Being the manager, he's obviously responsible in some way, but Chelsea is a unique atmosphere; reading about Ancelotti's experience was very interesting. Roman's not very easy to work under.
LVG Out Thread | BBC: Sacked!
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran discuss a horrific month of December and a depressing FOUR defeats in a row - the latest coming against Wolves and Newcastle.
They discuss how much blame is on Ruben Amorim and rank our squad against other Premier League teams.
Do we have any chance of avoiding defeat at Anfield?
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the full story obviously has not come out. But even Chelsea fans blame player power at the least.
He had a poor season sure. That in no way makes him a poor manager. The new manager Chelsea appoint will start with a huge handicap of working with the deadwoods there and a scum of an owner.
I think it's the Chelsea players who are responsible for their shitty season and they are also responsible for getting Jose out. Player power .
It's just funny as you painted him as the white knight to save our club from the mess lvg has left, when he did even worse than lvg and left a bigger mess.
I don't agree at all
But maybe it was a once off and he will have learnt a lot. I expect that will be the case in fairness,I don't see him having a worse season with a big club,
We will find out very soon either way
He is no white knight....fortunately. He is simply the best manager in the world atm.
And you would do better just to say you hate him.
Rest up!
I hate him more than Moyes. At least Moyes had the excuse of naivety of not having experience of being at a top club.
This guy is a serial bullshitter, and thinks its perfectly acceptable to feed us any excuse under the sun because we'll swallow it whatever. He insults our intelligence daily with his claims of reaching expectations.
I hate the board even more for allowing this to happen and for their complete contempt and disregard for the fanbase that got them where they are today.
This guy is a serial bullshitter, and thinks its perfectly acceptable to feed us any excuse under the sun because we'll swallow it whatever. He insults our intelligence daily with his claims of reaching expectations.
I hate the board even more for allowing this to happen and for their complete contempt and disregard for the fanbase that got them where they are today.
Well, we'll soon know if we're stuck with LVG for another season.
The only problem is that Mourinho won't wait any longer and I am not a big fan of Mourinho 'the man' , but I feel that Mou 'the manager' can turn things round for United as he can attract class players at OT. He also has a great ability that LVG doesn't have i.e. he studies a game in the first half and changes things round to win the game in the second half.
The only problem is that Mourinho won't wait any longer and I am not a big fan of Mourinho 'the man' , but I feel that Mou 'the manager' can turn things round for United as he can attract class players at OT. He also has a great ability that LVG doesn't have i.e. he studies a game in the first half and changes things round to win the game in the second half.
But we should be expecting to be challenging for the league title every year. I'm not buying his attempt to lower our expectations.
I fully agree with the bolded bit.
I've never been afraid to say I dislike him in the past so I wasnt attempting to dodge around that
I completely agree but I don't think anything that SAF or the club could've done would've changed the outcome. I used to think Jose had a big enough ego to smooth the transition but to be honest, I don't think even he would've helped the club (albeit he'd have done a better job than Moyes/LVG have done).
Van Gaal recently stated that he wanted a 2 year deal but Woodward insisted on 3 years. Personally I think the club will spin that the third year was always "optional" and Van Gaal has decided not to trigger it. Best for all parties I think. It would allow Van Gaal leave a winner.
EXCLUSIVE: LvG to be offered #MUFC director of football role to let Mourinho in as as boss http://spr.ly/6019BUiaD
Custis 
Louis in the box, Jose in the dug out, Ibrahimovic on the pitch. That should go well.
Don't really want that, I sense that LVG will still want to control the team somehow.
If it stops him picking the damn first team then why not.
Doubt its true though. Surely he wants to retire after United. Not carry on working for more years in a different job.
Doubt its true though. Surely he wants to retire after United. Not carry on working for more years in a different job.
and Fergie in the stand watching them all
Portugal is calling Louie's name
That would be just idiotic.
Ask Koeman how that goes. And He doesn't even have an ego as big as Mourinhos.
Woodward can't be that stupid . This article is madeup imo.
He can sit up with Woody for a year if he likes, so long as it's Jose calling the shots on signings, running the training sessions, giving the team talks and picking the team.
The only real job for the director of football will be keeping Woody company during matches.
But it's Custis though so of course it's made up.
The only real job for the director of football will be keeping Woody company during matches.
But it's Custis though so of course it's made up.
VG Director of football, Mourinho manager, with Giggs as assistant.
That'd complete the insanity.
On planet earth again though, surely 1 last game now, and it's a perfect game for a send off.
2 days effectively, of his reign left.
You seem to forget that a few months before he got fired, Jose won Chelsea the title.
If LVG had won us the title, this would've bought him a lot of goodwill from the fans. However, LVG did not win us the title and merely kept us in 4th/5th place.
Some people completely ignore the good performances (winning Chelsea the league) and focus on the bad (his sacking a few months later).
Ibra would be thinking....Deja vu?
In any case, LVG as Director is not happening.
Can you imagine LVG's meddling: "Jose, I shaw the game. I think you muscht defend maw and not shcore scho many goles"
Sold/loaned out XI under Van Gaal (Taken from transfer tavern.)
In random formation
Lindegaard
Rafael Evans Blackett Evra
Cleverley Kagawa
Nani Di Maria Welbeck
Hernandez
Their talking points:
Lindegaard better than Romero.
