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Like...like a thing that uses similes too often, Barney gonna Barney:

...lost in their own ponderous moments, like a collection of dying flies trying to batter their way out of a fluorescent tube. It is simply that United continue to play with so little verve and joy. There is no sense here of a team emerging, of a shape and a purpose being found, simply of a collection of parts poking out in various places, occasionally offering the odd misleading sparkle of hope, before collapsing back into a froth of confusion.
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Barney Ronay: Louis van Gaal’s time at Manchester United is surely up after new low ~
http://www.theguardian.com/football...d-disjointed-display-defeat-tottenham-hotspur
 
Nuts said:
Can't see Pochettino leaving Spurs this summer - too soon - and I get the feeling that United have resolved to be loyal to Louis.

They may be right. He seems to be stabilising us, and is good for our future long term. Mourinho might quickly win a PL, but Van Gaal is, I'd argue, clearly better at leaving a sustainable legacy in terms of a functioning team with good prospects.
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I have to agree. Would he honestly leave after taking Spurs to a champions league spot for a club who is not in the Champions league? I hope I'm wrong though.
 
Scorpy said:
He's a disease.
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As dramatic as that sounds it's still true.

I despise him being in charge. I'd actually rather no manager at all right now and let the players do as they please, it surely wouldn't be any worse.
 
He reminds me a bit of Wenger in that I think he'd rather lose playing his way than win compromising his principles. Not sure if it's stubbornness or arrogance or both. Probably both.

Part of me wonders if its his own rebellion against the tactical evolution of the game since his peak years. Rather than embracing the changes as all managers must (see: Ferguson) he instead seems to want to insist that nothing has changed and he uses the club to set out to prove that his old techniques can still work. The 'philosophy' seems to be an exercise aimed at demonstrating how everyone else in the last 20 years were wrong.
 
He had just apologised to Spurs for not becoming their manager. He should apologise to us instead
 
Robbie Boy said:
A manager on the brink - especially at a big club - always makes the back pages. That's the point. All has gone very quiet over the last few months which makes me assume that no one actually has a clue. Not me, not you, not anyone on here or in the media.
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Repeating the same news isn't going to sell many papers though. It's probably why we've seen a few articles popping up claiming that no one knows what's going on and that we want LVG to stay on next season. Bad news sells more.
 
He needs 17 goals and 4 points from the next two league fixtures just to equal Moyes figures when he was sacked!

He is beyond a joke now at least Moyes was never ready for a job this size, Louis and his big bollocks believes himself to be some kind of football god, what a complete failure and farce he has been though.

In football terms it will be one of the happiest days of my life when his ego and philosophy have fecked right off.
 
I've never been so disillusioned in my 40 years of watching the team. Even relegation season was not quite as bad as these last 2 seasons.
 
Sultan said:
I've never been so disillusioned in my 40 years of watching the team. Even relegation season was not quite as bad as these last 2 seasons.
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Snap although only about 30 years watching for me, well a bit longer as a youngster but then all it took was a pack of Opal fruits and a game on my Commodore 64 to make me immediately forget a bad result/season.

Now they just stay etched in my memory like some form of LvG PTSD :(
 
Sultan said:
I've never been so disillusioned in my 40 years of watching the team. Even relegation season was not quite as bad as these last 2 seasons.
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I think you're just further along the curve than many of us. You woke up to the truth about LVG much earlier than many of us. I was still deluding myself until last autumn. Since reality hit I have been moving in the same direction. I've slowly gone from angry to resigned to failure. My expectations are so low that seeing us get beat no longer hurts like it used to. Why should it? We're not chasing titles. A win here, a loss there, its all meaningless since we are nowhere near the trophies. What little fury I have left is directed at the board for not getting rid of LVG. As long as he is our manager I see little point in getting angry about results though, we won't win anything under him so why bother?
 
I keep checking my phone today expecting to see him sacked. I don't now why, I think it's the last remnants of hope.
 
Smores said:
I keep checking my phone today expecting to see him sacked. I don't now why, I think it's the last remnants of hope.
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There is no chance of him being sacked. He should have gone in December, and the board have got themselves to blame for the position we are in, as if Mourinho had come in then, I'm confident we would be firmly in the CL spots.
 
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No x 13

Or 14 even
 
Winter was the time to get rid of him, especially when things looked bleak for him in late December / early January. But somehow, the man weathered the storm and stayed on. The trigger should have been pulled back then and even LvG looked resigned to his fate at the time.
 
Anyone who plays Lingard centrally and Mata on the wing is a grade #1 moron. And its not the first time he's done it.
Ashley Young as centre forward anyone? fml. We have a farcking £50m centre forward already on the pitch you twat, but oh no he's obviously better on the wing whilst we play hunchback at #9.
I can't take any more of this............
 
A CM at CB
A CM/CB at RB
A No.10 at RW
A RW at No.10
A Striker at LW
A LW at Striker (after 45 mins)

Ladies & Gentleman, i present to you Louis Van Gaal.

