I doubt we are planning to spend £7m replacing the windows at Old Trafford. They won't even fix the roof.
Maguire | he stays!
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I doubt we are planning to spend £7m replacing the windows at Old Trafford. They won't even fix the roof.
As if. The amount his salary will drop will be like £50,000 plus a week and shifting his family to another part of the country. He's originally from Sheffield so would be further away from his roots. It's not as easy as people think.
And as for the 'hatred' towards him and his family that's all online nonsense. I can't imagine he has too many incidence in real life. He doesn't even manage his social media so probably blind to all the hatred thrown towards him.
I don't think he should dropped to the reserves. Keep the current status quo: 3rd choice rcb, 4th choice lcb. He's the one risking his England chances for his money (his right to choose of course).
I knew his wages would be a problem getting him sold to a mid table club. Where are all the "he's worth £30-40m" people?
I knew his wages would be a problem getting him sold to a mid table club. Where are all the "he's worth £30-40m" people?
You're right but why would Maguire (or anyone) be inclined to help them out.
It is maddening how much he was signed for and how he mostly performed, now he is doing this nonsense, united really should win some kind of award to how bad some of our signings have went over the years .
Give him his money. Not his fault the club agreed to that shitty contract.
It's actually being reported as high as £15 million.
Feck him. This decision is an admittance that he doesn't care about getting dropped for England, blasé attitude about wanting to actually get game time (because he won't be getting it if he stays) and wants to blackmail the club for money be knows would be invested to make an improvement to the team (shows a complete disdain about the club and it's journey for success.)
So he's lied about wanting to play, lied about respect and wanting to represent England, lied about his respect and love for the club.
He's a scab and deserves no respect from anyone.
Feck him. This decision is an admittance that he doesn't care about getting dropped for England, blasé attitude about wanting to actually get game time (because he won't be getting it if he stays) and wants to blackmail the club for money be knows would be invested to make an improvement to the team (shows a complete disdain about the club and it's journey for success.)
So he's lied about wanting to play, lied about respect and wanting to represent England, lied about his respect and love for the club.
He's a scab and deserves no respect from anyone.
This guy was Ronaldo's captain? No wonder Ronnie thought feck this
Well my joke crashed and burned.
Ah ok, in that case I've spoke with your boss. Apparently they don't like you. But not to worry, I've found you a new job, I'm sure you'll like it more but you'll take home 50% less money and you need to move 200 miles away. I'm sure you'll jump at the chance to move though, right?
He has every right to demand his money. I would do the same.
Inappropriate Behavior
Absolute cancer. I hate this cnut.
I was all against booing him. He tried his best.
Now he is actively making the club in a worse situation. I dont blame him for not wanting less money, but the consequences is him being booed and more disliked, and thats fair now imo.
Now he is actively making the club in a worse situation. I dont blame him for not wanting less money, but the consequences is him being booed and more disliked, and thats fair now imo.
Yes agree, but the fans has now all the right to show their dissatisfaction with him.
He's entitled to whatever his contract says or just to stay at the club even if the club doesn't want him. Whether that's because of money or because he doesn't want to relocate his family is a different matter... Shite for us, but whatever. He obviously doesn't care about his footballing career anymore
Reading the Guardian article, I still think this gets done.
United will take the £25m and give the remaining £5m to Maguire.
So long, good luck?
I don't recall saying good luck.
United will take the £25m and give the remaining £5m to Maguire.
So long, good luck?
I don't recall saying good luck.
We have found a perfect and new nickname for Maguire now..
he is asking 7 Mio for leaving?
Reminds me of that old Marx Brothers routine:
Spaulding: This is better than exploring! What do you fellows get an hour?
Ravelli: Oh, for playing we getta ten dollars an hour.
Spaulding: I see...What do you get for not playing?
Ravelli: Twelve dollars an hour.
Spaulding: Well, clip me off a piece of that.
Ravelli: Now, for rehearsing we make special rate. Thatsa fifteen dollars an hour.
Spaulding: That's for rehearsing?
Ravelli: Thatsa for rehearsing.
Spaulding: And what do you get for not rehearsing?
Ravelli: You couldn't afford it...Heh...you see, if we don't rehearse, we don't play...And, if we don't play...That runs into money.
Reminds me of that old Marx Brothers routine:
Spaulding: This is better than exploring! What do you fellows get an hour?
Ravelli: Oh, for playing we getta ten dollars an hour.
Spaulding: I see...What do you get for not playing?
Ravelli: Twelve dollars an hour.
Spaulding: Well, clip me off a piece of that.
Ravelli: Now, for rehearsing we make special rate. Thatsa fifteen dollars an hour.
Spaulding: That's for rehearsing?
Ravelli: Thatsa for rehearsing.
Spaulding: And what do you get for not rehearsing?
Ravelli: You couldn't afford it...Heh...you see, if we don't rehearse, we don't play...And, if we don't play...That runs into money.
And I really don't get why people don't understand that this is generally the cost of moving from a big club to a smaller club, which you as a player sometimes need to do because it's better for your career than sitting on the bench at a big club with "failure" virtually branded into your forehead. The player is perfectly entitled to prioritise the money and stay, but then there's a career and reputation cost to be paid. If he can persuade the selling club to take some of the sting out of it by making up some of the difference then he's fortunate, but it's not like this is something that can be expected. It is something that happens only exceptionally.
