Television Mad Men | SPOILERS

I've heard for a curveball that Draper will be having sex with someone other than his wife in this season.
 
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Draper, you diabolical...
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Yeah, think my Mrs is in dire need of her Don Draper fix...fine by me as long as we get plenty of Trudy (Alison Brie) this Season! :drool:
 
Back and in top form already. Nothing matches the dialogue of Mad Men. I think we will see more of the lady on the plane. Lou is an awful replacement for Don. His pitch for the watches was the essence of Draper- Genius.
 
Decent first episode of the new season, though I'm not too fond of the dozens of women constantly falling at Don's feet. It's a bit repetitive by now. We know that Don cheats on his wives, it's been established that he's a douche, let the story be about something else. I'd love it if he experienced more mental breakdowns or suffered drinking problems. It would be new, fresh and add to the Don Draper character. Randomly meets woman, shags her, ends it - been there, done that.
 
Swearengen said:
Decent first episode of the new season, though I'm not too fond of the dozens of women constantly falling at Don's feet. It's a bit repetitive by now. We know that Don cheats on his wives, it's been established that he's a douche, let the story be about something else. I'd love it if he experienced more mental breakdowns or suffered drinking problems. It would be new, fresh and add to the Don Draper character. Randomly meets woman, shags her, ends it - been there, done that.
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I'd contend it was very different this time around, and it is new and fresh for Don Draper. The best way to introduce season 7 Don was surely to observe the changes in machinations to the old Don, and we had three deliberate scenes - with his wife, Pete and the woman on the plane - which demonstrated the extent to which the Don Draper rhythm is gone. The episode reminded me of the pilot in some ways; we see Don 'by day', we presume to understand him, then that exterior is all put into context at the end.

'Don Draper', it seems, exists only on the surface now, a facade performed in public. He continues to project prosperity onto his wife ("can't I buy you an expensive gift?"), keeps up appearances with Pete ("y'know, I'm keeping busy"), and even polishes his shoes and puts on his suit for a couch meeting with Freddie. In the case of seducing the woman on a plane, he said the same lines he would have in the past, yet when she practically offered himself, he couldn't go through with it, distantly reflecting that he "had to go to work". That work was just the cold isolation of his apartment revealed the extent to which his soul is adrift. Even when he picks up the brandy bottle, he puts it down upon recalling the woman's husband who'd died, as though he doesn't even have the conviction to get drunk anymore.

This is the Don he was unravelling towards last season, and now it's been realised. It's the most introspective and raw we've seen him, and I like this direction. In the past, when he read the prose on the television that dwelt on the idea of utopia and how a man might find fulfilment on 'a chicken farm', he'd have studied it for its angle. This time, he was contemplating what it was saying. He's a man who's pushed people away, but now they no longer need him, he needs them - or at least he needs them to need him. That Peggy, the show's other protagonist also collapsed into despair at the end of the episode as Don did, really moved into 'final season' gear in my opinion.
 
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elisha27 said:
I'd contend it was very different this time around, and it is new and fresh for Don Draper. The best way to introduce season 7 Don was surely to observe the changes in machinations to the old Don, and we had three deliberate scenes - with his wife, Pete and the woman on the plane - which demonstrated the extent to which the Don Draper rhythm is gone. The episode reminded me of the pilot in some ways; we see Don 'by day', we presume to understand him, then that exterior is all put into context at the end.

'Don Draper', it seems, exists only on the surface now, a facade performed in public. He continues to project prosperity onto his wife ("can't I buy you an expensive gift?"), keeps up appearances with Pete ("y'know, I'm keeping busy"), and even polishes his shoes and puts on his suit for a couch meeting with Freddie. In the case of seducing the woman on a plane, he said the same lines he would have in the past, yet when she practically offered himself, he couldn't go through with it, distantly reflecting that he "had to go to work". That work was just the cold isolation of his apartment revealed the extent to which his soul is adrift. Even when he picks up the brandy bottle, he puts it down upon recalling the woman's husband who'd died, as though he doesn't even have the conviction to get drunk anymore.

This is the Don he was unravelling towards last season, and now it's been realised. It's the most introspective and raw we've seen him, and I like this direction. In the past, when he read the prose on the television that dwelt on the idea of utopia and how a man might find fulfilment on 'a chicken farm', he'd have studied it for its angle. This time, he was contemplating what it was saying. He's a man who's pushed people away, but now they no longer need him, he needs them - or at least he needs them to need him. That Peggy, the show's other protagonist also collapsed into despair at the end of the episode as Don did, really moved into 'final season' gear in my opinion.
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Good post.
 
