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Do you want LVG sacked?


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Could the reason for OT still clapping/signing autographs etc. be that with United being the club that it is, we have amassed a wide variety of fans and perhaps a higher percentage that aren't irate, angry, blokey lads who might be more inclined to show their disapproval?
I think the average age of the match going fan is 50. I'd like to think most 50 year olds don't suffer from teenage anger.
 
Yeah I was wrong, apparently it's 42. That said I'm not sure if it's a recent survey or a couple of years old. Apparently Derby have the oldest fan base on average (49) and Arsenal the youngest.

Still higher than I'd have thought. I would've said 35 from looking around OT, which I've done more of than usual the last few times I've been.
 
Still higher than I'd have thought. I would've said 35 from looking around OT, which I've done more of than usual the last few times I've been.


Suppose there's a difference between average and mean. Basically, next time you go...do another survey. Anyway according to that survey Arsenal's was 39 - the youngest.
 
Keeping LVG around for another season doesn't make any sense. It serves no purpose at all spending 100s of millions when the the present incumbent is going to leave next season. In this respect getting Mourinho doesn't make much sense either. He only stays at clubs for a few years.

LVG has spent a shed load of money without achieving much. Leaving aside trophies his style of play is inconsistent and in games against Spurs and West Ham, we just couldn't handle high intensity play. Most of season we've played like senior citizens.

We need a capable manager who is going to stay as long as he can achieve top four position, play with flair and win the odd trophy. My choice would be Ryan Giggs or
Ronald Koeman. I don't know much about European managers.
 
Keeping LVG around for another season doesn't make any sense. It serves no purpose at all spending 100s of millions when the the present incumbent is going to leave next season. In this respect getting Mourinho doesn't make much sense either. He only stays at clubs for a few years.

LVG has spent a shed load of money without achieving much. Leaving aside trophies his style of play is inconsistent and in games against Spurs and West Ham, we just couldn't handle high intensity play. Most of season we've played like senior citizens.

We need a capable manager who is going to stay as long as he can achieve top four position, play with flair and win the odd trophy. My choice would be Ryan Giggs or
Ronald Koeman. I don't know much about European managers.
This has been discussed to death and perhaps this isnt the thread to go into it again but I see no reason why Mourinho cant or wont stay with us for many years. I think he would have at Chelsea as it happens, if results hadnt forced him out. As long as he is reasonably successful and has us competing for honours every year I think he will want to stay with us indefinitely, and I cant imagine we will be in a hurry to push him out - again, as long as he is delivering the goods.

I guess it all depends on whether you think his style makes it inevitable that things will start going wrong around year 3. I dont buy that. I think he has often moved on because he wanted to experience new leagues and take on new challenges. But I think he has done that now and will be happy to settle at a big club that matches his ambitions. Which we are.
 
Only job left to Mourinho after us would be an international one. I can't see him wanting to go into international team management until he's in his mid sixties.
 
like it or not, LVG has got us to the FA cup final and deserves to be the manager, for 1 final game. Let's hope he wins it and he can go out on a high.

If he loses he's going to dig his heels in and try desperately to remain 1 last year.
 
Best defence in the league. Better attacking at the end of the season. Introduction of great young players. Young squad relatively.
The best defence is at complete sacrifice to attack and of course, preventing our opponents from having the ball. When our opponents do have the ball or we play more attacking/open, our defence is pretty shit. Too much needs to be sacrificed for our defence to perform. Oh and we have the worlds best goalkeeper
 
This has been discussed to death and perhaps this isnt the thread to go into it again but I see no reason why Mourinho cant or wont stay with us for many years. I think he would have at Chelsea as it happens, if results hadnt forced him out. As long as he is reasonably successful and has us competing for honours every year I think he will want to stay with us indefinitely, and I cant imagine we will be in a hurry to push him out - again, as long as he is delivering the goods.

I guess it all depends on whether you think his style makes it inevitable that things will start going wrong around year 3. I dont buy that. I think he has often moved on because he wanted to experience new leagues and take on new challenges. But I think he has done that now and will be happy to settle at a big club that matches his ambitions. Which we are.

What's more, if we actually aspire to get back amongst the Bayern/Real/Barca elite, surely having a "long-term" manager is not necessarily the way to go? What these clubs have proven is that you can be highly successful with long-term visions which are intergated into club philosophy, without necessarily having the manager there to oversee all of it. All the more reason we should get a DoF for that role (perhaps a role more suitable for Giggs than the managers job?).
 
Keeping LVG around for another season doesn't make any sense. It serves no purpose at all spending 100s of millions when the the present incumbent is going to leave next season. In this respect getting Mourinho doesn't make much sense either. He only stays at clubs for a few years.

LVG has spent a shed load of money without achieving much. Leaving aside trophies his style of play is inconsistent and in games against Spurs and West Ham, we just couldn't handle high intensity play. Most of season we've played like senior citizens.

We need a capable manager who is going to stay as long as he can achieve top four position, play with flair and win the odd trophy. My choice would be Ryan Giggs or
Ronald Koeman. I don't know much about European managers.
How can you possibly label a man who has managed four games ever as capable? I hate this romantic notion that Giggs will follow in SAF's footsteps and lead us to a decade of glory, it's too risky in the position we're in and completely unrealistic.
 
like it or not, LVG has got us to the FA cup final and deserves to be the manager, for 1 final game. Let's hope he wins it and he can go out on a high.

If he loses he's going to dig his heels in and try desperately to remain 1 last year.

I would argue that the players got LVG to the final.

He deserves nothing.
 
Saw some of his quotes on SSN earlier saying that an FA cup win is better than a top 4 finish. Essentially he would rather win a cup that takes half a dozen games to win, than compete with the top teams in the premier league and get champions league qualification.

This kind of stupidity he comes out with infuriates me, coupled with the quotes about fans expectations being too high, and the tumescent football we have mostly played are the reasons I want him gone.
 
Saw some of his quotes on SSN earlier saying that an FA cup win is better than a top 4 finish. Essentially he would rather win a cup that takes half a dozen games to win, than compete with the top teams in the premier league and get champions league qualification.

This kind of stupidity he comes out with infuriates me, coupled with the quotes about fans expectations being too high, and the tumescent football we have mostly played are the reasons I want him gone.

just excuses to justify his very poor performance as a coach.

oh yeah. the bolded bit. This is Manchester United. The title as an expectation is normal. That really infuriated me.
 
Saw some of his quotes on SSN earlier saying that an FA cup win is better than a top 4 finish. Essentially he would rather win a cup that takes half a dozen games to win, than compete with the top teams in the premier league and get champions league qualification.

This kind of stupidity he comes out with infuriates me, coupled with the quotes about fans expectations being too high, and the tumescent football we have mostly played are the reasons I want him gone.
Funnily enough, I agreed with him.
 
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