@Vato said:
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A manager's legacy are the things you put in a trophy cabinet.
This is utter trash. First of all that is a very success driven way of looking at football. Not every club in football are born to win trophies, are you then saying that none of these clubs have a legacy? Are you saying that someone like Pearson wasn't important to Ranieri at Leicester?
Have you seen our possession this season? 58.8 %, the highest in the league. Yet, we obviously play much better football without van gaal. Are you genuinely telling me that with this, coupled with the youngsters he bought through, mixed with the players he changed positions & the few signings that are now looking good - that he has had no foundation?
Don't be so deluded.
Jose is even starting to play with 3 defenders again because he knows LVG isn't a damn idiot but he is too strict with his own ideas & takes away freedom from the team.
You will notice that Bayern & Barcelona hardly ever change their formation. Why should they, when they have been successful? You do know that after being with the greatest manager for 20 consecutive years that this club needed a platform? That this club had to move away from the SAF shadow and tactics and build a new identity while carrying an ethos.
What did LVG say then? His football is about a philosophy, an idea - & after SAF, we greatly needed a new idea.
Now I go back to Barcelona & Bayern & why they are so special. Because they rarely change their philosophy & if they change their tactics it's normally an alteration of the base formation - even under different manager's. Now sooner or later in a duration of 5-10 years - playing within one system of understanding and ideas is going to be better than having 4 different managers coming in and playing 4 different types of football. Eventually this football will peak. It happened to Barcelona - then it happened to Bayern.
It will happen to United next & I can bet my life on it & while all of you will be celebrating over the success we have got through the wonders of Jose or any other manager in the future - all that fans like me will do & spare an applause for LVG for putting a structure in place for a club that kind of needed it.
Again - he isn't a Godly manager with 100%,perfect ideas and all success should be attributed to him - he is an influential manager however who has influenced probably the best list of footballers any manager has ever & also has one of the best CV's on the planet for exactly the same reason.
He is a Manger who is bought in to clubs in desperation. He is the Sam allardyce of the big clubs.
I mean fair enough you can't see it mate; as usual some fans will show just as much negligence as we show appreciation. Some people are just inclined to move in to a flat or house & forget the fact that someone else lived there. Likewise - just as much as Jose to this day still has a minute influence on the way Chelsea play under Conte - the same is being seen here at United after LVG.
Players and an organization don't have hard drive memories where things are erased and restarted.
Just if you ever do wonder why - you are seeing on occasion Jose using formations that LVG used, you are seeing players who were promoted or bought under LVG, you are seeing possession football without the lack of freedom? Then maybe you will see what LVG brings; if you don't then fair enough - it is just not for you.
I really just want a thread we can discuss LVG's tenure for his fans - without getting called stupid or people laughing at us all the time.
. In all seriousness, last week, this thread was bumped for the first time in three months, isn't that something mods/admin want to avoid with regards to bumping old threads?
