He will. And we'll finish below 7th next season under his charge
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M8, pick on LVG all you want but don't start on me!
We've made two disastrous appointments since SAF retired. We absolutely need to get the next one right otherwise I think we could be in the wilderness for a decade.
This does not compute. Seriously do not believe for one instant that he will start next season. They probably won't sack him until the end of the season but am totally convinced that the decision has already been taken.
If Mourinho is lined up for July there's not really any point sacking Van Gaal until then. Because Giggs won't want the interim job.
If Mourinho is not lined up for July we're fecked.
If Mourinho is not lined up for July we're fecked.
Give it to Warren Joyce for interim. Or Nicky Butt. Or anyone - at least the players will have a short term lift which might be enough to get us into the top four, win the FA Cup or the Europa.
I'd take Fred the Red at this point. Unless Van Gaal's been the man behind the costume all this time.
If Van Gaal is 5 inches, then SAF was a massive two foot schlong.
We've been ruined and 5 inches doesn't do anything for us.
If he was going, he'd have already gone. Nothing can get worse than it currently is. The only logic is that the 3 year Giggs succession plan is bulletproof
Genuine lol
Mourinho will start as soon as he can - don't like the man but it can't be worse than this. Giggs will probably take over from Mourinho. The board cannot risk anything else.
Well if I remember this exchange come late May or June (my memory sucks so its not likely) I will come back to you and either commend you for being spot on, or begrudgingly remind you that I was right, life sucks, van Gaal stays forever and puppies die every day
We are in 3 competitions
Good come back today. West Ham are a tough opponent these days.
I remember the agreement being that he had 3 years without any conditions. technically he could be here no matter we did not get 4th spot.
But I believe his offer to resign immediately has prompted them to contact Jose.
If he stayed for another year he'd try his best not to be in the Premier League.
He's totally clueless with substitutions. We have a free kick, so we wait to take Fellaini off in the hope his height could cause a problem. That free kick then leads to a corner... then we choose to take Fellaini off rather than wait for the corner to be taken?!
Rashford goes off and that waste of space Lingard stays on. Ridiculous.
Rashford goes off and that waste of space Lingard stays on. Ridiculous.
Definitely feels like uncertainty around the manager situation is becoming part of the problem.
Or maybe the players even know something and it's affecting their motivation. Remember when SAF announced his retirement the first time and our form went to shit until he went back on it?
To be fair we've been bad since before he was under pressure - being bad is what is putting him under pressure. So it's not the original problem. But it seems to be getting worse in the last couple of months and I increasingly feel it's because the players don't believe Van Gaal will be staying. It feels like if we don't resolve this matter of the manager soon we might collapse entirely.
Or maybe the players even know something and it's affecting their motivation. Remember when SAF announced his retirement the first time and our form went to shit until he went back on it?
To be fair we've been bad since before he was under pressure - being bad is what is putting him under pressure. So it's not the original problem. But it seems to be getting worse in the last couple of months and I increasingly feel it's because the players don't believe Van Gaal will be staying. It feels like if we don't resolve this matter of the manager soon we might collapse entirely.
our problem is lack of quality all over the place. West Ham are a decent side. Not great by any standard.
The manager and the board must take full responsibility.
In my lifetime I have seen this before. But we now have so much money and this really is unforgivable.
We will struggle until the end of the season.
The manager and the board must take full responsibility.
In my lifetime I have seen this before. But we now have so much money and this really is unforgivable.
We will struggle until the end of the season.
Well that's not going to happen. Our last 3 games: LLD.
You think we can beat WHU at their ground?
We scraped through with a draw today. In London, they'll be out right favourites and we won't be able to scrape through with 0-0 or 1-1 (which is what our aim seems to be in every game).
No Champions League football is always a big loss. For revenue, for the fans and when acquiring top players (who want to play in the CL).
It's enough to feck us up!
Mourinho uses notes too...worked pretty well for himSAF - "Leading" £7.99 Amazon
Likewise there's more to a team than buying a team.
Would a manager like mourinho give debuts to any Tom dick or Harry? how you can say that giving debuts to youngsters is a small deal? Your managing the biggest club in the world but LVG finds himself playing youngsters 2/3rd of the time.
We could just about cover a whole first team full of youngsters. That may not be the best thing to do for someone who looks out for quick success but our younger players can only get better whilst older players like Carrick & Rooney can only get worse.
Personally, I'd love for him to finish his job off - that doesn't mean I want him for a full season but if we target young RW's, CM's and one CB; I believe his job will be done and also managers like Mourinho will have no option but to utilise youngsters when there is nearly 25+ players under the age of 25.
Whatever benefits Mourinho is able to teach the youngsters such as the art of success is what our youngsters need next. It's often forgotten that SAF spent most of his success consistently playing 3 or 4 players that arose from our youth teams for nearly 20 years.. The same players trained to play in one way.
It looks like something similar may arise, where the team consistently are able to play the same style of football due to players having played in the same system for years. It doesn't matter who has managed Barca or Bayern in the last 5-7 years; the style of football is based on the players more than the manager.
Likewise, it doesn't matter if we buy Ronaldo or Bale or whichever type of player Mourinho is likely to target; our style of game is based on the fact that the majority of our players have worked together and have the same footballing language.
Iv no doubt that Mourinho will be a success here, but the level of consistency in which that adheres to is down to the level of understanding that is spread across a 32 player squad.
I consistently hear how the life is dragged out of players once LVG has given debuts etc; I agree, but that's because everybody is forced to play in one almost strict type of football.
