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Man United appoint Moyes | Round, Woods, Lumsden, P Neville in; Giggs player/coach; Albert stays
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
Don't quote me on this, but I'm pretty sure coaches tell the players what to do, and don't generally run along in front calling on them to do what they do.
I must say that we'll probably not do well in Europe next year. I hope that I'm wrong, but this staff has no CL pedigree.
That's even worse! How's he supposed to properly plan training sessions if he's in at 9??
He starts at 9, he was in early. Jesus, Irwin, do keep up man.
Yeah, in early today to try to impress Ashley Young but will that last? Will it feck. Watch by Friday he'll be outside the gate at 8.59 smoking his last fag and looking at his watch.
It was a dumb dumb dumb dumb (etc.) statement anyway.
Will we do worse than we did last year? Will we do better than we did this year? It's a joke. If we go out like we did under SAF in 2011/12 everyone will be going off their rockers but if we get the the last 32 and go out i Moyes will still be at fault. Unless he gets to a final/semi final next year he'll be called a failure in Europe from some of the gimps on here.
I said don't quote me. Jesus, it was a pretty simple instruction.
What if he fails in Europe?
He's like a 95 year old poster trying to keep up with us young ones.
Doesn't succeed.
Define succeed.
Exactly. Failure to some of the muppets will be fail to go past the 1/4s in his first try.
We have a lot of experience in our squad when it comes to Europe though, and that experience isn't suddenly going to disappear with the arrival of a new manager and staff. It will obviously take a while for Moyes to get his tactics right, but some of the vastly experienced players that he has at his disposal will help. The likes of Rio, Vidic, RVP, Evra and Carrick all come to mind.
That's what she said.
Nope, because Moyes is there the players we have will all now be incapable of doing anything better than what Everton have achieved in Moyes time.
Define she.
Everybody is backing them, but there is cause for concern. I don't really care about you calling my statement dumb btw, and I never said that I expected a semi final from the off.
Obviously time will tell but Lumsden just doesn't look right. Looks like Moyes has given a job to one of the players' dads.
Well, define what you will consider failure in Europe so I can have something to gauge the against.
We just have to accept a good proportion of the fans are not enthusiastic about Moyes and they want him to EARN their loyalty and support, he is not a glamorous name and he has not won anything. I always thought he would get the job personally he just seemed like the best fit. I would say a top 2 finish and the Champion's league quarter final is a good first season he improves on that in any of those two competitions he has had a great first season. I really do believe he and has staff will prove many people wrong, quote me on that 
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.I have no problem with people not wanting him, but I have a problem with bland un-measurable statements like 'fail in Europe'.
How about "not succeed in Europe"?
I never wanted Moyes here, I said as much before Fergie retired and hoped when he did that we wouldn't go with Moyes. I'm still nervous about his appointment, and I'm not entirely sure he's the right man, but he's here now, and as such he needs time and patience to put his own stamp on it. He needs support and to be given a chance, otherwise we might as well just give up.
I'll be delighted to be proven wrong, and will be the first to hold my hands up, but irrespective of any of that, now is the time for us as a fanbase to get behind him and give him the best platform possible to continue the success of our club. We owe Fergie that much.
I'll be delighted to be proven wrong, and will be the first to hold my hands up, but irrespective of any of that, now is the time for us as a fanbase to get behind him and give him the best platform possible to continue the success of our club. We owe Fergie that much.
We just have to accept a good proportion of the fans are not enthusiastic about Moyes and they want him to EARN their loyalty and support, he is not a glamorous name and he has not won anything. I always thought he would get the job personally he just seemed like the best fit. I would say a top 2 finish and the Champion's league quarter final is a good first season he improves on that in any of those two competitions he has had a great first season. I really do believe he and has staff will prove many people wrong, quote me on that
That's not how it works. Or not how it should work. Supporters start out loyal and supportive of anyone representing the club, and it goes from there.
What is fail in Europe really, it's always a gamble. Basically he has no pedigree so unless he does well he would have failed in the eyes of some. We haven't been to the quarters in two years if he can do that in his first season surely that is progress? Fergie, Mourinho, Guardiola, Ancelotti, Klopp even all have leeway to 'fail' in Europe because they have proved they can do well while Moyes has not. Like I said quarter finals is good enough for me but I wouldn't call him a failure unless we go out disgracefully.
OK, so no definition of what failure in Europe actually means.
A lot of fans on here sound like 'hmmm yeah Moyes let's see what he does but i'm not holding my breath'. I do agree that is should be the way you described but fans are used to winning, they don't think Moyes is the man to deliver. In all honesty nobody could have come in and us fans not had doubts but I don't think Moyes was in the top 3 of mosts lists. I thought he would get the job an dwould be a good choice and I look forward to him proving people wrong.
I hope he proves the sceptics wrong too.
I'd have been happy with either Mourinho or Moyes but for very different reasons.
If (and I mean if) we continue to win honours over the coming years - I would much rather we did it under Moyes than Mourinho.
Unlike previous seasons - This season's Charity Shield is a massive game.
Moyes is just going to be questioned from the get go EVERYTHING he does will be scrutinized and compared to Fergie. It is really not an enviable job as a manager. I would want the job after the guy who takes over from Fergie personally less pressure. We are playing City right?? Mourinho was just not a right fit for me personally something about him was off he is a winner though that you can't question.
We could lose 10-0 and it wouldn't be a massive game
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