I think this show is officially tedious now. Last season was largely pointless bar some good individual episodes and I am already struggling to see what this shortened season of 7 episodes will accomplish. May be it is just me because I seem to have lost almost any interest in Don Draper the character as to what happens to him. They can't seem to do anything new with Peggy either, may be the point is that this is stuck in this loop to be let down by men in her life or work place but there is no value in watching it over and over again. Would have been good to watch the season start with her in position of power.
 
elisha27 said:
I'd contend it was very different this time around, and it is new and fresh for Don Draper. The best way to introduce season 7 Don was surely to observe the changes in machinations to the old Don, and we had three deliberate scenes - with his wife, Pete and the woman on the plane - which demonstrated the extent to which the Don Draper rhythm is gone. The episode reminded me of the pilot in some ways; we see Don 'by day', we presume to understand him, then that exterior is all put into context at the end.

'Don Draper', it seems, exists only on the surface now, a facade performed in public. He continues to project prosperity onto his wife ("can't I buy you an expensive gift?"), keeps up appearances with Pete ("y'know, I'm keeping busy"), and even polishes his shoes and puts on his suit for a couch meeting with Freddie. In the case of seducing the woman on a plane, he said the same lines he would have in the past, yet when she practically offered himself, he couldn't go through with it, distantly reflecting that he "had to go to work". That work was just the cold isolation of his apartment revealed the extent to which his soul is adrift. Even when he picks up the brandy bottle, he puts it down upon recalling the woman's husband who'd died, as though he doesn't even have the conviction to get drunk anymore.

This is the Don he was unravelling towards last season, and now it's been realised. It's the most introspective and raw we've seen him, and I like this direction. In the past, when he read the prose on the television that dwelt on the idea of utopia and how a man might find fulfilment on 'a chicken farm', he'd have studied it for its angle. This time, he was contemplating what it was saying. He's a man who's pushed people away, but now they no longer need him, he needs them - or at least he needs them to need him. That Peggy, the show's other protagonist also collapsed into despair at the end of the episode as Don did, really moved into 'final season' gear in my opinion.
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Such a poetic post, good job. And while you do make some strong points, I do believe you may be reading a bit too much into it. If they go down the same path with Don showing signs of mental breakdowns and shagging everything that moves, little will have been accomplished that hadn't already been so. But again, good post and hopefully you're right.
 
Quality episode. I'd say that final scene ranks among the best moments of the show.
 
If they end the series well than I would unequivocally have it as the best show ever, and not in a tie with 'The Wire'. I am in love with it.

Sally has quietly become one of my favorite characters in the show.

"Do you know how hard it was for me to go to your apartment. I could have run into that woman. I could be in the elevator, she could get in and I would have to stand there..smiling, wanting to vomit, while I smell her hair spray."
 
Yeah all the Don and Sally scenes were great.

Is Pete's new woman supposed to look like Betty's clone? Even though she's basically the anti-Betty?
 
I guess we all had the same copy :D

Fantastic episode again, that look on Don's face when Sally said that was brilliant, Jon Hamm is excellent.

Sally is also a lovely character, very nice how they've been writing her and trusting a kid with such an important part for quite a few seasons.
 
What a great episode, Mad Men at its best. The conference call scene was hilarious, and the last scene between Don and Sally was great. She's a brilliant little actress, star in the making.

It's a shame how underrated this is by the general public, it pisses all over Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones.
 
Cina said:
What a great episode, Mad Men at its best. The conference call scene was hilarious, and the last scene between Don and Sally was great. She's a brilliant little actress, star in the making.

It's a shame how underrated this is by the general public, it pisses all over Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones.
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I can understand the Breaking Bad love in, and it did have some fantastic moments and great acting even though it got silly towards the end. GoT is just blockbuster entertainment with loads of filler and some tits, I can understand why some people would enjoy it (though there's a lot of boring stuff to get through before the actual 'wow' moments and some horrible acting) but why they would rank it amongst the best is beyond me.

I don't really mind that Mad Men isn't more appreciated, I mean it's not mainstream and it's a show that requires a lot patience which isn't a virtue in our society anymore, but I do agree with Archie with Archie's point that it baffles me that some just say it's "all style" or even "style over substance". There's tons of substance.
 
The ones who say it all style are idiots. The way the creators tie the show with the happenings and changes in American society during the time period is spectacular.
 
Roger's a true bro.

That was really akward, glad they went down that road.

Again, the one who is ripping the show cut it off before the credits started. I wanted to hear The Jimi Hendrix Experience!
 
:lol: We're obviously following the same pirate. Damn his scurvy hide.

Was a very cool episode, the cutting between Don and Betty and Bobby (what a little cnut) felt very ominous. There's going to be a big mess when Lou and Don get to it.
 
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