Man Utd set to appoint Director of Football (when hell freezes over)

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I'd have a pretty good stab at convincing him never mind Ed. That's his job. It was a mistake on our part not going for it. And given how we made it more than obvious re everyone we went for last summer.....we could have courted him in the same way......not getting him from a strategy point of view for me is 2nd only to letting Pep go to City.....Ed knew he wasnt gonna back Mou by then...he could have moved swiftly for ZZ and go from there with Ronaldo. We just aren't quite as dynamic as our rivals right now in terms of our disjointed approach.

I have been overly critical for Ed recently but actually can't think he could have done much here. TBH I never believed Ronaldo ever wanted to return here once SAF retired. He was using our name mostly as a sort of pressure on Madrid to solve his tax problems or give him a new contract. It also makes sense for him at this age to join an established team as Juve and try to solidify his legacy by dominating a third country rather than rejoining a falling team that looks very, very far away from winning something big.

I don't think Ronlado even think twice about returning to United. There was no reason to.
 
Then why did he not move for Ronaldo.....bringing the prodigal son home. In terms of everything he desires on the publicity front...Neymar doesn't really come close.
It could also be that Ronaldo maybe did not want to come to United either and was set on a move to Juve ever since he got the standing ovation from their fans for "that" goal. I have a strange feeling that is why we went for a Sanchez in January. It did not seem like a Jose signing, it got Pogba cheesed off and talking crap about not being able to say what he feels for fear of being fired, etc etc.
 
I have been overly critical for Ed recently but actually can't think he could have done much here. TBH I never believed Ronaldo ever wanted to return here once SAF retired. He was using our name mostly as a sort of pressure on Madrid to solve his tax problems or give him a new contract. It also makes sense for him at this age to join an established team as Juve and try to solidify his legacy by dominating a third country rather than rejoining a falling team that looks very, very far away from winning something big.

I don't think Ronlado even think twice about returning to United. There was no reason to.

I'm glad you weren't doing the persuading ha.

This is still Man united and what's more romantic than him coming home. You should never go back but history is littered with examples of those that do. Most humans feel that. I get Juve been a very credible draw. Hell I watched the game! But with a different manager, the stage is set here for him to bring a club back to glory. Reminds me of Sean Connery (diff scenario ok) talking about going back to a place......."most people know it's right to go back...because you are needed, but very few go back to fix whats broken, because thats always the biggest challenge in life". Being a romantic, you go back, you test yourself to be that guy once more when everything says you can't! Juve was the easier option, the intelligent choice.......but feck me they don't make movies about that kinda story!

PS. there was every reason to return! Returning to a team top and winning....you'd be right.
Tell me when I'm rambling.......
 
I'd have a pretty good stab at convincing him never mind Ed. That's his job. It was a mistake on our part not going for it. And given how we made it more than obvious re everyone we went for last summer.....we could have courted him in the same way......not getting him from a strategy point of view for me is 2nd only to letting Pep go to City.....Ed knew he wasnt gonna back Mou by then...he could have moved swiftly for ZZ and go from there with Ronaldo. We just aren't quite as dynamic as our rivals right now in terms of our disjointed approach.

I doubt Zidane would have done what is basically quitting Real for the United job. He wasn't coming here last summer (if he's at all interested now or for the future).
 
I doubt Zidane would have done what is basically quitting Real for the United job. He wasn't coming here last summer (if he's at all interested now or for the future).

I thought he left Real and was free last summer as in 3 months back?
 
United are a very big club, but we have very average players in many positions, our problem seems to be in the identifcation of players who can actually play the game. We do tend to try and sign players who already have made a name for themselves elsewhere. But would it not be a better idea to sign the scouts and coaches from the clubs who actually discover these players. Look at Dortmund ffs.? We do not have to spend millions on has beens( yes he is finished) like Sanchez. We need to identify the players who are up and coming and not the players who are finished.
 
Surely that wouldn't matter!

Or that's what some people are trying to say - that Woodward would sign players the manager does not want or ask for if they can be profitable enough.

Thats what Ed should be like if he's playing the DoF role. On the club front it was the right move. Hence it's the move that should have been made!!
You don't let a man you are thinking of replacing have the final say on such a move......
 
United are a very big club, but we have very average players in many positions, our problem seems to be in the identifcation of players who can actually play the game. We do tend to try and sign players who already have made a name for themselves elsewhere. But would it not be a better idea to sign the scouts and coaches from the clubs who actually discover these players. Look at Dortmund ffs.? We do not have to spend millions on has beens( yes he is finished) like Sanchez. We need to identify the players who are up and coming and not the players who are finished.

He's not finished. He's playing poorly as per everyone else. Common theme so it's hardly just his problem. Guaranteed for city he'd look himself....everyone is finished once they pull on a United jersey right now. This is a guy who would pull up trees when all around him wouldn't at Arsenal! He's just lost his mojo alongside the rest of the squad playing in a position on the pitch he's never played previously...left wing sitting on his own half way line having to run past 2-3 players to get near the goal!
 
He was, but I doubt he was going to take any job last summer. Joining United would have essensially been as if he left one role for the other.

That makes no sense whatsoever. Biggest job in the world comes up (besides the one he just left) and you think he wouldn't be interested. What kind of a dead human being is that!
 
I'm glad you weren't doing the persuading ha.

