably want to tap into more after Rashford came through and the likes of Gomes, Chong, Garner and Greenwood on the periphery.
People are saying that since nothing's been announced yet then it's not going to happen... What if we've already made the appointment and can't announce anything yet? It wouldn't be too farfetched to think Mislintat is actually on gardening leave for the rest of the season and can't officially take up a potential Utd post until the season's done. That notion could also apply to any potential DoF-esque figure who's with their current club.
I wouldn't be too bothered about holding off on appointing a DOF. It look's like Ole will be in charge next season. I'd leave him to get on with things & see what happens. This all on the understanding that Ed stays away from football matters.
That a good shout whoever it is. It would make a lot of sense why nothing has happened since Woody said thats the route we are going down, otherwise why mention it?
Have to agree with this. Ed makes those calls and Ole will make it clear who he wants and be more involved than Jose or the other two were, assuming he’s given the job. Which he will be.
Imagine Sir Alex being dictated to by a DoF, anyone who knows the history of the club and what it means to be Manchester United will also know that the job as manager is not merely to manage the team on a Saturday.
Ole has it all I believe.
I personally don't get the obsession with a Director of Football.
Surely a scouting network can assess both managers and players. The chief scout consolidates this and then surely his job is very similar to a Director of Football in the sense of agreeing the best way forward, negotiating deals, etc.
A DOF would need to work with a manager to agree gaps and requirements. So would a chief scout. A DOF might work with the CEO to discuss manager options, but so too could a chief scout.
What can a DOF do that a chief scout/ head of recruitment or whatever title you want to give couldn't do. Negotiating might be one of them, but that's what a commercial manager or CEO can do.
Surely a scouting network can assess both managers and players. The chief scout consolidates this and then surely his job is very similar to a Director of Football in the sense of agreeing the best way forward, negotiating deals, etc.
A DOF would need to work with a manager to agree gaps and requirements. So would a chief scout. A DOF might work with the CEO to discuss manager options, but so too could a chief scout.
What can a DOF do that a chief scout/ head of recruitment or whatever title you want to give couldn't do. Negotiating might be one of them, but that's what a commercial manager or CEO can do.
A dof coordinatee everything including style of play (to an extent). Look at the mess of a squad we've got (partly resolved) from having 3 different managers who wanted different styles of players. Compare it to city who had a vision for peps style before he joined.
Managers can be appointed to fit in as well as players then.
We need something, whatever title they give him. Whoever has been making decisons or negotiating, managers, some contracts and player recruitment have been poor. Mainly the choice of manager.
Should this just become SAF if it’s not too much work for him?
Our style is the United way. Stick to that from now.
I too would have questioned that a few years ago. However with the club as a global brand and one of the leading sports institutions in the world, I think we have to move with the times.
It's just too big a job for one man to carry on his own. Two men even. When you have clubs employing movement coaches and 'off the ball' coaches, you can see where we're heading. We have 4 people alongside Ole on the bench. When SAF was appointed it was Kidd and the physio. Now it's two coaches, GK coach,Fitness coach etc.
The scouting network is only one part of it these days. Woody is more of a commercial director anyway;he's not a football man in the sense of identifying players etc.
I agree. Maybe not "very good squad", maybe I would lose the "very" but that is semantics. I argued at the time it was a good squad to hand over, it had quality, it had youth and experience. There were some weaknesses that needed strengthening but I thought that was a good thing as well as it gave an incoming manager an opportunity to mould the team into his own. I know SAF was a genius and got the most out of players but the idea that a team that had just won the league comprised predominantly poor players is just nonsense, to my mind.
There was always going to be a vacuum after SAF left and that was always going to make those few years difficult. But we did not have bad players.
And if Ole fails then we'll be in even dipper shit than we are now. It looks like Ole is going to be great for us, but so it looked with Mourinho and Van Gaal at the beginning.
A DoF is a safecheck in the manager. He is desperately needed at United, be it with Ole as manager or with someone else.
I think the primary role of the DoF for major clubs in the modern game has become to maintain close relationships with the so-called ‘super agents’. If you want the best players, they’re often the key, annoyingly.
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