Are you though shouldn't you prefer the club hold out for more. Does it seem like westham are going anywhere?
Maguire | he stays!
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
Its one thing accepting a bid, and another thing the player actually wanting to move.
I think that money would be good for Maguire and McTominay. As much as I love the McTerminator, we need better options in central midfield.
I think that money would be good for Maguire and McTominay. As much as I love the McTerminator, we need better options in central midfield.
Sure we need that money as well. Time will tell and we can only hope the club make the right calls
With all the agents, intermediaries and 'teams' the players have access to, you wouldn't expect top level clubs to make offers for players without some knowledge of an interest to join.
70 million for two players surplus to requirements would be a great bit of business. Hope West Ham don't sack Dave and come to their senses.
Crazy to think they could spend three quarters of the Rice money on these two.
Crazy to think they could spend three quarters of the Rice money on these two.
Do you really believe West Ham are going in Blind with the bids for Maguire and Mctominay with out getting some sort of understanding about players terms and whether they are even interested in moving to West Ham or not . I find that hard to believe .
While I understand rejecting the Mctom bid, I do not understand this one. £30m plus those wages off the books is way more than we could have asked for. Nobody else will touch Maguire with a barge pole. We needed to allow this deal to be done yesterday.
Southampton value ward prowse at £40 million. a relegated player, yet fans think we should just accept any bid for Scott and Maguire. Starting players in a team who finished 2nd and 3rd in the league. This guys will be actually very good at west ham.
Maguire is better than 90% of EPL center backs.
That's good business. Maguire and McTominay are plenty good enough for West Ham.
Add another good player with remainder of Rice money and they're very much up on the deal.
Hmm, bit of a stretch.
How would you value a 5th choice cb on high wages that has turned 30?
How would you value the main center on an England team that went to the semi and final of the world cup and euros and in the same period was the main center back in a united team that finished 2nd and 3rd in the league in a market were Rice is what 100m and ward prowse is being priced at 40m pounds.
One of the best CBs in the league, just a little low on confidence now. If we loaned him elsewhere I'm sure he'd be worth the £80mill (if not more) in less than one season.
The West Ham trashing on Reddit is pretty brutal
A player not being good enough to lead united to the level it wants to be at doesn't make him toss. He'll start for every team that finished behind us last season.
He's a poor player who's 30. He makes massive mistakes every game, as he did in our last game. Sitting in a low block for England against fodder and then getting knocked out by decent teams isn't going to raise his price. Asking for £40 million is crazy, especially when he's not even wanted.
I would be perfectly happy with 30m!
Let´s agree to disagree on this
It’s not even slightly “stupid” if West Ham come back with a deal for 70m for the pair shortly, which I reckon they will.
I wouldn't go that far
Take the money. Please. Take the money.
McTominay started 24 league games when we finished 2nd and 20 when we finished 3rd. 20 was only behind Fred among CMs.
Assuming each team has 4 CBs, Maguire should be in top 8 CBs to be better than 90% of the CBs.
It would be brilliant business in that case! I sure hope you are right!
No. Not when we have to give him 8.5m to leave.
60M is great money for both considering that both are surplus, Mc Tominay is not good enough here and Maguire has completly lost his football.
If we can take more than 60 then great, but I would sell them asap in order for our group to be settled and focus on the season.
Nevertheless, with Moyes's style I'd rather see Maguire happy than Mc Tominay.
If we can take more than 60 then great, but I would sell them asap in order for our group to be settled and focus on the season.
Nevertheless, with Moyes's style I'd rather see Maguire happy than Mc Tominay.
Hyperbole!
He is not nearly as bad as people make out even though I want him gone.
For sure you can find some arguments for that valuation. Lucas Hernandez was bought by Bayern 80m€ the same season than Maguire and sold this summer to PSG for 45m€. He didn't get to play a ton of matches either (because of injuries), Maguire was much more available & used in fact.
I think that's stretching the comparison but it's not completely out there.
If United can squeeze an additional 5m, good for them. If West Ham walks and Maguire is still there come window closure, I think people here will liberally and rightfully criticize the direction.
How do you know only West Ham are in for him?
Yeah well of course people will do so cause it would be a proper feck up, literally costing us millions over the next 12 months and probably the Amrabat signing. If Westham walk away, we blew it.
Against teams who don’t press and only when facing away from goal. So basically not for any top level club.
Im not saying Smalling is better on the ball but Smalling understands his limits and didn’t take unnecessary risks like Maguire.
Varane doesn’t look as assured on the ball as Maguire but he is still a million times better. Maguire is far too over confident with the ball
Feck
Romano report there would be fresh rounds of talks for both Maguire and Scott so clearly West Ham are going to put something better on the table to get this done. We just need to hold still.
No he won't.
There, I have fixed it for you.
If we get anything approaching £70m for the pair I’ll hold my hat up and say we’ve negotiated very well.
Which isn’t something you could say about us selling players (Dan James aside) in the last few years, maybe decade even.
Yeah I forgot you lot finished behind us. Your defence is wank though.
If we get north of 65m for these, kudos to the negotiators in all honesty. I feel like we're potentially benefitting massively from WH's pretty abject window so far. They should have spent the Rice money before the deal was announced.