He's a massive aerial threat but a big liability when he's not playing in a back 5.
Maguire | NOT McGuire or MacGuire
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
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Because when it comes to defending with the ball on the floor he's pretty bad.
Then better we go for a cheaper foreign alternative. The lad is not worth 50 million (just like Stones wasn't). Maybe if Pep was managing us I'd see the point but we need a bloody defender not a centre half/midfielder.
He signed Smalling too who posters don't think are good enough.
Sir Alex making these type of signings would be a great model to follow if he didn't leave the squad in such dire shape while ignoring world class players because he didn't like to pay agents an extra few million on commission.
Its like the Tierney bullshit when posters say he was a Fergie signing as if he didn't play Jones and Smalling at RB.
So we aren't ready for the Maguisition?
He's great in the air, confident with the ball at his feet and his level of composure is scary. He's a born leader of men (which is something we have lacked at United since Vidic departed) and just the type of player that Jose will get the most out of. He's John Terry reborn.
I think him and Bailly could form an excellent partnership given the opportunity.
Your point was that he had an average season for Leicester yet their fans thought he was their best player and his teammates thought he was their best player so it doesn't seem that he was average for them, rather their best player.
For me it depends on the system we play. If we are to go with a back three then I can't think of many better. In a two I'm not keen at those prices.
The link isn't exactly credible anyway.
As for Robbie Keane, he probably could have been a decent player for us at his peak.
Do not want.
Get him and sell Jones. Will be great.
Indeed - for a club who’s DNA and Sir Alex’s dynasty was built around identifying, acquiring and developing the best British talent and utilising that identity as a platform for success, these ‘fans’ sure have a deluded fetish for foreigners.
If he played for Dortmund, Monaco or Napoli the same monkeys would spend their evenings salivating over YouTube videos of him. Maguire has earned a right to play for a big club - by such flawed fanboy logic, Keane, Ferdinand, Ince, Carrick etc would never have been signed by United.
‘....but he isn’t elite’ of course he isn’t, because he’s never had the exposure and opportunity to develop playing with and against the very best players yet. Neither was Ferdinand, neither was Bonucci at 25 (he was widely regarded as a liability until Conte cultivated his game)
Him and Bailly, in theory, compliment each other perfectly and could forge a solid partnership for the next 5 years.
who would that be then that is genuinely attainable.
Let's not sugar coat Rio, he made his fair amount of mistakes when he first came, took a while to settle. I'm sure you'll even recall later around 2009 after a few high profile errors, he was taking a lot of flak in the press. He was a quality defender of course but he had his flaws like any defender. Matched up with the correct partner in Vidic or a Sol Campbell he was a rolls royce. That's the secret, you need to create partnerships. Our defence as defenders is good, very good, where we suffer is our distribution from central defence. We thought Lindelof was the answer, but I don't see that long term, the physical aspect seems an issue for him.You are underestimating Maguire's defensive abilities, can it be improved yes, but he's dominant in the air, and strong in the tackle. He is an organiser, a vocal presence. I think he and Bailly would be a very good central defensive partnership
erm no thanks we don't want to overwork our Physio
who says he'd be cheaper? he's 1 year into a very long contract and we obviously will fight hard to keep him
no he isn't
No thanks. I can see plenty of errors in him with the way he wanks around with the ball like he’s a prime Xavi.
I can hear Maguire shouting "show me the money!"
Do people not realise mistakes are quite normal from young defenders? Hell, any defender of any age can screw up. I'd love to be shown one who is completely mistake free.
Who even says Maguire is available?
It’s leicester, he’s available for the right price and they’ve just signed Jonny Evans. I suspect they know Maguire will be leaving sooner rather than later
Evans was signed to replace Morgan not Maguire, we won't be bullied and United cannot bully any premier league club anymore let alone one with billionaire owners
Pffffft
Challenge accepted!
comes out with the ball very well and better then what we currently have, what a do love about him is his abilty to go and actually attack the ball, do I believe he would be an improvement on our current crop I would prob say yes, however it wouldn't be a massive improvement enough to warrant a £50m plus bid.
We are going to be so rinsed on this. Good player and I'd even have him with us but the kind of money Leicester is going to ask for should hopefully render this transfer dead pretty quickly.
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Give them Cash plus Jones. We don’t need both. He’s along way from world class but we can work with him. This is where’s Mourinho prides himself, making defenders look good.
Sell Jones/Smalling and sign Maguire? Yes. Definitely an upgrade on what we have. Maguire is the modern centre back that can do everything and still has room to improve as well.
You sold Kante and Mahrez within the last two years... Some balls on you for posting this.
Would make sense if we switch to a back 3 which I feel we will.
You get ridiculously defensive about anything Leicester related. I get you support them but chill dude.
Not disagreeing with you about the club's DNA, but we will never see another manager that has the ability to overachieve with "his" players the way Sir Alex did. Pretty much every other manager needs to have a squad stacked with talent regardless of nationality to achieve what we want to achieve.
yeah we sold Kante as we had no choice and Made Mahrez wait until we got the offer we wanted, I didn't say we wouldn't sell I said we wouldn't be bullied
I'm not getting defensive I just think some of the people on here still think its the late 90s when clubs had to sell to survive and United could just take who ever they wanted, times have changed, United may well end up signing Harry, but it won't be cheap and it won't happen unless we get the deal we want
when you can triple possibly quadruple your investment in 1 yr, clubs suddenly aren't that resistant to being bullied.
He's very good, he'd be a great signing for United.
That depends on your definition of bullying.It comes down to what the player wants and if he wants to move to United (or Liverpool, or City or Tottenham, or Chelsea, or Arsenal) then he will. You dragged your heels on Mahrez and where will he be playing next season? Chelsea took Kante without too much of a fuss right after you won the league.
Maguire would be an immense signing imho. Offer cash plus Jones or smalling to Leicester. Done
I agree that PL players are far more unattainable than they once were due to the money involved. But just like Mahrez, they will eventually leave if that’s what they really want.
Smalling is a very reliable defender as a backup. Sell Jones and bring Maguire to play him beside Bailly while having Smalling, Lindelof and Rojo as a backup, and I'll be pleased.
PS £50m is peanuts in todays market.
You won't be bullied perhaps but if we want him we'll get him, no offence but in the grand scheme of things a Leicester City side who just sold their best player is a far less attractive proposition than United.
they are when replacing him may cost just as much, as I said Evan has effectively replaced both Huth and Morgan, we already need another CB, if we sold Harry to we'd probably have to spend most of the fee on that player as Harry is key to what Puel wants to do
Kante had a release clause for around £25m for Cl clubs, CL clubs were interested but thankfully Chelsea weren't in the CL so had to bid higher, once they did we could refuse to sell at a lower price, we didin't have much choice for Kante, Riyad only had 2 years on his contract so we weren't in a position to hold out for more in a 1 club market yet still got top money for him
I don't disagree with that but unlike the sulky little semi-retired Algerian I very much doubt Maguire would go on strike over it
Oh I’m sure he would go about it in a more dignified manner alright. Fwiw, I’m happy for him to remain a Leicester player. I would have fecking loved Mahrez but that ship has sailed.
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