Man Utd board warming to Inter Milan boss Mourinho

[noodlehair]

Fair enough Noodle i just don’t share the same opinion on this one...im of the opinion hed be just what we need when we lose the great man...one of the main reasons being i think were going to need more than just a quality manager when Fergie does retire were also going to need a huge character….a man who can handle the pressure of filling the great mans shoes...an entirely different aspect than just being a good manager of a team...

Out of interest who would you like to see given the job?

I agree about the character bit. I pity whoever does step in after Fergie, to be honest. The problem is as always happens in these sitautions...we'll be looking for a replacement to Fergie, and such a thing doesn't exist. I think a lot of people back Mourinho just because of the character aspect. He'll make the job his own, but for me that's exactly the problem, that he'll make the job his own.

and I'm not sure who I'd want at the moment. There's some good managers out there who I know little about. Maybe O'Neill? He's no Fergie, but he knows what he's doing, has handled being in charge of a big club before, and seems to do well wherever he ends up. He nearly won Celtic a European trophy aswell. You only have to look at what's happened to them since to see how hard that must have been.

Not if you still allow for Porto's late goal, then it would have been 2-2 on aggregate and headed to extra time.

Yes, well now you're just arguing for the sake of it. They might never have got the goal back, or it might have ended 2-2. Who knows?

The phantom goal was tough shit, and Chelsea never did enough to deserve to win the tie.

Grant wasn't shit. He took Chelsea to the to within a couple of points of the title, and would have won the CL were it not for a Terry slip. Scolari was not shit either, his team had run into a bit of a bad patch and so he was dimissed. Abramovich is just trigger happy, face it. Hiddink would have also taken the job had he not been managing Russia aswell.

Ask Chelsea fans what they thought of Grant and Scolari. They made silly team selections, didn't get the best out of key players and in fact couldn't even keep the dressing room together. Grant's dismissal was a bit unfair on the face of it, but he was only brought in to hold things in place after Jose stormed off, and ultimately he didn't quite do the business. Scolari turned Chelsea into a side that couldn't even compete on the same pitch as United or Liverpool, and he'd lost the dressing room. He had to go.

Supposing Abramovic did make a couple of signings. So what? It's hardly ideal, but I bet someone like David Moyes wouldn't mind being "forced" to sign Michael Ballack, if he were given unlimited funds to build the rest of his team with first. It's hardly managing with no arms.

 

[esmufc07]

How did they? Last year they still had Juninho, Benzema (one of the world most expensive footballers), Toulalan (courted by a number of top clubs) etc etc.

Blanc is dominating the French league, and has dominated some of the best of what Italy and Germany had to offer in the Champs. Keep on trucking Laurent.

Furthermore, another story just appeared about Mourinho being a dick. He really winds me up.

Juninho is not the player he was. Fair enough about Benzema and Toulalan, but compare the squad of 2009 to their squad of 2006, you'll see they have declined in quality in that time, they're 9th this season which tells you all you need to know.

And Blanc is hardly dominating Ligue 1, he's won it once. Blackburn weren't dominating English football in 1995.

 

[esmufc07]

I agree about the character bit. I pity whoever does step in after Fergie, to be honest. The problem is as always happens in these sitautions...we'll be looking for a replacement to Fergie, and such a thing doesn't exist. I think a lot of people back Mourinho just because of the character aspect. He'll make the job his own, but for me that's exactly the problem, that he'll make the job his own.

Making the job his own is exactly what needs to be done, we don't want Fergie's shadow hanging over the club. Even when he's gone I'd be cautious about him staying on in a behind the scenes role which has been speculated, simply because he will have too much influence. Once Fergie calls it a day, he should leave United for good. That's not being disrespectful, but him staying could hinder us more than anything.

and I'm not sure who I'd want at the moment. There's some good managers out there who I know little about. Maybe O'Neill? He's no Fergie, but he knows what he's doing, has handled being in charge of a big club before, and seems to do well wherever he ends up. He nearly won Celtic a European trophy aswell. You only have to look at what's happened to them since to see how hard that must have been.

You could apply all of your arguments for O Neill taking over to Mourinho. Replace Celtic with Porto (And remove the 'nearly' )

Ask Chelsea fans what they thought of Grant and Scolari. They made silly team selections, didn't get the best out of key players and in fact couldn't even keep the dressing room together. Grant's dismissal was a bit unfair on the face of it, but he was only brought in to hold things in place after Jose stormed off, and ultimately he didn't quite do the business. Scolari turned Chelsea into a side that couldn't even compete on the same pitch as United or Liverpool, and he'd lost the dressing room. He had to go.

