Man Utd board warming to Inter Milan boss Mourinho

Who should replace SAF after he retires ?

  • Jose Mourinho

    Votes: 270 58.1%
  • Laurent Blanc

    Votes: 61 13.1%
  • Steve Bruce

    Votes: 8 1.7%
  • Roy Keane

    Votes: 4 0.9%
  • Ole Gunnar Solskjaer

    Votes: 25 5.4%
  • Fabio Capello

    Votes: 10 2.2%
  • Pep Guardiola

    Votes: 8 1.7%
  • Arsene Wenger

    Votes: 5 1.1%
  • Mark Hughes

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • David Moyes

    Votes: 17 3.7%
  • Gus Hiddink

    Votes: 9 1.9%
  • Ottmar Hitzfeld

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Eric Cantona

    Votes: 12 2.6%
  • Alec McCleish

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • Frank Rijkaard

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Louis Van Gaal

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Mike Phelan

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • Carlos Quieroz

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Dick Advocaat

    Votes: 4 0.9%
  • Harry Redknapp

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • Marcello Lippi

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Martin O'Neill

    Votes: 19 4.1%

  • Total voters
    465
  • Poll closed .
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Thing is Mourinho's a winner, whatever way you look at it. Give him the job and we've got as much chance as we could of winning the title the next year. He doesn't feel the need to make sacrifices in the short-term to benefit the long-term that so many others (a lot of the time unnecessarily) do. The media doesn't matter to him, he couldn't care less if he was hated by many because chances are he'll be loved by the ones that matter - the supporters, the players, the coaches - he'll get the job done.

He might not be reliable as a long-term manager, but then you don't get people like Sir Alex and Wenger growing on trees, and even then there's a good chance if they started their career at the same time as Mourinho they'd have struggled to find long-term stability just as easily with the owners and money in the game. He's talked about settling down, he has talked about this club very well, and he's young enough(almost 25 years younger than our current manager!) to stay 10 years and then move on to conquer his next challenge in Spain or for Portugal.

I don't know a lot about him, I don't know a lot about all managers though. There's been talk about how he approaches football management in this revolutionary way combining psychology and sports science in a way that's never been done before, but I've not a clue nor do I care. I do know he's a successful manager, chances are he'll continue to be, and I'll be surprised if he doesn't go down as one of the best managers of his generation. I'd like someone like that to manage us, even if he doesn't stay for his entire career.

I'm sceptical about whether he actually cares all that much about this club, I'm sceptical about whether he's genuinely thinking about settling down - I mean, he doesn't have to considering his age and chances are Madrid will want him at some point, maybe Galactico's III once he's managed us for a few years? - and I'm sceptical about how likely he is to adapt his game to keep us playing the level of attacking football we've grown accustomed to under Sir Alex, but he's the standout choice for me.

I think he'd do the job well. I can't confidently say that about anyone else.
 
Who the feck chose Capello....?

Me - although just to clarify I am choosing on the basis that Fergie retires this summer

Capello takes England to the World Cup Final and then takes over the Old Trafford hotseat - perfect !
 
Me - although just to clarify I am choosing on the basis that Fergie retires this summer

Capello takes England to the World Cup Final and then takes over the Old Trafford hotseat - perfect !




Capellos not really one if your looking for longevity though..dont see him being in management for to much longer much like Hiddink…otherwise theyd be two very big candidates i think.
 
Lippi's not getting the job though.

Just because he as much chance as 10 other people who have 0.00000000001% of taking over doesn't make him someone who's been forgotten, just someone who doesn't really matter.

Half of them don't matter, but does it really matter? There are a few viable options, he's not one of them.
 
Capellos not really one if your looking for longevity though..dont see him being in management for to much longer much like Hiddink…otherwise theyd be two very big candidates i think.

Yes that is true - both Capello and Hiddink are only a few years younger than Fergie - but if either can manage 3/4 seasons then that would help to steady the ship after Lord Fergie calls it a day.

O'Neill should probably be on the current list ahead of some of the given names - of current Premier League managers, I would say he is the only one in with a chance.

Out of interest, few years back when we thought Fergie was leaving my list of 3 was Hitzfeld, Hiddink, ONeill.
 
Lippi's not getting the job though.

Just because he as much chance as 10 other people who have 0.00000000001% of taking over doesn't make him someone who's been forgotten, just someone who doesn't really matter.

Half of them don't matter, but does it really matter? There are a few viable options, he's not one of them.

...apparently it does....
 
He'd be my second choice, considering he's realistic and has enough about him to be a success.

Has not done shit in the EPL, reminds me a bit of a Benitez albeit with a bit class and better thacthics
 
Lippi's not getting the job though.

Just because he as much chance as 10 other people who have 0.00000000001% of taking over doesn't make him someone who's been forgotten, just someone who doesn't really matter.

Half of them don't matter, but does it really matter? There are a few viable options, he's not one of them.

lippi IMO is as qualified as any of the lot there, is younger than capello and hiddink....extremely good mates with SAF.

i agree that he wouldn't have a good chance of getting the spot, most probably because he doesn't want come to england or even speak english...but if it were me, he'd probably be my top choice if SAF walked in the summer.
 
