Maguire | he stays!
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
It doesn't help that our own fans constantly shit all over them.
Rejecting 30m for Maguire is insanity.
No it’s not- firstly because we don’t know the details of the bud, it could be 10m up front and 20m in add ons or late payments. We may have reasonably turned it down because we want more up front.
I think they will find a compromise in the fee and payment structure (if it’s part of the issue)
Not really. West Ham have a ton of a cash and are desperate for players. We can get £35m most likely.
We should request £40m for Maguire. If West Ham refuse, then we should just offer them £30m to take him from us.
So will there be a 35m bid today? We need to speed up the transfers, season is about to start
We've pretty much done all of our business in regards to incomings, especially in the starting XI. I do wonder if ten Hag will bring in a centre back if Maguire does go, though. I suspect he will.
Apologies for the delay and inconvenience caused. I’ll give West Ham a call immediately.
You're a tough negotiator. We want 40, but if you refuse we'll pay you 30 to take him
We probably need another useful midfielder. We essentially have only 4 of them (Cas, Bruno, Mount, Eriksen) and Mainoo. So the sooner we sign Amrabat or someone similar, the better.
Yeah definitely
He's 30, doesn't seem interested in getting first team football - willing to be benched for most of the season unless we have an injury crisis and isn't pushing to leave.
If he doesn't get a transfer this window, I doubt he'll be playing in the prem next season or once he leaves.
West Ham want him, but we won't accept the offer and I can't see Maguire - who has an high opinion of himself - taking a large paycut.
Until another club makes it clear that is all we have to go on, simple enough really.
Amrabat will sign once Fred & Donny go
Think we'll see two more. Amrabat and possibly Todibo.
Well no. It isn’t simple. Unless you’re his agent you have no clue who wants him and what offers are on the table. By your logic only Madrid publicly made an offer for Bellingham so only they wanted him.
We should absolutely hold out for a decent fee - Maguire would be West Hams' best CB and they've just stung Arsenal for £105m for Declan Rice. For all some love to hate him, he is still one of the first names on the team sheet for a good England side.
Same with McTominay, if relegated Southampton want £50m for Lavia then we should be holding out for a proper fee for McTominay. Another very solid footballer who's not quite good enough for us but would be one of West Hams' best players
Same with McTominay, if relegated Southampton want £50m for Lavia then we should be holding out for a proper fee for McTominay. Another very solid footballer who's not quite good enough for us but would be one of West Hams' best players
What are you defining as decent fee?
I'm sure if McTominay leaves this summer to West Ham he will be a Stoke/Championship player in 2-3 years time.
But we can only go on what is public.
Agreed but his career ain’t over though, just with us, can put in a good shift for a couple of years at WHU or someone like Everton/Fulham. Now if he goes to Saudi then yeah he is finished for sure.
And according to Romano multiple clubs are interested in Maguire.
They’re the United level of interested where they stay interested but never make a bid
In Moyes we trust. Make it happen.
I think we're overplaying our hand here, 30M for Maguire is a good deal. Maybe we can get 35M but surely we ain't getting 40M for him. For all the environment created around him I don't think it's worth to risk it for 5M.
Do they think they're going to get Neymar or Mbappe with the money? The players they're after are very good for the level they want to be at it which is a consistent Europa conference league finish.The West Ham trashing on Reddit is pretty brutal
Will Amrabat and Mainoo be enough to cover for McT, Donny and Fred's positions if they all leave?
Yeah I do think it will
I can't imagine we've rejected £30m outright for Maguire? I'm guessing we've rejected £60m for both Mctominay and Maguire. Maguire on his own at £30m is pretty much a guaranteed sell.
You missed Mount if we are comparing last year to this year and I think absolutely considering Donny barely played
Donny contributed nothing so he doesn't even need replacing
Donny played so little even before his injury and continues reports saying how Hannibal is also rated by ETH, the 10 mins at the end of game would better off to him and Mainoo when he is back, not some 27 year old backup.
By reports there were two separate bids of 30m each.
That’s why I don’t think McTominay will leave, VDB is clearly never going to be good enough even as back up nor would he be happy with that whilst Fred has 10 months left on his contract but McTominay clearly loves the club and is happy with a squad role.
I think Maguire leaves for West Ham but McTominay stays so we’d have Casemiro, Fernandes, Mount, Eriksen, Amrabat, McTominay, Mainoo and Mejbri as our midfield options this coming season.
Some of the posts here are embarassing on our outgoing offers. You want the club to build a spine and negotiate hard in transfers but at the same time asking the club to jump at the first offer they get. Maguire is an England international regular and just because he is not first choice at Manutd doesn't make him a bad defender at all levels of the league.
prob just that tough middle spot. It is a bit annoying how hard people seem to want to negotiate against united vs other squads. I do like the harder stance the club has been taking but just dont want to see maguire/mctominay not get sold and stop us from bringing in the quality players EtH needs. Think some of us are just worried we will see those two along with henderson still here come end of window. West ham in general though seem to be broke as hell right now based on how they are acting in the window
We don't need 8 players for 3 positions.
'Loves the club' is also loving his meal ticket. He'll never play for a club with this kind of profile again, unless Barca or Juve or someone pulls one of their periodic weird transfers and decides to sign him from (hopefully by then) West Ham on a free in order to give their 2nd string midfield some punch.