A bit better than last year also 'cause he has chosen a more low-profile approach. But he gets criticism whatever he does, for example he called a press silence before Saturday's game vs Juve to avoid useless banter and controversy and he's getting criticism because of this decision.
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A bit better than last year also 'cause he has chosen a more low-profile approach. But he gets criticism whatever he does, for example he called a press silence before Saturday's game vs Juve to avoid useless banter and controversy and he's getting criticism because of this decision.
Europe is the key for you though as you have established domestic dominance.
Exactly, next Wednesday's game vs Rubin Kazan will be decisive.
Larry White is the only player with the potential to do it, although its far too early. Mourniho is clearly the only manager who can do it.
So there's only two people in the world capable of being the manager of manchester United, except one of them isn't ready? So actually, just one...
Actually, neither of those statements are remotely true...
Did i say that ? Or did i say the only [former] player ?
You said the only player, Blanc, and the only manager - Mourinho.
Unless you're thinking of recruiting someone who is neither a football manager or a former player to succeed SAF, I think you're suggesting only two people can do the job.
Read the previous posts in this thread. The entire discussion is about Mourniho v a series of other [mostly] former United players.
guardiola is a very very dark horse since he seems to always hint that he doesn't want to stay at barca long. however he would'nt stay at united long either..his thinking is that coaches get stale after a max 5 years or so.
quite frankly if we got 7-10 years out of our next gaffer, it would be stupendous.
quite frankly if we got 7-10 years out of our next gaffer, it would be stupendous.
Van Basten looked like he had the minerals for it after some lovely football with the Dutch at last year's Euros, then had a shit showing with Ajax immediately after. Very dissapointing. I must say I got a bit giddy at the prospect of his football at United, albeit a brief glimpse at that tournament as that's what I'd like to see at Old Trafford, and I don't think we've ever had a bad Dutch player at United either, Cruyff had his critics but he was a decent squad player.
Blanc will bring a player's experience whereas Mourinho is pure management. Blanc was a defender AND a striker unusually so can bring that balance of defence and attack. He has also had experience in Spain, Italy, France and England as a player so his knowledge of each competition is immense...oh yeah, and he won the World Cup too.
Blanc seems to be hitting the right notes for me, he has a good balance of midfield in getting the best out of Gourcuff (something Ancelotti could not), a good strike force with Chamakh highly regarded and touted by the Premiership clubs and a strong defence.
Blanc will bring a player's experience whereas Mourinho is pure management. Blanc was a defender AND a striker unusually so can bring that balance of defence and attack. He has also had experience in Spain, Italy, France and England as a player so his knowledge of each competition is immense...oh yeah, and he won the World Cup too.
Blanc seems to be hitting the right notes for me, he has a good balance of midfield in getting the best out of Gourcuff (something Ancelotti could not), a good strike force with Chamakh highly regarded and touted by the Premiership clubs and a strong defence.
The comment was in reference to a poster or two stating Mourinho doesn't play young players, not about signing young players.
if inter don't make it out of the group, do you think he will be sacked?
Its just funny how you tied so many disparately irrelevant factors together in order to make an argument for Blanc.
Shut your trap Raoul, you only started watching football when your fellow Latino Los Angelean Santiago got a trial for Newcastle United....
What does that have to do with this thread ?
So you agree you've only been watching football since you rented Goal one night? Ha ha ha!
Wanting Mourinho as the next United manager is the ultimate transfer muppet's wet dream....
You still haven't made a compelling argument as to why he shouldn't be. Your argument about Blanc isn't doing the trick.
In fairness though, the second part doesnt mean it is a bad thing. The transfer muppets wet dream for a player at the moment is probably Gourcuff, I wouldnt mind that
And wanting Blanc is a muppets dream full stop...the guys barely out of nappies in management terms...one decent spell in France with only Lyon a pale comparison to what they used to be as competition is certainly not a credible CV when your talking about replacing the greatest manager in world football at the helm of one of if not the biggest club on the planet…its lunacy.