Has not done shit in the EPL, reminds me a bit of a Benitez albeit with a bit class and better thacthics

Doing nothing in the EPL isn't any worse than doing just alright in the EPL, which would be most of the British managers in there, though.

He's won the league with three clubs in Italy and one in Spain. Benitez had won the league with one club in Spain.

Not quite the same.
 
Yes that is true - both Capello and Hiddink are only a few years younger than Fergie - but if either can manage 3/4 seasons then that would help to steady the ship after Lord Fergie calls it a day.

O'Neill should probably be on the current list ahead of some of the given names - of current Premier League managers, I would say he is the only one in with a chance.

Out of interest, few years back when we thought Fergie was leaving my list of 3 was Hitzfeld, Hiddink, ONeill.



David moyes? Still O'Neill would be good if for nothing more than his touchline antics...can you imagine how many lunatic impressions hed be doing with the amount of late goals we score...
 
lippi is twice the manager capello is.

That's debatable but Capello speaks English and now has a good grounding in the English game so would be my first choice.

Probably Jose 2nd and Martin O'Neill 3rd.

I would be reluctant to take anyone without experience of English football
 
A lot of those late goals are scored in Fergie time :devil: ...which will be called United time after he leaves
 
I think Guus will be in with a shout when the time comes if he still is managing in 10 years when SAF retires
 
David moyes?

I have seen nothing from Moyes to suggest he has what it takes to make the step up to manage us.

It is difficult for him though as he has taken Everton about as far as they can go - without more cash behind him he cant really progress.
 
I have seen nothing from Moyes to suggest he has what it takes to make the step up to manage us.

It is difficult for him though as he has taken Everton about as far as they can go - without more cash behind him he cant really progress.




Don’t get me wrong he wouldn’t be my choice or even close to it either but out of the current premier league managers in with a shout he would probably be as high as any on the ’potentials’ list...he’s highly regarded by Sir Alex and with the old Trafford hierarchy by all accounts...

Who knows by the time the job becomes vacant Guadiola may be looking to test himself overseas...still a way to go before Fergie packs it in i feel.
 
I have seen nothing from Moyes to suggest he has what it takes to make the step up to manage us.

It is difficult for him though as he has taken Everton about as far as they can go - without more cash behind him he cant really progress.

I completely agree for you he would crack under the pressure at United let's not forget this is the biggest job in club football. And the manager after SAF will be under Real style pressure
 
That's debatable but Capello speaks English and now has a good grounding in the English game so would be my first choice.

Probably Jose 2nd and Martin O'Neill 3rd.

I would be reluctant to take anyone without experience of English football


Capello and Lippi, whilst both very accomplished and top of the range managers that they be - are nearly as old as Fergie ! Both have excellent pedigree but age is not on their side to replace Fergie and I do believe Capello has declared England will be his last job.....
 
why do people keep mentioning O'Neill for fecks sake?

Because he is best of the current British managers and many would prefer a Brit to a foreigner - he won tropheys even with a nothing club like Leicester and is one of few Brits with a decent European track record having got Celtic to a European final.


because we all love ourselves a norn-irishlad :D.

in seriousness though..i concur with johnno..MON ffs.

if you have to stick with british with prem experience, brucey all the way.

What has Bruce done to deserve the biggest job in English football? He has never won anything as a manager - not even close in fact.
I am glad to see him starting well at Sunderland - if he can push on with them and break into Europe then we can start talking about him as a potential replacement.


Anyway landslide for Maureen - I knew he would be the popular choice but didnt expect it to be so clear!
 
My argument for Blanc is partly due to the fact I don't want Mourinho at Old Trafford. I wouldn't hate him, but I wouldn't be over the moon with the appointment of a man I used to think was arrogant and overrated.

My pro reasons for Blanc:

In the two years he's managed (two and a half now) he's done a stupendous job at Bordeaux. In his first season he got them from a nothing team to second, and won manager of the year, whilst last year he finally overthrew Lyon to win the first French Premier League outside of Lyon in 8 years. He not only won that though, he won the French cup, the French winners cup twice (I assume however this is only the French League charity shield) and this year has navigated out of a tricky Champions League group, the first time ever in Bordeauxs history.

I'm thinking Fergie will retire in two years time. After this period, I expect him still to be heavily involved at the running of the club. Fergie has spoke before of how he still often speaks to Blanc, and he even made an offer to make Blanc his number 2 when Quieroz left. I think it's safe to say if he had, then Blanc would be one of the very few favorites now for the job. I think he is one flukey win away from getting Bordeaux into the next round of the Champions League, at which point a lot of people around Europe may start taking notice.
 
My argument for Blanc is partly due to the fact I don't want Mourinho at Old Trafford. I wouldn't hate him, but I wouldn't be over the moon with the appointment of a man I used to think was arrogant and overrated.