PS. Add Morgan Schneiderlin (one of our tallest players) taking set pieces.
 
Now I'm just dreading him deciding which players stay, spending more money & continuing next season. What we NOW actually need is someone to steady the ship. That wasn't what we needed when SAF left. Then it was a ship at the front of the race, no steadying required (but long overdue trimming etc...).

Now, job #1 is to arrest the decline. Get some consistency back & get a base level of confidence in the squad. This is steadying the ship. It's sinking. We've lost experienced players and there are remarkably few links to Fergusons era left. That DNA that was in the club that knew how to win. We're becoming a mid-table team with really good wages, that offsets the massive pressure.

We know things are hard now, Vidic said that the most pressure he's been under was with Moyes, the pressure on us is huge. Still seems crazy the Chelsea title defence is less news than United's decline. Even though there's a possibility we'll finish higher than last season.

On a one-game-at-a-time approach, I'm struggling to motivate myself to get over to Old Trafford for the Villa game. I hope we beat West Ham, but I just feel that they're a team in form & will be difficult to beat at home. Payet seems to be able to do no wrong. He dived & should have got a second yellow and then went on to dive to win a free-kick that he scored. But as the pundit said when saying "yes he dived" he went on to say "but I'm not saying he's a diver". Er, yes you are. Payet would be up there for player of the season for me, if it wasn't to that side of his game.
 
So much talk about him staying especially after him turning down that job in Holland. Surely it's not true? Surely?
 
Louis appeared to be virtually everything I wanted in a United manager after the Moyes era: a big personality borne of the Dutch football I've loved most of my life, an uncompromising boss who would be ruthless as I believed we truly required, a history of success and a reputation for favouring youth and smart, attacking play; it's taken a helluva lot to turn me against him but almost all of the previously-mentioned promise has proven to be a kind of illusion. What we're left with is someone so set in his ways that he even throws our younger players under the bus when they fail to be as clinical as experienced professionals - everything from that look exchanged with Giggs when Chicha missed a sitter to yesterday's blaming of Martial really rankles with me. Yet the younger players aren't the problem at United, as the club and its major figures seem to be living off past glories, past reputations, and an ageing van Gaal is only one of these people.
 
SteveJ said:
Louis appeared to be virtually everything I wanted in a United manager after the Moyes era: a big personality borne of the Dutch football I've loved most of my life, an uncompromising boss who would be ruthless as I believed we truly required, a history of success and a reputation for favouring youth and smart, attacking play; it's taken a helluva lot to turn me against him but almost all of the previously-mentioned promise has proven to be a kind of illusion. What we're left with is someone so set in his ways that he even throws our younger players under the bus when they fail to be as clinical as experienced professionals - everything from that look exchanged with Giggs when Chicha missed a sitter to yesterday's blaming of Martial really rankles with me. Yet the younger players aren't the problem at United, as the club and its major figures seem to be living off past glories, past reputations, and an ageing van Gaal is only one of these people.
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Yeah, felt a bit like hiring top-class Oxford graduate to do your accounting and then he sits down, opens up your books and you see him starting to count using his fingers.
 
It looks like the FA Cup is now keeping him in a job, otherwise he's have been sacked after yesterday, unless its a "top 4 mathematical impossibility" clause thing, like it was with Moyes
 
I'm honestly going out for celebratory drinks when this guy finally gets the boot.
 
Can't stand him anymore, looking at face listening to him talk winds me up. Can't wait until he fecks off.

Just amazes me how spineless the club has become.
 
SteveJ said:
Louis appeared to be virtually everything I wanted in a United manager after the Moyes era: a big personality borne of the Dutch football I've loved most of my life, an uncompromising boss who would be ruthless as I believed we truly required, a history of success and a reputation for favouring youth and smart, attacking play; it's taken a helluva lot to turn me against him but almost all of the previously-mentioned promise has proven to be a kind of illusion. What we're left with is someone so set in his ways that he even throws our younger players under the bus when they fail to be as clinical as experienced professionals - everything from that look exchanged with Giggs when Chicha missed a sitter to yesterday's blaming of Martial really rankles with me. Yet the younger players aren't the problem at United, as the club and its major figures seem to be living off past glories, past reputations, and an ageing van Gaal is only one of these people.
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Spot on. I really was delighted when we got him. Although I reckon we could've hired a rubber duck with a pen and pad after Moyes and I'd have seen that as an improvement, so maybe my expectations weren't particularly high.

What's happened since is soul destroying, though, and when I first joined here I did recall a few posters, such as Balu and Brwned, stating that things might not be so rosy under him as we all suspected, given they actually knew about his shambolic Bayern and Barca spells. I knew about them too, mind, but I didn't know they were direct representations of how awful things would be here.

I guess the key difference is I expected Moyes to let me down, but I didn't think LvG would. Like your shit son caught doing drugs vs your good son getting in trouble at school for having a drag of a smoke.
 
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