Fans, most of them, are idiots, and a run of 3 or 4 games where results don't go your way and the managers head will be called for. Can you imagine this place if we did a Liverpool and won three of our next 15 games? It'd be fecking insane. Grant did a very good job, and I don't really see much evidence for a dressing room split other than media speculation, which pretty much rules out to there being any truth in it. I'd agree about him being brought in to hold things in place, but he still did a very good job.

Scolari went on a run of bad results, but they'd have recovered. Ancelotti now hasn't won in 4 games. He should be worried, Abramovich is very trigger happy.

Supposing Abramovic did make a couple of signings. So what? It's hardly ideal, but I bet someone like David Moyes wouldn't mind being "forced" to sign Michael Ballack, if he were given unlimited funds to build the rest of his team with first. It's hardly managing with no arms.

There's no 'supposing' about it. And yes, David Moyes wouldn't mind, probably because it is his first spell at a big club, and likely the only chance he'd get. Mourinho knows he is the best, or one of, and could walk into another top job in football.

 

[Rood]

Laughable that Ole is the 3rd most popular choice - he has precisely ZERO chance of replacing Fergie unless he leaves United and proves himself pretty quickly elsewhere.

 

[Wumminator]

Apart from Blanc and Mourinho. I wouldn't want anyone else to get the job.

 

[esmufc07]

Laughable that Ole is the 3rd most popular choice - he has precisely ZERO chance of replacing Fergie unless he leaves United and proves himself pretty quickly elsewhere.

He shouldn't even be on the list.

 

[Raoul]

Be interesting to see how opinions change if Bordeaux go late into the CL and Inter crash out in the next round.

 

[Scoreboard Red]

Laughable that Ole is the 3rd most popular choice - he has precisely ZERO chance of replacing Fergie unless he leaves United and proves himself pretty quickly elsewhere.

Perhaps it won't be Ole, but in all sincerity, I wouldn't be surprised if there is a HUGE surprise who it turns out to be and I wouldn't bet my house on any one individual......

 

[anver]

Internazionale coach Jose Mourinho has admitted he verbally abused a journalist after Sunday's 1-1 draw with Atalanta but denied that there was physical contact, refused to apologise and demanded a Christmas present from the hack.

League officials and Inter president Massimo Moratti are probing the incident outside the team bus after Italy's sports journalists' union complained.

"It's true I insulted one of your colleagues with a word I cannot repeat that was offensive. But it is not true that there was aggressive intent or physical contact," Mourinho said.

Mourinho, who has lamented the grilling he gets from Italian media so much that reports have speculated he could quit in May, said he snapped because the journalist had been standing by the team bus for months despite his protests.

"I will not make a public apology because the situation was not public but private," added the Portuguese.

"In front of him, like men, I will be able to talk with him and end this story. Maybe with a bit of humour - I expect a Christmas present from him." (ED)

 

[ERICSAGOD]

Be interesting to see how opinions change if Bordeaux go late into the CL and Inter crash out in the next round.

My opinion won't change one bit.

I don't want Mourinho (egotistical little cnut) anywhere near this club.

 

[esmufc07]

My opinion won't change one bit.

I don't want Mourinho (egotistical little cnut) anywhere near this club.

If Fergie was at any other club, he'd be despised by every last person on here.

 

[esmufc07]

Internazionale coach Jose Mourinho has admitted he verbally abused a journalist after Sunday's 1-1 draw with Atalanta but denied that there was physical contact, refused to apologise and demanded a Christmas present from the hack.

League officials and Inter president Massimo Moratti are probing the incident outside the team bus after Italy's sports journalists' union complained.

"It's true I insulted one of your colleagues with a word I cannot repeat that was offensive. But it is not true that there was aggressive intent or physical contact," Mourinho said.

Mourinho, who has lamented the grilling he gets from Italian media so much that reports have speculated he could quit in May, said he snapped because the journalist had been standing by the team bus for months despite his protests.

"I will not make a public apology because the situation was not public but private," added the Portuguese.

"In front of him, like men, I will be able to talk with him and end this story. Maybe with a bit of humour - I expect a Christmas present from him." (ED)

 

[::sonny::]

10@10: The rants and ravings of Jose Mourinho

Jose Mourinho has been at it again after admitting that he verbally abused an Italian journalist . He admitted using an offensive word to the scribe, but it's far from the first time that the Inter Milan boss has spoken about against a perceived enemy.

So here, for your enjoyment, MirrorFootball presents 10 of the Special One's best insults...