More than the style being important, it's the methodology that is wonderful.
Just imagine, a manager who knows the grains of success or even pure unadulterated attacking football given a squad that has been trained like an army? That is exciting to me.
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Where in my quote, or in any of my posts on this forum, have I given you the impression that I'm a transfer muppet? My point was, giving debuts to academy players are well and good, but there's more to managing a club like Man Utd than just introducing players to the first team, hoping to gain credit 4-5 years later when these kids are grown up and are playing well because they're actually benefiting from playing in a team and system (introduced by an entirely new manager and backroom staff) that actually allows them to reach their potentials.
If he's still in charge come August, I honestly don't know if I'll be able to suffer another season of this.He's leaving in the summer
If he is, which for me is impossible, then I think I'll take a year's break
Oh I see van gaals redcafe mouthpiece is back and straight into spouting rubbish again
I'll have to stop watching the matches (with exception of the big games). I don't know how people cope with the shitty performances. It ruins my weekend and effects me for the entire week afterwards, it's an abusive relationship at the moment.
I really cannot understand why he wasn't sacked after that December run of results. I mean if Chelsea can have interim managers all the time, then surely we can manage it too for 6 months. No way would we have been worse off with anyone else in charge.
What happens, come 1 July, and he's still around with his stupid philosophy? I really don't want to imagine another season of this crap.
Becoming a joke this. The replay means another 90 minutes of tumescent Van Gaal football and he survives.
Woodward needs to come out and either confirm that we are sticking with him regardless of what happens this season or terminating his contract.
Woodward needs to come out and either confirm that we are sticking with him regardless of what happens this season or terminating his contract.
He might make notes, but he will act on situations when they happen, not let things get out of hand and give them a good telling off at half-time.
Louis van Gaal has defended his decision to start Marouane Fellaini in midfield ahead of the fit-again Bastian Schweinsteiger after the German changed the FA Cup clash with West Ham.
Manchester United were losing 1-0 and were heading out of the cup when Schweinsteiger replaced the Belgian with 14 minutes left on the clock; he drove them forward and eventually Anthony Martial scored an equaliser which forces a replay.
The former Bayern Munich midfielder – who has returned from injury against Liverpool in the Europa League but was kept on the bench as a precaution against the Hammers.
“I think he did fantastically,” Van Gaal said of the German. “But, of course, he played 15 minutes. Ninety minutes is different but I was also happy with him.
“I think Fellaini played again a good match. He performed well in our gameplan.
“Matteo Darmian has played three minutes and he has to come from the bench onto the pitch because I want to make another change, and he also did good.
“So I have given a lot of compliments to my players because it was showing a great spirit because when you are 1-0 behind, 20 minutes to play and you are the better team and don’t break after losing against West Brom and Liverpool then you show a great spirit.”
Van Gaal continued: “The first 15 minutes I think West Ham was the better team and they have created a few chances, but then we are coming back in the match, we created also chances, not the biggest chances but we are created chances.
“In the second half we were the better team, they scored out of a free-kick, we are behind, we have played against West Brom and lost and Liverpool and lost, and when you can come back like that I think it is amazing and fantastic spirit in the team, in spite of a very nasty week in a lot of aspects.
“So I’m very proud of my players and the fans were very proud. They were enthusiastic and applauded when the players were going off the pitch.
“I have seen a great match and we are still in three competitions. As I said to Luke Shaw, Wayne Rooney and Ashley Young, you can still play the final.”
Manchester United were losing 1-0 and were heading out of the cup when Schweinsteiger replaced the Belgian with 14 minutes left on the clock; he drove them forward and eventually Anthony Martial scored an equaliser which forces a replay.
The former Bayern Munich midfielder – who has returned from injury against Liverpool in the Europa League but was kept on the bench as a precaution against the Hammers.
“I think he did fantastically,” Van Gaal said of the German. “But, of course, he played 15 minutes. Ninety minutes is different but I was also happy with him.
“I think Fellaini played again a good match. He performed well in our gameplan.
“Matteo Darmian has played three minutes and he has to come from the bench onto the pitch because I want to make another change, and he also did good.
“So I have given a lot of compliments to my players because it was showing a great spirit because when you are 1-0 behind, 20 minutes to play and you are the better team and don’t break after losing against West Brom and Liverpool then you show a great spirit.”
Van Gaal continued: “The first 15 minutes I think West Ham was the better team and they have created a few chances, but then we are coming back in the match, we created also chances, not the biggest chances but we are created chances.
“In the second half we were the better team, they scored out of a free-kick, we are behind, we have played against West Brom and lost and Liverpool and lost, and when you can come back like that I think it is amazing and fantastic spirit in the team, in spite of a very nasty week in a lot of aspects.
“So I’m very proud of my players and the fans were very proud. They were enthusiastic and applauded when the players were going off the pitch.
“I have seen a great match and we are still in three competitions. As I said to Luke Shaw, Wayne Rooney and Ashley Young, you can still play the final.”
This is what we hear constantly from the manager and the players - we performed well in the gameplan - thus the players are following the instructions - LvG is happy that the players are following the game plan, the players are following the game plan like robots. It is all without spontaneity and passion . This is exactly what is wrong - what is the damn game plan.
Majority of people thought Darwin's evolution theory was rubbish.. I think some people can only see things that are right in front of them. You miss me MR. Blunder?
This.
When LVG's defenders blame the players they ignore the many, many times he has acknowledged the players are following his orders.
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