Give over. Ten Hag won't be doing that. He literally put the guy on the bench yesterday. We also won't get another CB in, so he'll have no real choice but to put him on the bench, too.
Maguire is a meme. He's our new Phil Jones.
Maguire | he stays!
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Give over. Ten Hag won't be doing that. He literally put the guy on the bench yesterday. We also won't get another CB in, so he'll have no real choice but to put him on the bench, too.
Maguire is a meme. He's our new Phil Jones.
Kind of seen this coming after ETH's comments. As others said it's best we get in another CB now and completely faze this narcissistic fridge out for good.
It might set a precedent that we don't want to set. Might be good in the short term if we pay him off, but then every Bailly, Henderson, and VdB (at the least) will also start overplaying their hand.
Best to take a hard line on this I reckon.
He got inspired by Mbappe, earning loads by wasting a season in the reserves.
If Colwill is as good as people say, then he should lose his England spot irrespective of whether or not he is playing regularly for West Ham or sitting on our bench.
He already committed career suicide when he decided to be way too slow of both foot and thought to operate in a high line defence.
Equally it’s pretty standard for players on these ludicrous salaries to get paid off when they do drop down.
Far from Maguire’s biggest fan (and wish him a speedy recovery), but I don’t see too much wrong with what he’s done. Very few players actually play football because they love it that much. It’s a job at the end of the day and he wants to maximise all he’s getting out of it financially
He ought to realize that if he signs his next contract in 2 years time, there is zero chance that he gets 100k per week for 3 years. So there really aren't any lost wages, certainly not 7m pounds
It may make sense for him in the short run to stay and collect higher wages, but will be at an expense of earning any decent number once he becomes a free agent at the age of 32, that’s if someone is willing to pick him up at all.
A “guaranteed” 100K for 4 years at West Ham (plus some payoff from United) must be a better option than 190k for 2 years at United without any meaningful playing time plus, I don’t know, 50K per week for the remainder of his career playing for a team fighting relegation?
DDG is a potential case study of a free agent struggling to find a club due to high wage demand.
A “guaranteed” 100K for 4 years at West Ham (plus some payoff from United) must be a better option than 190k for 2 years at United without any meaningful playing time plus, I don’t know, 50K per week for the remainder of his career playing for a team fighting relegation?
DDG is a potential case study of a free agent struggling to find a club due to high wage demand.
Hes entitled to double the ££ hes being offered? He was being offered £7million! If i got that tomorrow id retire and be set for life!
At the end of the day hes under contract and can stay if he wants.. But he needs to realise he wont play, & will prob end up losing his England place for the Euros to a regular player. He seems to value his England role quite alot. If losing that and not playing any football is worth it for the ££, thats down to him.
What a cnut, sack him for the Greece incident.
Interesting, vicious cycle then isnt it.
the bold bit - Do you apply the same logic to the Glazers then? Are they also sticking it up to us because we haven't shown them love for over a decade?
There is no point lashing out at Maguire. He is entitled to receive whatever is mentioned in the contract. Clubs happily sign contracts and then try to shove players away when they’re not good enough.
The new West Ham contract, if he signs it, will be final one before he retires. He is being forced to play for West Ham where he has no chance of winning anything and has been asked to take a paycut on top of that. All that for the increased chance of playing in the Euros! Doesn't sound interesting. Pay him the 7m and get done with it.
The new West Ham contract, if he signs it, will be final one before he retires. He is being forced to play for West Ham where he has no chance of winning anything and has been asked to take a paycut on top of that. All that for the increased chance of playing in the Euros! Doesn't sound interesting. Pay him the 7m and get done with it.
Errrr they can only offer him to clubs, they can’t make them want him. If that was the case you could sell whoever you want, whenever you want. Doesn’t work like that unfortunately
I prefer bringing some rando from the youth teams instead of wasting my time any further with Maguire.
The only job at would give him at the club would be to clean the toilets at Carrington.
He's entitled to sit and stay on the wages he's on if he wants.
Is there some sort of competition going on here for who can write the dumbest post or something?
You're a muggle Harry.
