Are you suggesting Van Gaal might be the missing link?
Majority of people thought Darwin's evolution theory was rubbish.. I think some people can only see things that are right in front of them. You miss me MR. Blunder?
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The link between humans and frying pans?
This made me chuckle inexplicably.
Worked well for him this year.
I am not going to write the man off after one bad season. Wenger should have been binned years ago.
No that for all his negatives there is positives to be taken on how he does things.
For most of us his in game man management is poor, which effects our chances alot but this is more so that the players are able to manage them selves.
You do see Barcelona's & Bayern's ability to rotate and man manage themselves on the pitch & usually their homegrown players are the most influential players in the same manner as someone like Roy Keane used to manage us.
He is most representative of an army general where the army consistently makes mistakes but when the war starts everybody kicks arse because the unneeded pressure is lifted.
I'm fairly sure that it's a very bad analogy.
Van Gaal seems to have this magical ability in which his glaring weaknesses are actually positives. As for that general part 
My favourite tactic in Sun Tzu's Art of War.
Yeah, the problem is just that the war started a fair while ago. Which makes LVG, I suppose, a general who hasn't realized the war is on. A rather clueless general, in other words.
Well that's your assumption. Until LVG is sacked , some of us will believe he was bought in to do this and has been given leeway that other managers would not have gotten purely because of his ability to dictate a team.
One thing I do believe though is that for LVG's benefits to show - it would always be better to have a plan A and Plan B. This requires a new manager, and usually LVG's stuff is stuck in the players DNA as plan B ( not hard when you train in one way for 2 years).
Rumminege says a lot of bad stuff about LVG's ego but even he still recognises LVG's impact whenever you see Bayern's possession fluctuate at the 60% mark.
Would you learn to ride a bike with your daddy holding on to your handles all the time? No. Sometimes a bit of self management is needed especially if you are a kid like the ones we have been playing.
He is most representative of a clown during a circus.
When your child repeatedly falls off and keeps breaking his or hers legs then I'd want to get involved and perhaps offer guidance or new instructions so that doesn't happen again or get any worse. That's just me though.
Your presence here is starting to make me think it is.
Majority of people thought Darwin's evolution theory was rubbish.. I think some people can only see things that are right in front of them. You miss me MR. Blunder?
Can someone please give Santiago his real name back? The bonkers one. I think he really deserves it after the Darwin and war analogies.
Which he does at half time and behind the scenes. Are you telling me he doesn't do that?
I mean, I would like him to change things during the game but there are significant benefits of players - especially young ones to be able to do it themselves. That's why we play in one dour way, that's why people feel the players are sucked out of freedom. That is all true to be fair.
If we are going to win big things though we need;
A) a Manager who can do just that (not LVG)
B) a team that works as a team and not as individuals ( something LVG does amazingly , even if the results are still not good- ie down to a lack of success in our current manager is holding us back from instant successes)
C) young, loyal players that will grow in to a style. A team that play a style have to deal with the ability to when to revert to basic game plans and excessive game planes. The fact that our players are doing this by themselves will be a positive in the future.
I will do it if you change your name to simplistic or something?
Majority of people thought Darwin's evolution theory was rubbish.. I think some people can only see things that are right in front of them. You miss me MR. Blunder?
Oh we were able to survive without you, i'm thinking you look a bit stressed, maybe you could do with a longer holiday
Unfortunately it's usually one or few of the species that help change to progress of evolution. The majority are normally a step behind until the whole of society catch up..
If he does, he is failing miserably.
Bye people. Enjoy the LVG out thread . Really need to stop posting here. When rashford,martial,Memphis,varela , lingard. Fosu Mensa etc etc start beating teams remember to remember who started it all xxx
Hamilton is a great driver but his driving instructor was pretty important too
Hamilton is a great driver but his driving instructor was pretty important too
Oh I definitely agree. His 40% positives cannot be matched by many managers whilst his 60% negatives can easily be bettered by other managers. Even if the guy goes at the end of the season, I'm happy he has made this team from hernandez's, Kagawa's, nani's, Ferdinand's etc etc in to a team full of youngsters with their successes in front of them.
General VanGaal is sitting on his chair overlooking the valley below where the war is playing out. His troops are getting slaughtered but he refuses to acknowledge the fact.
Wait..theres a gap on the enemies flank! push up there and you might get a chance to get behind their defences.. oh wait.. our troops are falling back again to defend the flag.
oh no, we've been overrun.. another battle lost.
but hey, at least General VanGaal is teaching his new recruits the ways in which battles are lost, so that they might win more battles when a new General takes over
over to you General.. "my tactics are working. Maybe you do not see but this is you. We are still in 3 wars. what other general can say that?"
sigh
He's actually more like the army general who tells his army to put down their guns and not shoot at the other army under any circumstance, and instead use swords to fight, despite the fact that the enemy are using guns and shooting from distance ... and eventually when the other army has picked everyone off one by one using their advanced weaponary, he tells his troops that what they did, hear, in this moment... where they laid down their arms, didn't bother putting up a fight and died in a pathetic manner... will really benefit them all in a few months time.
yes, Warren Joyce
Yes well you then get a manager who plays with guns only you have a team playing with guns and swords..
Bloody hell.Bye people. Enjoy the LVG out thread . Really need to stop posting here. When rashford,martial,Memphis,varela , lingard. Fosu Mensa etc etc start beating teams remember to remember who started it all xxx
Hamilton is a great driver but his driving instructor was pretty important too
Oh yes. He gave them the debuts. Is he to blame for pogba getting tired of waiting for scholes to retire. If he was still here LVG would have had an 80 MIL midfielder in the sub's atleast.
Ahh you know giving debuts mean shit all. All the managers do it. No wonder why everybody is craving Jose so quickly - how many debuts you think he will give?
As Sean Connery once said: "Isnt that just like Van Gaal. Brings a knife to a gun fight."
he left because his agent turned his ear. For the record, Fergie did give him his debut
I don't care much for Mourinho but I'd take anyone at this point to get rid of VanFail
Bye people. Enjoy the LVG out thread . Really need to stop posting here. When rashford,martial,Memphis,varela , lingard. Fosu Mensa etc etc start beating teams remember to remember who started it all xxx
Hamilton is a great driver but his driving instructor was pretty important too
If LVG was Hamilton's instructor then he wouldn't be able to leave the roundabout.
SAF is the best manager ever but even he used 3 players who nearly played for him for 20 years. How you can say LVG's progression of youth and enabling maybe another manager to have a bunch of kids playing underneath them..how is that not a positive.
As I said, Pogba would have been here if similar arrangements were made early.
No one knows, what we know is that he gave debuts at Madrid and Inter.
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