Man Utd board warming to Inter Milan boss Mourinho

Who should replace SAF after he retires ?

  • Jose Mourinho

    Votes: 270 58.1%
  • Laurent Blanc

    Votes: 61 13.1%
  • Steve Bruce

    Votes: 8 1.7%
  • Roy Keane

    Votes: 4 0.9%
  • Ole Gunnar Solskjaer

    Votes: 25 5.4%
  • Fabio Capello

    Votes: 10 2.2%
  • Pep Guardiola

    Votes: 8 1.7%
  • Arsene Wenger

    Votes: 5 1.1%
  • Mark Hughes

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • David Moyes

    Votes: 17 3.7%
  • Gus Hiddink

    Votes: 9 1.9%
  • Ottmar Hitzfeld

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Eric Cantona

    Votes: 12 2.6%
  • Alec McCleish

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • Frank Rijkaard

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Louis Van Gaal

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Mike Phelan

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • Carlos Quieroz

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Dick Advocaat

    Votes: 4 0.9%
  • Harry Redknapp

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • Marcello Lippi

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Martin O'Neill

    Votes: 19 4.1%

  • Total voters
    465
  • Poll closed .
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a) Yeah, Sir Alex is a cock, but he's been here twenty odd years, and built a empire. He's earned the right to be one, and he's a different kind of cock. Sir Alex is all about winning. Mourinho's all about Jose Mourinho. That's not what I want in charge of our club

c) Not convinced. He won a CL with Porto...fair enough, but they were probably the weakest Champions League winners ever.

a) fat, skinny, long or small, a cock is still a cock

c) the 04/05 Liverpool squad were inferior to 03/04 Porto side. And the 99/00 Real side weren't exactly lighting up La Liga, as evidenced by their fifth placed finish. Those two stick out as poor CL winners. That 03/04 Porto side had plenty of talent, many of whom have gone on to big clubs.
 
By the way, I've read a couple of posts here saying that things went wrong for Mourinho at Chelsea because he had players like Ballack forced upon him. Seems like people have forgotten how much SAF wanted Ballack before he chose Chelsea.

So because SAF wanted him that legitimizes everything? :wenger:

Mourinho didn't want him.
 
I somehow doubt Abramovic forced Mourinho to buy Steve Sidwell.

I recall some Chelsea supporters on this board talking about Roman not authorizing another lavish spending spree and that left the manager and staff to find bargain signings for depth.

They were still bad signings but who would SAF have signed that summer if the Glazers were skint or not allocating funds? Certainly no Anderson, Hargreaves or Nani.
 
Shouldn't the "ghost goal" have been a penalty and a red card anyway? It's an incredibly thin argument...they didn't deserve to win that game. You could make a far more valid counter argument with regards to the Scholes "offside" goal against Porto, which would have almost certainly knocked them out. And in anycase, stuff like that is just tough shit.

Not if you still allow for Porto's late goal, then it would have been 2-2 on aggregate and headed to extra time.
 
Well said, Alfy. People need to pull the wool from over their eyes. JM is a fantastic manager, young, experienced, has won everything, plays good football and of course can grow a pretty mean beard.

But Blanc won Ligue 1, so......

That's the thing though, it's just not true.

His teams can and have played good football, but usually they play fairly mechanical football. Good football was us in 07/08. Great football was us in 06/07. Mechanical football was us in 08/09.

Under Sir Alex we've played all of the three over the course of a season, just like Mourinho. It's not the quality of attacking football you can play at your best though, it's the average quality of attacking football. Sir Alex is near the top and Mourinho's near the bottom, for top club managers.

Would you say Benitez encourages good football?
 
It surprises me that some people have voted Ole Gunnar Solskjaer. Yes, he's a legend, but he's no where near experienced enough to be the next manager of Manchester United!

Managing United is probably the biggest job in the world for any manager. Our next manager will need to be extremely experienced at playing at the top level in the biggest competitons, have a history of winning the best competitions, have an eye for fantastic (relatively) well-priced players, be willing to go for the expensive players, able to cope with pressure and very tactically astute. That's asking so much of a manager, but we expect the best of the best as a team. It's the highest any manager can get, they'll have to be close to the best in the world.

I honestly can't think of a manager in world football who has as many of those qualities as Mourinho. Yeah, he's not perfect and he doesn't have the extra qualities we might prefer as a manager of United - an eye for attacking football and a willingness to focus on youth - but he has everything else listed and most other managers being named here don't. Most of them don't have anything like the experience and proven success that we'd look for in Fergie's successor. Not even close.

I'd go with the safest option. Which is what Mourinho is.
 
It surprises me that some people have voted Ole Gunnar Solskjaer. Yes, he's a legend, but he's no where near experienced enough to be the next manager of Manchester United!

Managing United is probably the biggest job in the world for any manager. Our next manager will need to be extremely experienced at playing at the top level in the biggest competitons, have a history of winning the best competitions, have an eye for fantastic (relatively) well-priced players, be willing to go for the expensive players, able to cope with pressure and very tactically astute. That's asking so much of a manager, but we expect the best of the best as a team. It's the highest any manager can get, they'll have to be close to the best in the world.