10)"That was not a football score, it was a hockey score…in training I often play matches of three against three and when the score reaches 5-4 I send the players back to the dressing room, because they are not defending properly” – Mourinho offers his thoughts on Tottenham's win 5-4 win over Arsenal in November 2004

9)"As we say in Portugal, they brought the bus and they left the bus in front of the goal. I would have been frustrated if I had been a supporter who paid £50 to watch this game because Spurs came to defend. There was only one team looking to win, they only came not to concede – it’s not fair for the football we played.” – Mourinho on Spurs after a 0-0 draw at Stamford Bridge in

8) "Barcelona have a great club. But in 200 years of history they have won the European Cup only once. I have been managing for a few years and I have already won the same amount.” – Mourinho on Barca during the 2005-2006 season. Barcelona went on to win the Champions League.

7)"I saw their players and manager go for a lap of honour after losing to us in their last home game. In Portugal if you do this, they throw bottles at you!" - Mourinho on Manchester United at the end of the 2004-04 season

6)I want to give my congratulations to them because they won. But we were the best team. We didn’t lose the game. Ninety minutes was a draw and it was a draw after two hours. We lost on penalties.” – Mourinho after losing to Charlton in the Carling Cup in October 2005

5)"Maybe when I turn 60 and have been managing in the same league for 20 years and have the respect of everybody I will have the power to speak to people and make them tremble a little bit.” – Mourinho on Sir Alex Ferguson

4)“Barcelona is a cultural city with many great theatres and this boy [Lionel Messi] has learned very well. He’s learned play-acting.” – Mourinho on Messi after he got Asier Del Horno sent off in their defeat against Barcelona in February 2006

3)"I studied Italian five hours a day for many months to ensure I could communicate with the players, media and fans. [Claudio] Ranieri had been in England for five years and still struggled to say ‘good morning’ and ‘good afternoon.' He has won a Super Cup, a small cup. He has never won a major trophy. Maybe he needs to change his mindset but he is too old to do it." - Mourinho on Claudio Ranieri

2)“I think he is one of these people who is a voyeur. He likes to watch other people. There are some guys who, when they are at home, have a big telescope to see what happens in other families. He speaks, speaks, speaks about Chelsea.” – Mourinho on Arsene Wenger

1) “My history as a manager cannot be compared with Frank Rijkaard’s history. He has zero trophies and I have a lot of them…” - Mourinho on his former Barcelona adversary

mirrorfootball.co.uk

 

[VoetbalWizard]

one thing is for sure, if mourinho was at OT, he'd wind up the scousers even more than SAF.

 

[Wumminator]

3)"I studied Italian five hours a day for many months to ensure I could communicate with the players, media and fans. [Claudio] Ranieri had been in England for five years and still struggled to say ‘good morning’ and ‘good afternoon.' He has won a Super Cup, a small cup. He has never won a major trophy. Maybe he needs to change his mindset but he is too old to do it." - Mourinho on Claudio Ranieri


Mourinho is a dick. No need for that. Classless.

 

[Cal?]

Didn't he say something along the lines of:

Many manager have won the Champions League, some have done it twice, but only one has ever manage to lose it after going 3-0 up at halftime...

 

[Inigo Montoya]

Didn't he say something along the lines of:

Many manager have won the Champions League, some have done it twice, but only one has ever manage to lose it after going 3-0 up at halftime...

He actually has the gall to criticise Ancelotti?

 

[Cal?]

He actually has the gall to criticise Ancelotti?

Why shouldn't he?

 

[Wumminator]

Be very interesitng to see who gets further in the Champos League this season after todays draw...

 

[esmufc07]

Be very interesitng to see who gets further in the Champos League this season after todays draw...

Why will it be interesting? Inter have arguably been given the toughest draw, whilst Bordeux have been given pretty much a bye.

I expect Chelsea and Bordeux to progress, but that doesn't really reflect on Blanc as a manager, Olympiakos is a pretty fecking easy draw.

 

[Red Pavan]

I prefer Laurent Blanc

 

[Cold_Boy]

Would love Mourinho at OT.

 

[Wumminator]

Why will it be interesting? Inter have arguably been given the toughest draw, whilst Bordeux have been given pretty much a bye.

I expect Chelsea and Bordeux to progress, but that doesn't really reflect on Blanc as a manager, Olympiakos is a pretty fecking easy draw.

Because then you can say that in the same competition with smaller funds, Blanc has done a better job than Mourinho.

Of course you could argue circumstance and harder games, but that can also be used against Mourinho then for Portos Champions League win.

 

[esmufc07]

Because then you can say that in the same competition with smaller funds, Blanc has done a better job than Mourinho

What a load of bollocks, last season Mourinho drew the current Champions of the competition, and a team who would again reach the final. They also played very well at Old Trafford and another day would have gone through. They have now got arguably the toughest draw of the lot in Chelsea, whereas Bordeuz have been drawn against the easiest team in the competition.

Of course you could argue circumstance and harder games, but that can also be used against Mourinho then for Portos Champions League win.

