Ok everyone pete and pogue have spoken, anyone who gets a silly booking in future shall get an extra ban.
Madrid's deliberate red cards
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I think you know exactly what I'm talking about when I mention skulduggery.
Agree with the bit in bold.
Pogue if this had been done by pretty much any team other than Mourinho's Madrid you wouldn't give two shits.
No, not "silly" booking, "deliberate" booking.
There's an important difference between the two.
Funny but worse than what Suarez did. Hope they get punished.
Clever on the face of it, but I hope UEFA use their unsporting conduct article. Make them look like muppets
Clever on the face of it, but I hope UEFA use their unsporting conduct article. Make them look like muppets
Which rule is that, then?
Funny but worse than what Suarez did. Hope they get punished.
Clever on the face of it, but I hope UEFA use their unsporting conduct article. Make them look like muppets
Sorry but that's flat out retarded.
Okay, anyone time wasting, a bit like we are often guilty of?
Eh?
I'd feel exactly the same about every other team we could face in the next round of the cup.
Why is it weird or strange that I would be pleased if it turned out they were missing two important players in the next round?
So you think Uefa should go dish out extra bans as they feel like?
I suggest you really understand the definition of "cheating".
How in the hell was that cheating ? Who did they cheat ? Don't tell me me Ajax cause then I'd really laugh at you.
Mourinho complaining about refs giving out yellow cards at the end of games, whilst he's been caught on camera telling his players to get yellow cards.
Sums up the class of the man, if you're going to do it, don't complain about it afterwards.
Sums up the class of the man, if you're going to do it, don't complain about it afterwards.
I can't understand the fuss or discussion this is generating.
Why is it a massive deal? The rules should be changed to stop this happening again, and this is not the first time, nor the last, nor is it exclusive to this competition, and neither is Mourinho the only manager to encourage it.
A combination of three things: 2 Red cards over one, Mourinho, Real Madrid.
That's why this is going on so long I reckon.
I bet if Bayern had done this there would be about 10 posts on the matter.
Oh for feck's sake. You're being deliberately obtuse now.
You know exactly what went on in that game. Why play dumb?
(I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here and assuming you're acting dumb)
Eh?
I'd feel exactly the same about every other team we could face in the next round of the cup.
Why is it weird or strange that I would be pleased if it turned out they were missing two important players in the next round?
Your indignation seems to be based mostly around the fact that you just don't like Madrid.
I don't have a problem understanding that you'd like them to be without important players if we were going to face them, but the fact that you want them to be punished for breaking imaginary rules is what comes across as daft. At the end of the day they broke one rule, time wasting, and they were punished for it by way of a yellow card. End of story.
Jesus wept.
This is like talking about football in a special needs class.
Unlike phelan's shorts, I'm not giving you any benefit of any doubt...
I think I'm going to stay away from this one because I can't even see how the two incidents can be compared!
I wonder who were more pissed off. Ghana, or Ajax.
Wanting to get punished is not cheating.
Bold = bingo.
The fact that it's pre-meditated makes it worse, Suarez' was totally instinctive. You could argue that it made no impact on the match compared to Suarez', but that's not the point - we don't know the impact it could have in the next matches. RM could lose a game when the two players are missing or win a game they could've be suspended for. It shouldn't be overlooked that there are millions of pounds at stake and the prize of the biggest club tournament in the world.
Just because you can't see the potential effects, doesn't mean there aren't any, or that they aren't significant. They wouldn't have got sent off otherwise...
There's nothing wrong with this in terms of rules. Nothing. It was unprofessional and they got carded for unprofessional behavior. Both Alonsos cards were unprofessional. Can't remember what Ramos did for the first yellow.
Now if either of them get a red in this competition again they will get a longer ban than if they haven't got a red that game.
Now if either of them get a red in this competition again they will get a longer ban than if they haven't got a red that game.
Actually I'm pointing out the idiocy of your point, a deliberate yellow is a deliberate yellow, you cant ban one and not another for deliberately cheating and getting booked now can you?
Oh my god I'm going to lose my mind
All managers in the world do that, not only Mourinho.
I'm not saying he's the only one to do it, just that he's the only one to have been named and shamed by his own player.