My pro reasons for Blanc:

In the two years he's managed (two and a half now) he's done a stupendous job at Bordeaux. In his first season he got them from a nothing team to second, and won manager of the year, whilst last year he finally overthrew Lyon to win the first French Premier League outside of Lyon in 8 years. He not only won that though, he won the French cup, the French winners cup twice (I assume however this is only the French League charity shield) and this year has navigated out of a tricky Champions League group, the first time ever in Bordeauxs history.

I'm thinking Fergie will retire in two years time. After this period, I expect him still to be heavily involved at the running of the club. Fergie has spoke before of how he still often speaks to Blanc, and he even made an offer to make Blanc his number 2 when Quieroz left. I think it's safe to say if he had, then Blanc would be one of the very few favorites now for the job. I think he is one flukey win away from getting Bordeaux into the next round of the Champions League, at which point a lot of people around Europe may start taking notice.

I voted for Blanc. Hopefully he continues to have success with Bordeaux. A few more trophies, and he would be my number 1 candidate.
 
Come on, I've been making points throughout this whole fecking thread mate!

I believe his management prowess is overhyped due to his lucky run to the UEFA Cup Final which Porto won.
He then took over at Chelsea, the first club to be given UNLIMITED transfer funds by the owner ever.
A club whom had finished second the previous season and reached the UEFA CL semis, beating the 'unbeatable' Arsenal en route, evidently a very good side already been built by Ranieri, Vialli and even Gullit before them.
He was allowed to bring in additional players which cemented an excellent squad from an already very good squad, something I'm sure Ranieri would have also done no doubt.
United were in transition and had no Van Nistelrooy with his first long term Man United injury (he wouldn't play consistently throughout the whole season), had a skeletal midfield playing Djemba-Djemba and Miller and even Alan Smith.
Arsenal had a lacklustre season with Bergkamp winding down, Pires ordinary and Vieira the shadow of his former self, possibly due to rumours he was off to Real all year but it was hard for Arsenal to top the 2003-04 season obviously having been unbeaten.
When United reassembled and reaserted their squad, we won the league fairly easily in 2006-07.
Chelsea lost a few games early in 2007-08 and ultimately Mourinho cracked and fecked off (or was pushed), shows a lack of managerial strength to me that.
He then took on the role with Inter, another very wealthy side, not exactly a challenge considering Juventus and Milan were in decline.
Mourinho's had a habit of not getting on with his chairmen, at Benfica, at Chelsea and now at Inter where he clashes with Moratti regularly - what's to say the OT board want someone who will most certainly clash with them?
He's had a habit of not staying at clubs in his career (so far) no more than three seasons. Someone pointed out they were basically promotions. Benfica to (can't remember, smaller Portuegese club?), then to Porto, then to Chelsea, then to Inter in less nine years. They may be career progression but again, it shows instability - we do not want a quick fix, we want a continuance of our empire. Genghis Khan handed down the dynasty to his sons and their sons and their sons for generations and generations, they did not pass it on to Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime the Mongulator next door who had issues, he kept it going to ensure the way of life (ie - style of play) and tradition. Mourinho will disrupt the club and players.
Is that enough for you?

Quite lame. I suppose United's run in 1998/99 was lucky as was Terry's slip in 2008. So according to your opinion, SAF won two European Cups because of luck and not great management skills. Which also then renders the last two league titles as not so great since Chelsea have been in "transition," Aresnal have been rebuilding, and Liverpool are quite hit-and-miss.
 
Incredible, to me, that over 75% of the vote on here, a United forum, should go to Mourinho... I just don't see him as a United manager.

Anyone else hear someone say the other week on the Times podcast that Mourinho would be far better suited to being a Liverpool manager than a United manager?

I'd far, far rather the job eventually goes to someone like David Moyes for the long, long term... I could take some of the other candidates as a stop gap solution to fill the enormous power vacuum left by SAF's departure, but then I'd like to see us make an appointment meant for the long term and give that person as much time and as many chances as we gave SAF.
 
Incredible, to me, that over 75% of the vote on here, a United forum, should go to Mourinho... I just don't see him as a United manager.
Anyone else hear someone say the other week on the Times podcast that Mourinho would be far better suited to being a Liverpool manager than a United manager?

I'd far, far rather the job eventually goes to someone like David Moyes for the long, long term... I could take some of the other candidates as a stop gap solution to fill the enormous power vacuum left by SAF's departure, but then I'd like to see us make an appointment meant for the long term and give that person as much time and as many chances as we gave SAF.

I totally agree. There is something I just don't like (there are lots I do like about him and the way his teams play) which really has me not wanting him to replace Fergie. I think maybe it's the way he has flaunted himself in the press for a job back in England. If that was a player we would probably not want him here so why a manager. Would he be here for the long period we all wish for?
 
Remember : Mourinho are you listening ? You'd better keep your trophy glistening ! Coz we'll be back in May to take it away , walking in a Fergie WONDERLAND :D

Memories of that fantastic season ...

I love that chant.
 
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