Television Mad Men | SPOILERS

Scrumpet said:
I don't really like talking about 'Don' and 'Dick' like that. It's simplifying it too much I think, he's always been and always will be a mixture of the two I expect.

It might not end well, but finally sharing something about his life with his kids is a step in the right direction.
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I think a lot of "Don Draper" was a public persona. The poster for season 6 showed two "Dons" walking in opposite directions, in fact one of the best lines came from Roger, when he talked about Draper talking "in that hick accent" when he has a few drinks in him.
 
Last 2-3 episodes sort of redeemed the season a bit, but overall still was an under par season. Really like the last episode though, a lot of character arcs made sense. Also would like the show to take a longish time jump now when it starts next season. More than an year at least
 
crappycraperson said:
Last 2-3 episodes sort of redeemed the season a bit, but overall still was an under par season. Really like the last episode though, a lot of character arcs made sense. Also would like the show to take a longish time jump now when it starts next season. More than an year at least
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I'm not sure it'll make it to the 70s, I think Weiner will be keen to keep the whole thing enclosed within the 60s.
 
The last few episodes were very good, yeah. Although the only thing that felt like a finale was Don's storyline. A lot of other stuff seemed standard enough.
 
Archie Leach said:
I'm not sure it'll make it to the 70s, I think Weiner will be keen to keep the whole thing enclosed within the 60s.
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Yeah, a time jump longer than a couple of months just isn't going to happen with this show. I can see the show spilling over into 1970 though, to show the death of the 60s, the cultural change and how it mirrors certain characters' demise or new beginning etc blah blah blah.

I expect that at the start of season 7 Megan will be in California, effectively divorced from Don.
 
Yeah I want Megan gone, never liked the character.

The show has definitely jumped forward quite a bit between seasons before though. It's been over two years since mid season five now (the WC 66 final).
 
Apparently,

Season 1: March 1960 - November 1960
Season 2: February 1962 - October 1962
Season 3: April 1963 - December 1963
Season 4: November 1964 - October 1965
Season 5: May 1966 - Spring 1967
Season 6: December 1967 - November 1968

Yeah, bigger gaps than I thought, though I still think we can be pretty sure they aren't skipping '69.
 
I might just be finished with this now TBH. I really liked the first few seasons but it ended up being pretty monotonous and if I'm honest I fast forwarded a lot of the scenes because I was so bored with them.
 
I enjoyed this season as it unraveled more about Don's character. He is my favorite TV character of all time and I liked that the season focused on providing an insight into the real Don. The man behind the mask. Thee circumstances that made Don who he is today. Quiet a few scenes from the season were simply brilliant and will remain etched in my memory for sometime.

Would be interesting to see where Weiner takes the story line in the last season and ends the series. I am glad that I have no idea.
 
There's only one season left, and whilst I don't enjoy it as much as I used to, I see no point in not watching it, especially after watching all six so far.
 
Next season Don will be back with a vengeance, and they will all pay.

Or more likely, he'll drink himself to death.
 
He's a fecking spacker. No matter what joy he or others around him have found in their life he always goes out of his way to ruin it for everyone. He doesn't have a shred of decency, and when you think he's about to do something decent he either fecks it up, regrets it, or you find it was only done for some self serving purpose in the first place. He's become a boring character who hasn't developed since the first episode. He's changed jobs, moved house, got sacked, divorced, remarried, fecked everyone, been found out and he's still exactly the same.

The only character in the show who has shown significant development is Peggy.
 
Irwynwastheking said:
He's a fecking spacker. No matter what joy he or others around him have found in their life he always goes out of his way to ruin it for everyone. He doesn't have a shred of decency, and when you think he's about to do something decent he either fecks it up, regrets it, or you find it was only done for some self serving purpose in the first place. He's become a boring character who hasn't developed since the first episode. He's changed jobs, moved house, got sacked, divorced, remarried, fecked everyone, been found out and he's still exactly the same.

The only character in the show who has shown significant development is Peggy.
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Did you bang the seasons out or did you watch the show as it was broadcast? I have found myself to enjoy shows less when I watch them in a go.

Whose joy has he actually ruined? He helped Peggy when she needed it. He helped Joan. He gave up his chance to go to California so that Ted can go there and doesn't have to break his family. Anna?

Don is a complicated character. Through out the show he has reinvented himself, unfortunately to fall into the same trap again. He grew up in difficult circumstances. His mother died while giving him birth. His father died. He lived his formative years in a whore house. Yet, he made it to the top, whilst with a different identity and through some manipulation. The show depicts the constant need for the character to discover himself.

He is a provider, he is a father, he is a creator, he is an executive. Though he is lacks in one way or the other in each of them. Being a perfectionist that is not good enough for him and then he goes on these wild chases to fulfill himself. Which eventually leads him to despair and more sadness. The show depicts the constant struggle of the character. The conflict with in each on of us. Even after getting everything, in business and in life, he still finds himself sad and lonely after. He enjoys the chase, however he doesn't have the ability to enjoy his achievements. Which leads him to move on to the next thing.
 
Exactly. He's an ass.

Also, I watched the first five seasons in a burst. I really enjoyed the first few but it lessened as it went on.
 
If you don't enjoy the character of Don Draper watching Mad Men seems a bit pointless.
 
acnumber9 said:
If you don't enjoy the character of Don Draper watching Mad Men seems a bit pointless.
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I said this just above ac!

Irwynwastheking said:
I might just be finished with this now TBH. I really liked the first few seasons but it ended up being pretty monotonous and if I'm honest I fast forwarded a lot of the scenes because I was so bored with them.
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I like some of the side characters and I like their stories, but Don just gets on my wick so much that I'm thinking of quitting. That said there is only one season left...so...
 
Irwynwastheking said:
I said this just above ac!



I like some of the side characters and I like their stories, but Don just gets on my wick so much that I'm thinking of quitting. That said there is only one season left...so...
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There are some other good characters, particularly Roger Sterling but Mad Men is a show more dominated by it's main protagonist than just about any I can think of outside of perhaps 24. I don't think I could've watched this far if I hated him. As it goes I think he's great to watch though you probably wouldn't want to work with him. I would like to be him for a day though. Maybe even a week.
 
acnumber9 said:
There are some other good characters, particularly Roger Sterling but Mad Men is a show more dominated by it's main protagonist than just about any I can think of outside of perhaps 24. I don't think I could've watched this far if I hated him. As it goes I think he's great to watch though you probably wouldn't want to work with him. I would like to be him for a day though. Maybe even a week.
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The hate hasn't always been there dude. It's developed over the last few seasons really. At first I thought it was really interesting but it was the same thing over and over.
 
Irwynwastheking said:
Exactly. He's an ass.

Also, I watched the first five seasons in a burst. I really enjoyed the first few but it lessened as it went on.
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That doesn't make him an ass, it makes him human.

He is the best looking guy in most settings; he can get any women he want, he is better at his job as a creative director than anyone else, he worked his way to a partnership at a top Madison avenue advertising firm. Yet he has his flaws. Even after having everything, he feels empty due to his inability to connect with humans and revel in his achievements. At times you can't help but get angry at him. Yet you always end up rooting for him.

Don is the show. If you don't like him, you don't like the show.
 
Just started watching and got 1 episode left of season 1. I'm not a huge fan of it but as it has so much hype I'm trying to give it a real good chance. At the moment it feels like a well written soap. Just a bunch of dicks sleeping around with each other. Normally stuff comes to a head in shows like these but there is feck all happening. Does it get better?
 
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