In all honesty though, I've never seen it so obviously carried out as Alonso and Ramos did last night.
UEFA have said its disciplinary unit will look at the incidents after receiving the referee's official report.
Why would they bother if they don't feel there is a case to answer?
Why would they bother if they don't feel there is a case to answer?
Okay, but their pre-meditated offenses didn't effect anyone as of now or that particular match. It could have future consquences, depending on if either player gets another yellow card, then they should have been off. That's if.
Suarez denied a certain victory, effected the current game and the entire competition afterwards, in the sense that his team went through, not Ghana. There's no ifs or buts, or what about it, he cheated Ghana out of their place.
Suarez denied a certain victory, effected the current game and the entire competition afterwards, in the sense that his team went through, not Ghana. There's no ifs or buts, or what about it, he cheated Ghana out of their place.
As people have to keep pointing out in threads like this, football is governed by laws, not rules. The difference is quite important.
As it happens, I actually don't feel very strongly about this, believe it or not. As you can see from my first post in the thread.
I would be pleased if they got an extra ban for blatantly taking the piss but I won't hold my breath, nor will I be bothered if they get away with it.
We know it's a waste of time with Cal, who backed Barca to win the CL final against Man Utd and saw nothing wrong with that. As in a recent thread some people have no idea of the concept of cheating.
Pre-mediated vs planned means absolutely feck all.
If someone nutmegged a player whilst winning 4-0 and in his instinctive rage he flew in studs up and broke a players leg, would you say the Madrid players actions are worse because they were planned? No, so let's not confuse forethought with severity, eh?
Suarez cheated a team out of a (more than likely) match winning goal in the world cup.
Real Madrid had two of their players waste time so as to pick up an extra yellow card and dictate their suspensions be at a more convenient time for themselves.
You think the second is worse. That's stupid.
Whole Poland is in ecstasy, because Mourinho had told Dudek what Alonso and Ramos had to do.
And now he's admired in Poland!
feck, sometimes I really can't stop laughing when it comes to making our footballers the greatest in the world. Welcome to Poland, that's our media. But that's when your players are shit and even a talk with Mourinho and later with Casillas can make front pages in many newspapers.
And now he's admired in Poland!
feck, sometimes I really can't stop laughing when it comes to making our footballers the greatest in the world. Welcome to Poland, that's our media. But that's when your players are shit and even a talk with Mourinho and later with Casillas can make front pages in many newspapers.
Because the disciplinary unit looks at a number of things but this is the one the press asked about?
And they didn't say they will look into it. They said they will do it if the ref says in his report there's something to look at.
It's a matter of point of view.It's not as if these disciplinary groups are 100% spot on.Sometimes they harshly (or not harshly) give judgments on many different things.
How is the difference important? They didn't break any laws other than the ones they were booked for, so it actually makes zero difference. Something which people keep having to point out in this thread but other don't want to listen to.
If you want to blame someone for this scenario, blame the law makers for leaving this pretty blatant loophole open.
Who started the Suarez comparison? I want to delete them.
Whole Poland is in ecstasy, because Mourinho had told Dudek what Alonso and Ramos had to do.
And now he's admired in Poland!
feck, sometimes I really can't stop laughing when it comes to making our footballers the greatest in the world. Welcome to Poland, that's our media. But that's when your players are shit and even a talk with Mourinho and later with Casillas can make front pages in many newspapers.
Love that little caption, it makes it as obvious and damning as it gets, not that it wasn't an obvious set-up anyway.I bet Madrid will claim Jose was merely passing on what he was having for supper later on and get off because nobody can prove otherwise.
What's really retarded about the last page of this thread is that every single fecker posting has seen the video and knows exactly what went on last night. Now some of them are playing dumb for some reason. Wtf?
Hmnmmm... Maybe you weren't pretending after all...
Ahh so now you have no answer to common sense you do your usual of resorting to petty insults.
I must say it took a record amount of time to get here, your getting better.
I bet Madrid will claim Jose was merely passing on what he was having for supper later on and get off because nobody can prove otherwise.
Finally people are starting to see the point.
Unless either Mourinho, Dudek, Casillas or Ramos were wearing a wire there is only circumstantial evidence.