Maybe just maybe people want Mourinhio because he is by a street the best qualified man for the job having won domestic titles in 3 different countries and earned the respect of players world wide…how many times do we hear players come out and say they’d love to work under Mourinhio?? Our very own Anderson said the same not so long ago…hes got the charisma and self confidence/arrogance to not be fazed with the huge boots hed be filling coupled with the proven history of success and player pulling power a top club manager needs….Blanc has none of these…
Edit..Im really struggling to fathom how anyone can put forward a respectable case for blanc to be the man to replace Sir Alex based on 18 months of management in the french league....and absolutley nothing else.
Nail on the head.
Come on, I've been making points throughout this whole fecking thread mate!
I believe his management prowess is overhyped due to his lucky run to the UEFA Cup Final which Porto won.
He then took over at Chelsea, the first club to be given UNLIMITED transfer funds by the owner ever.
A club whom had finished second the previous season and reached the UEFA CL semis, beating the 'unbeatable' Arsenal en route, evidently a very good side already been built by Ranieri, Vialli and even Gullit before them.
He was allowed to bring in additional players which cemented an excellent squad from an already very good squad, something I'm sure Ranieri would have also done no doubt.
United were in transition and had no Van Nistelrooy with his first long term Man United injury (he wouldn't play consistently throughout the whole season), had a skeletal midfield playing Djemba-Djemba and Miller and even Alan Smith.
Arsenal had a lacklustre season with Bergkamp winding down, Pires ordinary and Vieira the shadow of his former self, possibly due to rumours he was off to Real all year but it was hard for Arsenal to top the 2003-04 season obviously having been unbeaten.
When United reassembled and reaserted their squad, we won the league fairly easily in 2006-07.
Chelsea lost a few games early in 2007-08 and ultimately Mourinho cracked and fecked off (or was pushed), shows a lack of managerial strength to me that.
He then took on the role with Inter, another very wealthy side, not exactly a challenge considering Juventus and Milan were in decline.
Mourinho's had a habit of not getting on with his chairmen, at Benfica, at Chelsea and now at Inter where he clashes with Moratti regularly - what's to say the OT board want someone who will most certainly clash with them?
He's had a habit of not staying at clubs in his career (so far) no more than three seasons. Someone pointed out they were basically promotions. Benfica to (can't remember, smaller Portuegese club?), then to Porto, then to Chelsea, then to Inter in less nine years. They may be career progression but again, it shows instability - we do not want a quick fix, we want a continuance of our empire. Genghis Khan handed down the dynasty to his sons and their sons and their sons for generations and generations, they did not pass it on to Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime the Mongulator next door who had issues, he kept it going to ensure the way of life (ie - style of play) and tradition. Mourinho will disrupt the club and players.
Is that enough for you?
The pro Blanc argument is nothing more than an Anyone but Mourinho argument, which is precisely why it isn't very convincing.
Yes it seems that way...the belittling of Mournhios record (which cannot be described as anything other than brilliant) and the mentioning of blancs achievements mainly as a player as some form of positive managerial criteria all seems a tad...desperate…
You're being far too cynical about each of your points.
For example: Winning two major European Cups in successive years with a relatively minnowish club compared to the traditoinal European giants can't be trivialized. Immediately following which he won two leagues with a Club that had only previously won the league once before in its history, along the way grabbing 95 and 91 points during each campaign. After joining Inter, he's picked up where he left off with Chelsea. He hasn't lost a league in which he's managed a full season since before 2002.
These aren't exaggerations, nor can they be cynically trivialized.
Has it occurred to you that he may just be a damn good manager ?
Desperate? You pair of rent-a-bums and a few others have your dicks so hard at the prospect of Mourinho it's worrying, whereas a few years back you would have been just like the rest of us hating the cnut.
Because that's what he is, a cnut and I don't want that cnut nowhere near OT.
And also, Blanc has 18 months of experience NOW, he will have more when the time comes for Fergie to step down, wouldn't you say? Jolly good, ta-ta....
I know he's a good manager, I dispute that not, my good sir, but in your response you have stated within that very impressive fact he has won in every FULL season he's managed since 2002 (which is incorrect by the way, he didn;t win it with Chelsea in 2006/07), yet when things looked iffy for him at the start of 2007/08, it seemed unlikely Chelsea could catch United already by the end of September and he shat it and ran because he couldn't handle not winning it again. Is that not a fair comment?