I honestly can't think of a manager in world football who has as many of those qualities as Mourinho. Yeah, he's not perfect and he doesn't have the extra qualities we might prefer as a manager of United - an eye for attacking football and a willingness to focus on youth - but he has everything else listed and most other managers being named here don't. Most of them don't have anything like the experience and proven success that we'd look for in Fergie's successor. Not even close.

I'd go with the safest option. Which is what Mourinho is.

Ill go with that. Well put !
 
Mourinho lost today. I think this proves my point why Blanc is better. Based on thier last one game, Blanc is more suited to the United job.
 
Mourinho lost today. I think this proves my point why Blanc is better. Based on thier last one game, Blanc is more suited to the United job.

Yep.. Mouriniho's only 4 points clear at the top of the A series after playing 15 games and losing twice. Based on that so far this year Mourinho is more suited to the United job.
 
I'd just like to point out that Steve Bruce's remarkable "success" at Sunderland has them sitting in 10th place today, just ahead of Stoke on goal difference. And if the season ended tomorrow, it would be only his second ever finish in the top half of the table - the last coming in 2004 when he finished 10th with Birmingham.

Those of you touting him to succeed Sir Alex should have your heads examined.
 
It surprises me that some people have voted Ole Gunnar Solskjaer. Yes, he's a legend, but he's no where near experienced enough to be the next manager of Manchester United!

Managing United is probably the biggest job in the world for any manager. Our next manager will need to be extremely experienced at playing at the top level in the biggest competitons, have a history of winning the best competitions, have an eye for fantastic (relatively) well-priced players, be willing to go for the expensive players, able to cope with pressure and very tactically astute. That's asking so much of a manager, but we expect the best of the best as a team. It's the highest any manager can get, they'll have to be close to the best in the world.

I honestly can't think of a manager in world football who has as many of those qualities as Mourinho. Yeah, he's not perfect and he doesn't have the extra qualities we might prefer as a manager of United - an eye for attacking football and a willingness to focus on youth - but he has everything else listed and most other managers being named here don't. Most of them don't have anything like the experience and proven success that we'd look for in Fergie's successor. Not even close.

I'd go with the safest option. Which is what Mourinho is.

I'm one of those who voted for Ole, but I admit whole heartedly that it was a romantic choice - heart over head. In that daydream Ole does what Guardiola has done at Barca and all is wonderful.

But of course that's not how it will be. United won't be handing over a team with Messi, Xavi and Iniesta in it. Barca weren't a club that had been moulded in one man's image for more than 20 years.

So yeah, I'd love Ole to get the job and make a success of it, failing that I'd like to see Blanc...

But whoever takes the job will have more pressure upon them than anyone I can think of, will have to reshape the club, to remove Fergie's ghost if you will. And what we will need is someone with a huge degree of confidence, arrogance and ability, someone who can handle what will be a very difficult hand-over.

And so I genuinely would like to see Ole at the helm one day, but not yet. And really, being honest, the only logical choice is Jose...

That said I'd love to see Ole stay after SAF steps down and work with his replacement (whoever that is) as an assistant manager - to keep some continuity and maybe groom him for the top job one day.
 
Amazed Redkanpp hasn't got a single vote. One of the few managers on that list who I reckon would win us the league more often than not.

Not that I'm advocating him btw.
 
They played some pretty great football at times last season.

That was going to be my follow-up point if he said no.

Like Mourinho, Benitez has had his team play some very good attacking football at times. It's just not their natural games though.
 
Amazed Redkanpp hasn't got a single vote. One of the few managers on that list who I reckon would win us the league more often than not.

Not that I'm advocating him btw.

We're already in precarious financial waters as it is.

It'd be a disaster to have 'arry in charge giving the likes of David James and Jermain Defoe big fat contracts.
 
Why on earth would Abramovic force Mourinho to buy Wright Philips? That's silly. He did bring in Grant, and there's no doubt he fell out with Jose, but, Mourinho falls out with everyone, in fairness. He doesn't like having his ego checked. Of the managers Chelsea have had since, Grant and Scolari were a bit shit, and Hiddink never wanted the job full time to begin with.

Who does Mourinho fall out with? Abramovich, and understandably so. He also supposedly fell out with Terry, but again he thought he was bigger than the club, and two big ego's like that is like Weaste and Brad colliding - we saw what happened there.

Grant wasn't shit. He took Chelsea to the to within a couple of points of the title, and would have won the CL were it not for a Terry slip. Scolari was not shit either, his team had run into a bit of a bad patch and so he was dimissed. Abramovich is just trigger happy, face it. Hiddink would have also taken the job had he not been managing Russia aswell.

Most managers make the odd bad signing (apart from Wenger), and as a result they usually either get sacked or stick it out and turn things round. I'm just pointing out the innacuracy of laying the blame for said bad signings at Abramovic's feet.