I am still optimistic, he will leave anytime soon. Especially after todays ETH interview where he says that “… if he’s not ready to fight he needs to go”, I think he’s losing patience with this dragging on.
We must find a solution for all parties, even if this means we’ll need to compensate him with a certain amount. Actually, I think this would be the best solution as we lose someone earning 200k per week, and can get immediately Pavard.
We must find a solution for all parties, even if this means we’ll need to compensate him with a certain amount. Actually, I think this would be the best solution as we lose someone earning 200k per week, and can get immediately Pavard.
Just pay him and get rid.
Yes?
If we pay 100M for Maguire to sign him to a 5 year contract, and a year later Real Madrid (stop laughing) express interest in him, and he pushes for a leave, we are well within our rights to tell him to
A. feck off and respect the contract
B. Ask Real to pay us 100M plus some, as we'll be needing the funds to replace Maguire
C. Pay a hefty fee out of pocket to walk away
What a greedy cnut.
We have been paying him huge wages for years, while 50% of the time he operated like a mid table player and costs us games.
We made him captain when large chunks of the team didnt respect or rate him.
Now instead of saying thank you and walking away for a great new start in London, he wants one last big pay cheque.
I didnt agree with all the abuse he got at stadiums, but if he does stay i hope he gets booed every second he touches the ball. See if the lump sum he wants is worth it then.
We have been paying him huge wages for years, while 50% of the time he operated like a mid table player and costs us games.
We made him captain when large chunks of the team didnt respect or rate him.
Now instead of saying thank you and walking away for a great new start in London, he wants one last big pay cheque.
I didnt agree with all the abuse he got at stadiums, but if he does stay i hope he gets booed every second he touches the ball. See if the lump sum he wants is worth it then.
He's entitled to get his money absolutely but I also think you can't really criticise if fans are angry at him and the boos start at Old Trafford.
He's not only sticking around, despite clearly being nowhere near good enough, but it means we can't bring in Parvard who would be a huge improvement and make us a better side.
He's not only sticking around, despite clearly being nowhere near good enough, but it means we can't bring in Parvard who would be a huge improvement and make us a better side.
If I would earn that amount of money I would not give a shit no. If the decision is to either sit on the bench for 90% of the games and earn more or play regular football and earn less the choice would be easy. But it seems he is a money grabbing cnut.
Totally agree, the club, Woodward, due to the Glazers rewarding failure, caused this mess. The money should come from their dividends.
Football agents do the negotiating, it's their job to get the best deal.
If I had been given a 5 year contract with £190k per year by some idiot, why would I walk away from it without getting the money I was promised?
I agree he is shite and doesn't deserve it though.
It's not really simply the cost, clubs pay players as part of leaving the club all the time, it just rarely gets reported on. And it's very rare players go to a club that will only pay them half of what they're currently on. That's on our football club giving him the big money in the first place, not him.
Of course you would. This idea that it's perfectly reasonable to walk away from half your expected earnings across the next two years to leave a club you don't even want to leave, to live somewhere you probably don't even want to live, is completely fecking insane.
players get sold all the time without getting the final year or two of their contractual obligation....why should 'arry be any different? why does he need to get paid out. This is just him and his agent being utter cnutsFootball agents do the negotiating, it's their job to get the best deal.
If I had been given a 5 year contract with £190k per year by some idiot, why would I walk away from it without getting the money I was promised?
I agree he is shite and doesn't deserve it though.
Guess he doesn't want to play football anymore.
Exactly, just do a city pay him under the table and get it over with.
But watch Murtough and Arnold try to make a point here.
To be quite fair, United fans are not used anymore at club players attracting that sort of interest or leaving without major financial loss.
Is it 7M or 15M that he wants? The first one is kinda ok. It is our fault that we gave him a big contract.
The second one means he gets almost all the money we owe him, which means he is ok to stay, if he doesn't get his money and he doesn't care if he gets selected for English NT or not.
The second one means he gets almost all the money we owe him, which means he is ok to stay, if he doesn't get his money and he doesn't care if he gets selected for English NT or not.
may or may not be true if we pay out his contract....however this is just a true reflection of what a shit person he is by sticking it to EtH b/c he dropped him and took his captaincy away
The costs to his career are overstated; he will find a place in a PL squad after his United days are over. Whether it's now or in 2 years. Plus, he's on the plane to the Euros next year.
He's not the one in a bind. We are.
between this and not being able to shift mctominay out means we are severely hampering our ability to bring in the extra reinforcements we need to play the way we want to play moving forward. Couldve brought in amrabat and whichever of the CBs we landed on for maguire replacement. Instead just a wasted year with whatever time they play. Really hope southgate grows some balls and doesnt select maguire. Would be ridiculous if he doesnt play any regular footy this year to go along with last year
I am not English so idc but imagine him fecking us now, getting no game time and continues to decrease and then Southgate STILL picks him and he fecks you over at the Euros too
15M is a stupid amount. He'd only make 20M if he stayed here for 2 years. I'd seriously prefer we kept him than let him go at that point.
He can play the carabao and opening rounds of the FA cup and sit on the bench all season if that's the case.
I also think he should get some pay off though, it's just the amount he's asking for which is a joke.
He can play the carabao and opening rounds of the FA cup and sit on the bench all season if that's the case.
I also think he should get some pay off though, it's just the amount he's asking for which is a joke.