Hard nosed businessmen don't typically give a feck about anything but their bottom line. Footballers generally do care about what their fans think of them.
You`re a lizard Harry.
I'd be surprised if it's the last contract, in fact I would worry about United bench shortening his career.
This is how seasons get ruined. Get rid of him as soon as possible before the dressing room atmosphere tanks.
Maguire shouldn't get any kind of pay off. You get paid more when you trade up in sports, you should take less when you trade down. If you fail you accept the financial consequences
Could we tear up his contract for gross misconduct? Was he ever prosecuted for what happened?
All right, this is a bit black and white but the club has a contractual obligation to Maguire. If they want to unilaterally terminate that contract, then Maguire is within his rights to demand payment. The difference between his wage at West Ham and his wage at United equals the amount of his damages and he should be made whole. Having said that, I'm sure there will be a compromise and Maguire will go.
f he sees out his contract you'd think he's at risk of only getting an offer from the Championship, should mean his England career done too.
He was inspired by Erik's rallying cry
I agree tbh. I wouldn't leave that amount of money on the table.
So he gets rewarded for not being good enough?
Watch him get injured against Everton today
The contract is awarded based on him providing a service, usually in a normal contract there are performance requirements regarding level of service alongside the requirement to provide the service. This doesn't appear to be the same in football related contracts, and is obviously very subjective of course. In the real world there are mechanisms to terminate a normal contract for not providing the service to the level required, if we look at it that way is he providing the service that should be expected from a record signing, and very well remunerated, player? Arguably not.
So whereas you are right in that he can ask to be "made whole", it is very easy to argue that he doesn't deserve to be "made whole", since he ins't performing to a level that should be expected. He is lucky that contracts don't appear to have penalties for general performance related issues. So are the club though in reality, since if a player blows up the club could get multiple seasons at a cheaper rate than normal.
Wouldn’t blame him if sees out his contract. Contracts are set up to protect both player and club.
If anything blame OGS and Woodward ….they signed him.
If anything blame OGS and Woodward ….they signed him.
He is playing chicken with United. He has to be pretty stupid to think that sitting on the bench at this critical juncture of his career is a good move.
If he runs out his contract, he will land up being like Lingard, training at some former club in the summer and looking for a new contract.
His contract runs out in 2026.
He will be too old to be of value to a PL club by then if he does a Borgade.
most probably. Plus fans chanting his name last night.Why would we do that when we can get 20+ million for him today?
2025 surely. He didn't sign a 7 year deal!
He’s an employee given a contract by the club for extremely high wages. He’s about to sign one last contract which promises him lower wages. Why shouldn’t he seek a payout from the club? If your current employers wants to get rid of you, would any of the forum members happily leave their jobs without negotiating a decent severance?
Before raining the abuses, we should see him as a human being who’s asking for what he’s genuinely due. If as a professional, he decides to earn his bucks here than play at West Ham and strengthen his England case, the only reason he’s able to do that is because of our own incompetence.
Ultimately, I’m quite sure that a compromise will be reached and he’ll be off to West Ham. They can bluff all they want but they aren’t moving on to anyone else.
Before raining the abuses, we should see him as a human being who’s asking for what he’s genuinely due. If as a professional, he decides to earn his bucks here than play at West Ham and strengthen his England case, the only reason he’s able to do that is because of our own incompetence.
Ultimately, I’m quite sure that a compromise will be reached and he’ll be off to West Ham. They can bluff all they want but they aren’t moving on to anyone else.
He's getting the remuneration that we deemed good enough. We signed him at 180k per week on a long term deal - that's on us. Not him.
Fear not, lads. Special board meeting in upcoming days.
When you have that many arguments of volume and percentage, compromise is reachable.
When you have that many arguments of volume and percentage, compromise is reachable.
This is the worst news I could get yet today. With the shit midfield showcased last night, I’m now even more convinced this bloke should never leave the bench again- imagine how many circles the Wolves would’ve ran around this statue of a footballer.
Really bad taste in my mouth. We need dynamic players with strong mentality. Maguire is the perfect opposite.
Really bad taste in my mouth. We need dynamic players with strong mentality. Maguire is the perfect opposite.