You'll all be saying your sorries to KinderBueno after Van Gaal steers us to a magnificent no goal draw against Liverpool this week.
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You'll all be saying your sorries to KinderBueno after Van Gaal steers us to a magnificent no goal draw against Liverpool this week.
Bye people. Enjoy the LVG out thread . Really need to stop posting here. When rashford,martial,Memphis,varela , lingard. Fosu Mensa etc etc start beating teams remember to remember who started it all xxx
Hamilton is a great driver but his driving instructor was pretty important too
Van Gaal, he finished outside the top four with Manchester United playing dour football after spending hundreds of millions, but hey, he did give several kids debuts. BEST MANAGER EVER.
Van Gaal's youth policy is reminiscent of those celebrities who make sure that everyone knows how regularly they give to charity; in short, one wonders whether he genuinely favours youth...or whether just loves to have the reputation of favouring youth (especially when his gambles pay off).
even if what you say is true, that means Fergie made 1 mistake and Pogba wasn't patient enough. We cant get them all right.
But you cannot say that Fergie only relied on 3 players over 20 years.
Off the top of my head;
Beardsmore, Wilson, Gill, Robins, Lee Martin, Gary Walsh, Graham, O'Kane, Thornley, Sharpe, Giggs, G Neville, P Neville, Butt, Beckham, Scholes, Gillespie, Simon Davies, Savage, W Brown, O'Shea, Fletcher.
I'm sure that there are tons more that I've forgotten
As I say, Pogba needed to be a bit more patient, he would have played here
It'd be a four cornered roundabout.
Van Gaal is known for favouring youth because he managed teams that included young players such as Xavi, Iniesta, Thomas Muller, and David Alaba. That is all.
As been said before, where is the difficulty in giving them debuts and where is the genius in it? He is not developing them or introducing them into the team. He just chucks all our best reserves players into the first team at random intervals and then usually ditches them for a new toy. I don't see what is so genius about that, especially as it brings no results. He is also hating on possibly the biggest talent of our academy for no apparent reason other than to prove himself as a genius who'd rather play someone worse.
They don't get extended runs, they don't improve. It's like you saying Iniesta's success was entirely down to van Gaal when he gave him 3 games or something.
A lot of people applaud LVG for his youth policy but would the likes of Varela, Rashford, Blackett, Bojack etc been given chances had it not been for our injury crisis? I mean, let's take Rashford as an example as it is the most recent. Would he have got a look in had Rooney still been fit? I doubt it. This surge of youngsters coming through seems more like the will of good timing rather than a choice...
Spare me the crap. It isn't just as simple as that. It's not as if there was a clear direction he wanted with youth like using them as support for the main team; ie. rotating them in and out as subs. He's forced to rely entirely on them because he's clearly misjudged the squad size required to compete (and i mean compete) in multiple competitions and the injuries he so likes to whinge about. Proper introduction of youth goes like this; using them as second tier support for a backbone of senior first liners. Not placing the burden of every aspect of the team on them completely. Also, do you think some of them would be playing if Di Maria had worked out? Or if Rooney was fit?
Rashford could score a hat-trick in the match previous to Rooney returning...and Marcus would still get dropped next game.
With inexplicable changes of cars from Porshe to a Skoda after 79 minutes of drive.
No he would change the "formation" and "structure" of the car by converting it into a tricycle. Followed by using its parts out of their natural positions. Steering wheels as wheels themselves and the gear stick as the controls.
Rummenigge - yes.
But you see, this is the beauty of the situation: Darwin (Patton) doesn't need more than a couple of seasons to implant his DNA, as you suggest - so we can safely sack him now. His job is in all likelihood done, and we'll all reap the glorious harvest soon enough.
So, by kicking Van Galileo (Lord Nelson) out now, we're actually keeping both the ignorant masses and the enlightened few happy. The former will be glad to see the back of him, and the latter will be able to gloat to their heart's content no matter what happens next. As I keep saying, they're bullet proof and have been so from day one, there is absolutely no conceivable way in which they can - ever - be proven wrong.
General Louis van Haig.
His use, or lack thereof, of Pereira would suggest not. It's not about natural ability or Fergie's "if you're good enough, you're old enough" mantra. There is no plan for specific youngsters like there was with SAF. It's just all out of necessity with him and then his fanboys want to give him credit for some masterplan of a small squad when it's just royally screwed us this season. A manager with a real vision for the future of the squad would have been able to take an approriately sized squad into the season, while still having a plan for giving the best young talents games if and when they deserve them.
I agree. The squad is simply to small. We needed about three more quality players. The youth could have been introduced with any sized squad.
If mata was injured I can bet you my balls that Pereira would get a game. He tried to play him out wide but that didn't work. He isn't a very capable player at playing in multiple positions .
In that position we have Rooney,Mata,Januzaj, Pereira even without the likes of Herrera being able to play there.
Injuries are important. Playing kids for the sake of playing kids is a different type of risk than using them when you need them. We had Damian on the bench yesterday. Who started?