Firstly mate there’s no need to get all techy because not everyones agreeing with you…calm down a tad yeah?
Secondly fair enough that’s your opinion that’s fine but I don’t see why your finding it so hard to understand why some people will not accept that a manager whose won what Mourinhios won whether he’s been well supported financially or otherwise is less qualified and a less attractive option than some bloke who’s barely been in the game 5 minutes…..and I might add proven nothing outside of winning a relatively minor league with minimal opposition…Mourinhios been there and done that with Porto…difference is he’s also won big titles in big leagues under big pressure…dominating the league in the process i.e. hes proven he can handle the pressure of being expected to win big prizes…again Blanc hasn’t….that’s another box Mourinhio ticks that Blanc does not and one that quite clearly will be taken into consideration. Seeing as its a rather important quality.
If blanc can take Boardeux to the champions league final….win it and then win 2 leagues on the bounce in a major league on top of that THEN ill happily say hes well qualified for the job..until then to judge a manger on a mere 18 months in what is a relatively minor league is hardly a watertight base for such a recommendation.
Your dislike of Mourinhio appears to be more of a personal nature more than anything else...maybe your letting your heart rule your head on this…yes the mans a cnut but hes a bloody good manager to and that’s what were going to need when Sir Alex steps down…im pretty sure everyone outside of Old Trafford thinks Fergies a cnut to…and likewise Wenger….I see a pattern emerging here…great managers disliked outside of their clubs hmmmm..
i stand corrected about the 2006/07 league.
He left due to a bust up with Abramovich, which given Roman's managerial moves since Jose's departure, proves that Mourinho can't be blamed for it. I can't see Fergie, Wenger, or any other top manager putting up with such a meddlesome owner.
That’s one way of looking at it...another more reasonable way may be to come to the conclusion hed finally had enough of the owners constant meddling into first team affairs and wasn’t going to stand for it any longer which is fair enough...i doubt the very position were discussing would be filled with Sir Alex had we had an owner who was undermining him on a weekly basis....
And how many managers have Chelsea been through in the past 2 years? that would suggest the owners hardly the most agreeable individual to work under..
Alright, let me respond my saying trust me brother, I'm clam, I'm not getting my tits out over this, it's caled sarcasm and banter but obviously it may be lost on you.
And yes, I understand you rpoints succintly but as you say, can you not also understand not everyone would like Mourinho as a manager either, just as you wouldn't want Blanc? And can I say, Mourinho did a belting job with porto, superb. Winning the CL with a 'small' club was a top achievement. But can I add further and say he's since been with Chelsea and Inter and he's not fecking won it with these 'bigger' clubs, has he? What makes you think he can do it with United? He has won the leagues in Portugal, England and Italy, yes, but at Chelsea and Initer, he's basically formed a continuance of the previous managers work, added a couple of new players and stamped his name on it. Chelsea of course hadn't won it before he arrived in fifty years or whatever, but as I say, it was a continuance of Ranieris work as they were getting better and better and I cannot agree when people say 'well they wouldn't have own it under Ranieri' as we'll never honestly know but the signs point to it being they would have.
And has he improved Inter? Well they are still winning Serie A, but they had won it twice or three times before his arrival and in my view, they aren't the same threat in Europe they looked a few seasons back when the two Milanese teams played each other, I think in the semi-final? Perhaps Mourinho has peaked already....at Porto, and as I said earlier, give Blanc another couple of seasons, now I'm not saying he will win the Champions League but I'm sure he'll keep doing good things with Bordeaux.
Well Ancelotti, a double-Champions League winner and how many Scudettos and whatever else-winner seems to be doing it quite well so far?
See above comment for my response to this
So far so good 14 games into his first year.
Nah just not always easy to detect when behind keyboards and screens thats all...lost in translation maybe...
As for the rest of your post i see where your coming from even if i don’t agree with it in the main....were clearly coming from the total opposite direction on this so best to agree to disagree otherwise i can see this going round in circles..
Looks like it is Jose all da way 100% to 0% for everyone else
Nope, Larry White coming up even with 50%
No worries mate...
I just posted a poll with 20 names. It closes on the 10th.
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