This is still Man united and what's more romantic than him coming home. You should never go back but history is littered with examples of those that do. Most humans feel that. I get Juve been a very credible draw. Hell I watched the game! But with a different manager, the stage is set here for him to bring a club back to glory. Reminds me of Sean Connery (diff scenario ok) talking about going back to a place......."most people know it's right to go back...because you are needed, but very few go back to fix whats broken, because thats always the biggest challenge in life". Being a romantic, you go back, you test yourself to be that guy once more when everything says you can't! Juve was the easier option, the intelligent choice.......but feck me they don't make movies about that kinda story!

PS. there was every reason to return! Returning to a team top and winning....you'd be right.
Tell me when I'm rambling.......

Romance isn't a good reason to join a failing club let's be honest.

Ronaldo is 33. Why should he choose a risky move for a club like United when there's an established club like Juve wanting him ? He's not a youngster and don't have anything to prove. He just wants more trophies, more success and chance to win CL witha third time.

Every reasonable reaaon says Juve was the better choice for him. No player will think about romantic choices when he's moving to a new club.
 
That makes no sense whatsoever. Biggest job in the world comes up (besides the one he just left) and you think he wouldn't be interested. What kind of a dead human being is that!

He had a bloody huge job at former club Real Madrid - a job that he probably considers bigger than United - and he just chose to walk away from it. The guy is hardly desperate for work.
 
I assume this is tongue in cheek?
Sadly not. I suspect that resale value has become a highly important element of many clubs' transfer policies in recent times; I'd be surprised if we were any different.
 
Now you've said it, it'll be read by the various idiot journalists prowling the caf. Expect your wishes to be fulfilled soon.
Oooh, I wait with bated breath. I reckon Custis will be the first to shoot his load. Maybe we could get a poll on this?
 
Evra goes with Woodward because Woodward's wife has stopped going. Evra is there to protect Woodward from abuse he's received at games. Apparently it's not worked :devil:
 
I was asking myself this question today.
When evaluating managerial performances, does anyone think he considers the quality of football on offer? Or he simply looks at metrics he can quantify, like league position, number of goals etc.
I was thinking that a lot of us are unhappy about the unwatchable football but Woodward might be non plused about that and his only concern is that we are 10th.
If that's the case, there's no reason to think the next guy isn't just another results oriented guy who gives no fecks about attacking football.
 
“Manchester United are recognised for being one of the biggest clubs in the world.
“So any link with a club of that size, history and status is very flattering and I am a Manchester boy.
“There hasn't been any contact with United at this moment, for me it’s always about focusing on the job in hand.
“I’m more than aware I work for a great organisation, but then like always you never know in football what can happen in the future.”

https://www.goal.com/en/amp/news/rb...tchell-flattered-by/j6umkv3mswwl1hqe6bv61kirq
 
Mitchell would be fantastic. I think we have a lost a bit of Britishness in our squad, hopefully someone like him could bring that back in...if we recruited him.
 
This is so Manchester United. Announce in August plans for a DoF. Approaching November, oh look, no DoF.
It's almost as if they haven't a fecking clue how to go forward.
 
I think we are desperate for DOF.

Seems to be some good candidates out there reading through this thread.

The lack of action/forward thinking/planning from our owners is worrying. Almost as if they are happy where we are.
 
Paratici would be great however I doubt he'll come to United as he had already committed his allegiance at Juventus. If you ask me we should bring in Les Reed from Southampton. He knows the EPL well and he's quite experienced in his role. I would also suggest Mitchell as head of recruitment. With those two on board then we can seriously consider bringing Poch as Mou's replacement.
 
Still would prefer Evra, but appreciate going for the guy with Experience in the field. Him and Poch would work well. Hopefully we will see more Pulisic type recommendations.
 
The next time we shall hear about this DOF hiring, will be when we have another disastrous transfer window or if he is forced to fire Jose before the season ends (ie. he got another managerial appointment wrong, in quick succession).
The DOF statement is issued by the club, when things go wrong and to keep the press/fans quiet.

Woodward is not going to give up the power without being forced into it. And by "forced", I mean when things go disastrously wrong. There is absolutely no reason for Woodward to give up power/authority to a DOF.
 
Paratici would be great however I doubt he'll come to United as he had already committed his allegiance at Juventus. If you ask me we should bring in Les Reed from Southampton. He knows the EPL well and he's quite experienced in his role. I would also suggest Mitchell as head of recruitment. With those two on board then we can seriously consider bringing Poch as Mou's replacement.

I've been impressed with Southampton and the production line of talented footballers for a while, but their more recent recruitment doesn't seem all that. I wonder what's gone wrong.
 
Woodward is not going to give up the power without being forced into it. And by "forced", I mean when things go disastrously wrong. There is absolutely no reason for Woodward to give up power/authority to a DOF.
Alternatively, Woodward wanted to keep the system which had worked so well where we gave the manager much more power than they get at pretty much any other top club. After Moyes, LVG and likely Mourinho have failed, he realises that it's time to 'modernise' and bring in a DoF or similar position.

Just as likely as your thoughts.
 
This mythical, mystery DOF who's going to make a lot of great signings and everything will be fine.

We need someone like Gary Neville who understands the ethos of the club and has a vision going forward. Some random wanker from Southampton will be overwhelmed by it all.

And then GNev helps pick the coach. If he doesn't think Mourinho is right then fair enough but he'd get rid of the circus and back the coach until the time was right.

Neville would want Pochettino in my opinion. I'm not a massive fan but I'd back it because there would be more of a long term vision about what was needed to be achieved.
 
If it was up to Gary, we'd still have David Moyes in charge. He's not got the mindset to have an important role such as DOF at the club, he's far too emotionally invested for it to work.
 
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