Porto had a group consisting of Madrid, Marseille, and Partizan. Not easy by any means. They then had to navigate past United, Lyon (Who in 2004 were extremely good, much better than they are now), Deportivo and Monaco in the final. Easy by no means.

 

[Wumminator]

What a load of bollocks, last season Mourinho drew the current Champions of the competition, and a team who would again reach the final. They also played very well at Old Trafford and another day would have gone through. They have now got arguably the toughest draw of the lot in Chelsea, whereas Bordeuz have been drawn against the easiest team in the competition.



Porto had a group consisting of Madrid, Marseille, and Partizan. Not easy by any means. They then had to navigate past United, Lyon (Who in 2004 were extremely good, much better than they are now), Deportivo and Monaco in the final. Easy by no means.

Easy by no means? If Bordeaux had Deportivo the next round, you'd be saying (and rightly so) that they had a "bye" into the next round. If Jose's Inter was so good, or his Chelsea team, they would have done much more in the Champions League, where the men are seperated from the boys. His Porto record is the only one which is "exceptional" when taken into consideration factors such as money and opposition in his Chelsea and Inter stints.

 

[esmufc07]

Easy by no means? If Bordeaux had Deportivo the next round, you'd be saying (and rightly so) that they had a "bye" into the next round. If Jose's Inter was so good, or his Chelsea team, they would have done much more in the Champions League, where the men are seperated from the boys. His Porto record is the only one which is "exceptional" when taken into consideration factors such as money and opposition in his Chelsea and Inter stints.

Let's put it into context here, we're going back to the 03/04 season, Deportivo were a good side then, not as good as they were a few seasons previous, but still a good side, and a side who had overcome a 3 goal deficit against AC Milan, thrashing them 4-0. Don't tell me they were a shit team, because they weren't. Yes, if any team drew Depor in 2009, I'd expect them to comfortably progress, because they are not the team they were.

This is Mourinho's second season, as I said, he drew the European Champions last season, and was actually unlucky to be eliminated as his team did very well at OT. He was unlucky with Chelsea a few times too.

 

[datura]

This is Mourinho's second season, as I said, he drew the European Champions last season, and was actually unlucky to be eliminated as his team did very well at OT. He was unlucky with Chelsea a few times too.

You forget the first leg when we should have won by 2 or 3 making the return leg fairly meaningless.

 

[esmufc07]

You forget the first leg when we should have won by 2 or 3 making the return leg fairly meaningless.

Mentioning that weakens my argument

 

[CptMarvel]

Supposing Abramovic did make a couple of signings. So what? It's hardly ideal, but I bet someone like David Moyes wouldn't mind being "forced" to sign Michael Ballack, if he were given unlimited funds to build the rest of his team with first. It's hardly managing with no arms.

I agree with the rest of your post but not this, put simply could you imagine Fergusons reaction to having players signed without his approval?

Add to that the mixed message from above on the one hand of wanting to see exciting footbal and on the other of having to sign Ballack.

I wouldn't want Mourinho here but I wouldn't want a manager that would tolerate that.

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

He actually has the gall to criticise Ancelotti?

He was spot on. Carlo is a lucky dummy.

 

[Nistelrooy10]

Latest news

 

[Raees]

Mourinho wants the United job: Inter boss snubbed City's millions because he has his heart set on taking over from Fergie at Old Trafford | Mail Online

 

[charleysurf]

Mourinho wants the United job: Inter boss snubbed City's millions because he has his heart set on taking over from Fergie at Old Trafford | Mail Online

"...sources close to the Portuguese say..."

I can never get over how soul destroying it must be to have to make up this shit every day.

 

[esmufc07]

Mourinho wins Serie A - The league is dog shit
Blanc wins Ligue 1 - He's single handendly torn down the Lyon empire, leaving them languishing in 6th half way through the next campaign.

 

[Allforone]

Mourinho wins Serie A - The league is dog shit
Blanc wins Ligue 1 - He's single handendly torn down the Lyon empire, leaving them languishing in 6th half way through the next campaign.

 

[Raees]

"...sources close to the Portuguese say..."

I can never get over how soul destroying it must be to have to make up this shit every day.

Tell me about it, I've alluded to this in another daily mail exclusive in the Hazard thread.

 

[Longsden_7]

Said it before, will say it again. Mouriniho is not the man I want at Manchester United

 

[esmufc07]

Said it before, will say it again. Mouriniho is not the man I want at Manchester United

I'm sure Gill will take your stance into consideration

 

[AttackingFlair]

Why? Does anyone actually have a decent reason why they wouldn't want Mourinho?

 

[Striker10]

Why? Does anyone actually have a decent reason why they wouldn't want Mourinho?

yes. His tactics. If he came here and wanted to play attacking football and bring through the kids then great. The one good thing we know is he wouldn't feel the pressure too much. The cocky bastard