Wenger never makes a bad signing? Surely you're joking? Jeffers for £8m, Wiltord for £13m, Reyes for £17m, Cygan et al, he's made a fair few howlers himself, to say he hasn't is silly. And Mourinho did make some bad signings, of course he did, but he also made some very good ones. And he would have stayed and stuck it out had Abramovich not decided to start signing players for him and decided not to bring in a Director of Football which time and time again has been proven not to work (At least in England).

and it's not just the bring football...that I could stand. It's the whole attitude/mentality his teams play with. "I do not entertain!"

His teams mentality was to win, just as ours is.

That's the thing though, it's just not true.

His teams can and have played good football, but usually they play fairly mechanical football. Good football was us in 07/08. Great football was us in 06/07. Mechanical football was us in 08/09.

Under Sir Alex we've played all of the three over the course of a season, just like Mourinho. It's not the quality of attacking football you can play at your best though, it's the average quality of attacking football. Sir Alex is near the top and Mourinho's near the bottom, for top club managers.

Would you say Benitez encourages good football?

Benitez doesn't encourage good football, no. And I wouldn't say they played a lot of good football last season. They were involved in a lot of good games certainly, but their football wasn't particularly great.

And again, we need to go back to the pressure Mourinho was under to succeed. He didn't have the luxury of knowing he had time to lay the foundations of a team and build from there, Abramovich wanted trophies and results straight away. At United he'd be given that time, he'd inherit a very good squad and he'd take over from a very well run club. He'd thrive here.
 
Mourinho in hot water after latest press spat
Portuguese facing punishment
Internazionale manager Jose Mourinho is facing threats of action from the Union of Journalists in Italy, following an apparent physical altercation with a member of the press after his side’s match with Atalanta this afternoon.

Mourinho, who was serving a touchline ban, watched from the stands as the Nerazurri conceded a late goal to draw 1-1 in Bergamo, but it is his reported actions after the final whistle that have become the major talking point in Italy this weekend.

Journalist Andrea Ramazzotti was positioned in the area next to the team bus reserved for Inter channel, where he had been given authorisation from both clubs to stand. According to eyewitnesses, Mourinho emerged from the bus to verbally insult Ramazzotti and proceeded to push the journalist, telling him “you cannot be here; you have to be in the press room.”

President of the Union of Journalists Luigi Ferraiolo reacted to the incident by releasing a statement condemning the former Porto coach’s actions. “The physical and verbal attack of Inter manager Jose Mourinho towards our colleague Andrea Ramazzotti marks one of the lowest and most alarming moments in the rapport between football and the media,” he said.

“We demand that the sporting justice system take action and, based on the law that considers clubs responsible for attacks on journalists, examine the behaviour of Mourinho for potential sanctions.

“Mourinho had already shown himself up ahead of the Champions League game with Rubin Kazan for his rude and disrespectful attitude towards some of our colleagues.

“This attack represents an irresponsible and unacceptable escalation. The USSI not only expresses its indignation, but also strong concerns over this sort of behaviour that serves to increase tension and controversy.”

The episode comes as Mourinho’s relationship with the Italian media appears to be reaching boiling point. The Special One has conducted only contractually obliged interviews in recent weeks, in which he has been critical of the press, and infuriated journalists when cancelling his pre-match press conference ahead of this weekend’s match.
 
And Aston Villa won at Old Trafford and Martin O'Neil still only has 4 votes!
 
Alain Perrin has done that.

He continued on the work of his predeccesors, he didnt break an empire in the same way Fergie did with Aberdeen or Blanc with Bordeaux. A monkey in a dress could manage Celtic or Rangers and finish in the Top Two. Anyone could have managed Lyons for a time and won it, it takes a very good manager to break the monotony without a billionaires backing...
 
He continued on the work of his predeccesors, he didnt break an empire in the same way Fergie did with Aberdeen or Blanc with Bordeaux. A monkey in a dress could manage Celtic or Rangers and finish in the Top Two. Anyone could have managed Lyons for a time and won it, it takes a very good manager to break the monotony without a billionaires backing...

Blanc didn't break an empire though, Lyon broke it themselves, by selling all their best players.
 
Blanc didn't break an empire though, Lyon broke it themselves, by selling all their best players.

With that it could be said about Mourinho that they BOUGHT all their players and United had lost all ours in Beckham, Veron, Butt, Forlan, Barthez etc.
And Lyon still had Juninho, Benzema, Kallstrom, Toulalan, Cris, etc etc last season, did they not?
 
Blanc didn't break an empire though, Lyon broke it themselves, by selling all their best players.

How did they? Last year they still had Juninho, Benzema (one of the world most expensive footballers), Toulalan (courted by a number of top clubs) etc etc.

Blanc is dominating the French league, and has dominated some of the best of what Italy and Germany had to offer in the Champs. Keep on trucking Laurent.

Furthermore, another story just appeared about Mourinho being a dick. He really winds me up.
 
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