Rafael was good enough for Fergie and better defensively than Valencia plus Darmian is inconsistent.
Blackett should have stayed to relieve injury crisis.
Evans more solid than Rojo.
Evra winning titles with Juve. Shaw injury unlucky though.
Cleverley has been as good or better for Everton than Schweinsteiger has for us so far.
Kagawa rediscovering his form and could have added some cutting edge and urgency in passing.
Welbecks pace and constant threat on the brake. Provides great support for the striker despite his low goal return.
Di Maria back to his best at PSG (is he?) allthough his last season here was not very good.
Nani pace and creativity.
Hernandez' goal scoring abilities. 29 goals this season. Would've relieved some pressure from Martial and Rooney.
We don't know for sure who wanted to go and who was forced out but it's safe to say most of them could've improved us, at least during some part of the season, allthough that would undoubtedly have provided fewer starts for our young players coming through.
What say the caf?
In random formation
Lindegaard
Rafael Evans Blackett Evra
Cleverley Kagawa
Nani Di Maria Welbeck
Hernandez
Their talking points:
Lindegaard better than Romero.
Rafael was good enough for Fergie and better defensively than Valencia plus Darmian is inconsistent.
Blackett should have stayed to relieve injury crisis.
Evans more solid than Rojo.
Evra winning titles with Juve. Shaw injury unlucky though.
Cleverley has been as good or better for Everton than Schweinsteiger has for us so far.
Kagawa rediscovering his form and could have added some cutting edge and urgency in passing.
Welbecks pace and constant threat on the brake. Provides great support for the striker despite his low goal return.
Di Maria back to his best at PSG (is he?) allthough his last season here was not very good.
Nani pace and creativity.
Hernandez' goal scoring abilities. 29 goals this season. Would've relieved some pressure from Martial and Rooney.
We don't know for sure who wanted to go and who was forced out but it's safe to say most of them could've improved us, at least during some part of the season, allthough that would undoubtedly have provided fewer starts for our young players coming through.
What say the caf?
- Lindegaard is not better than Romero. Romero is not a bad goal keeper who distributes well too.
- Rafael is still always injured, so it doesn't matter if he is better than Valencia/Darmian (which he isn't anyway).
- Blackett is absolute trash who would not have helped at all, nuff said. I'd have preferred he be sold rather than loaned out.
- Evans plays in the most defensive set up in the Premier League, of course he is going to look good whilst being shielded by at least 4 players ahead of him.
- Evra is a legend who would not have wanted to stay on the bench for so long. Shaw getting injured is just unlucky and could never have been predicted. Besides CBJ is a good back up. Not to mention Evra was getting worse and worse. He benefits from playing in the best team in the league.
- Cleverley is so bad Everton fans want him out.
- Welbeck has made 36 caps and 8 goals in two seasons for Arsenal whereas Rashford has had the same in like 10-15? Welbeck is also injured AGAIN for half a year and spends most of his time in the physioroom.
- Kagawa I have no clue about his performances in the Bundesliga but he just didn't seem to fit in here.
- Di Maria has been decent, but seriously he wanted to leave and there was nothing to be done about it.
- Nani I will give you, he'd have added something to this team so it was wrong to get rid.
- Hernandez should not have been sold, I totally agree.
So out of the 11 mentioned, only Nani and Hernandez were mistakes to sell and Di Maria and Evra wanted to leave. The rest just aren't that good and are constantly injured. Only Nani and Hernandez would have improved our team.
True haha
That that is a bullshit team
We have better players on every position except di maria and he left because he didnt want to be here anymore.
Its not the players it is the manager. Bullshit tactics and poor management is poor results
Quite. I don't like his philosophy, it's boring and shit to watch.
I don't want him in control of our playing style or transfers.
Has the team playing the worst football we've ever seen Manchester United play, has made every single player worse, players he sold have shown plenty of worth elsewhere and none of his signings are playing well. I know, let's make him director of football!
It's highly likely that Saturday's game is this idiot's last 
I don't know about making him DOF but our board lacks footballing people. You have Fergie and Charlton who have influence but I'm not sure how much actual power they have over football. Van Gaal as some sort of consultant would not be a bad idea however I would rather have a few ex-players involved much like Bayern. Additionally, Mourinho's first stint at Chelsea went to shit when Grant was forced upon him as DOF, I hope we don't make that mistake again. Let's get a DOF that has a good track record and won't interfere with Mou's job should he become manager.
Agree with the majority of that bar nani and di maria, nani was a sham who even SAF could not get to perform consistently, he was mentally very weak. With di maria, he was the club's most expensive signing ever, LVG still to this day goes on about us needing fast attacking players, we had one of the best and he got fecked around, shackled, moved from position to position, there is a reason he wanted to leave, that is why it does not matter if this cnut signed messi tomorrow, he would curtail his game so much it would not be like we signed him for what he is good at and build around it.
I'm not forgetting that at all
Them being champions is what made their free fall all the more startling. It was even more dramatic than Moyes
You guys realise if we kept Hernandez,Rashford more than likely would not have come through.
Pretty much nailed.
Except I would have got rid of Nani. Nani had his time at the club, didn't make the most of it and had to move on.
Van gaal as a director of football doesn't worry me at all. I think it's clear it's just a way for the club to allow him to leave with dignity once his contract is over next year, he's getting the money anyway so financially it won't be a problem. I highly doubt he'll have a big say in anything.
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