They say that only cockroaches could survive the aftermath of a nuclear war.
But it wouldn't surprise me at all If this cnut would be seen wandering around with slightly singed hair and still clutching that fecking clipboard after a nuclear fall out.
We should start calling this bastard Captain Scarlet. Every time you think the cnuts dead and buried he comes back to life again.
He could probably drop his pants and start shaving his balls on the touch line while stroking the salami to a picture of the Glaser family and he STILL wouldn't get sacked!!
But it wouldn't surprise me at all If this cnut would be seen wandering around with slightly singed hair and still clutching that fecking clipboard after a nuclear fall out.
We should start calling this bastard Captain Scarlet. Every time you think the cnuts dead and buried he comes back to life again.
He could probably drop his pants and start shaving his balls on the touch line while stroking the salami to a picture of the Glaser family and he STILL wouldn't get sacked!!
Why didn't he play Pereira yesterday then? Mata was suspended.
Exactly and he's even admitted he likes young player because they do as they are told, he doesn't like free will and expression in players.
Lewis Hamilton being taught to drive by LvG:
You may turn left
You may turn right
You may reverse
But if you go forwards you must never change out of first gear!
You may turn left
You may turn right
You may reverse
But if you go forwards you must never change out of first gear!
Because Herrera was available?
Gif please
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So you'd bet your balls Pereira would play if Mata was injured but acknowledge that Herrera would in fact play there instead?
Thing is, with youth, what he's been doing is not sustainable in the long term and no one will benefit from his planning - not the player, not the club, not anyone at all. He gives debuts to youngsters but he does not give them extended runs in the first team, even if they do very well they find themselves out of the side after a short amount of time and might never be back. He does not forgive mistakes either, McNair was in favour last year but after a few bad games he got chucked away and he's not coming back into the squad. I can bet my house that Borthwick-Jackson will not come back now that Rojo is fit despite the fact that he's been much better than him. Rashford will be gone to the bench the very minute the amazing Captain Wayne is back.
You could only say that he's done amazing job with youth if we got results or if he truly developed any of these players to the level where you could reasonably say that they're either first team players or on the verge of becoming ones. It hasn't happened, half of the players he's given debuts to are likely to be playing for much weaker teams in the near future so I don't see what's so amazing about that. It seems that the only purpose of that is 5 years down the line, if any of them make it, he will be able to again say that he's amazing genius because he gave them debut (like people have done with Iniesta who played about 3 games under van Gaal yet apparently owes his entire progress to him).
You could only say that he's done amazing job with youth if we got results or if he truly developed any of these players to the level where you could reasonably say that they're either first team players or on the verge of becoming ones. It hasn't happened, half of the players he's given debuts to are likely to be playing for much weaker teams in the near future so I don't see what's so amazing about that. It seems that the only purpose of that is 5 years down the line, if any of them make it, he will be able to again say that he's amazing genius because he gave them debut (like people have done with Iniesta who played about 3 games under van Gaal yet apparently owes his entire progress to him).
No, he wouldn't have. He would have still left because he would have likely played as much as he had under Ferguson. Besides him having little game time was not entire reason why he left at the time, it was much more complicated. And most importantly - he was the best player in academy, no way in hell genius van Gaal would have played him as it would have made too much sense. He's not playing Pereira at all because it'd make sense to play him, he's playing other players because it makes him look unusual and proves that he's incredible genius who is not afraid to take a bold decision.
You baited him in then bitch slapped him
I actually had a dream last night that he'd been sacked. Thats what its come to.
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And Van Gaal doesn't seem to find Herrera to be a favorable choice, so if going by that presumption, then it's an even stranger decision.
Also eagerly awaiting Santiago's balls now.
You baited him in then bitch slapped him
Did he try to play him in other positions? Yes, as a right winger. Didn't work.
Is he a CM, as much as Mata is a CM.
5 players are above him in the pecking order due to Pereira's inability to play in other positions.
Having also made mata our recent captain , replacing him with Pereira is stupid in the current games especially the games against liverpool, City & west ham which are must wins.
We need to have CM's injured and CAM's injured for Pereira to get a game where he can be influential. Otherwise someone like Herrera will have to suffice for our upcoming important games .
Also to the guys craving my sweet and sour balls, I said injury which mata has hardly had game off for.
Load of bollocks really, can't buy or sell anyone, transfer windows closed so we can't do anything about the squad. LVG is gone, just waiting for him to fail properly, miss top 4 and out the europa
You want some too hun? GF hasn't been active recently so I'm up for it...
want some what?
There's enough balls in this thread already.
Enough to go round it appears.
Big ones*
The only academy player who is a regular regardless of injuries is Lingard, and he's average. Rashford and TFM are years away from becoming what ever they are going to be; Varela will almost certainly never become first-choice here and the likes of McNair and Blackett would be sold by absolutely anyone who comes in here after Van Gaal.
The idea that this group is going to form the basis of the next managers squad is just sentimental fantasy.
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