http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...-manchester-united-youngsters-chance-10529878
Warren Joyce on Van Gaal.
Next anti LVG point please.
Warren Joyce on Van Gaal.
Next anti LVG point please.
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http://www.squawka.com/news/van-gaa...ng-youth-break-into-man-utd-first-team/610996
LVG saying he works closely with Warren Joyce & Butt.
Again, let's take out the idea that he has no idea what is up with youth.
LVG saying he works closely with Warren Joyce & Butt.
Again, let's take out the idea that he has no idea what is up with youth.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2014/09/1...ow-united-prospects-can-graduate-into-van-ga/
Oh dear Lord. Joyce saying he sets his team up to mirror Van Gaal so that they make the step up.
Hmm surely Van Gaal didn't ask for that did he?
Genuinely this place is a joke.
Oh dear Lord. Joyce saying he sets his team up to mirror Van Gaal so that they make the step up.
Hmm surely Van Gaal didn't ask for that did he?
Genuinely this place is a joke.
Yea now that's crazy that Joyce didn't call him a useless dickhead and didn't take all the credit for himself, that's what usually happens.
theis pleis is a joke guiz lols
theis pleis is a joke guiz lols
Oh yeh let's believe @Kostur over every manager, employee, head of reserves, youth, all the legendary players, some as old as the 90's, some young enough to be under 25 still - who have Van Gaal as THE best manager at what he does.
This shit is getting really tiring. This place is here for discussions and not for people holding on to dear life over what they feel.
Are you telling this to me or just repeating it loudly for yourself?
Since you're such a fan of quoting, i.a. Xavi, I take it that you believe that everything going on in Qatar as far as preparations for WC are concerned is alright? All the deaths and so on are just overblown and stuff?
You basically believe every shit that you hear, don't you?
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2014/09/1...ow-united-prospects-can-graduate-into-van-ga/
Oh dear Lord. Joyce saying he sets his team up to mirror Van Gaal so that they make the step up.
Hmm surely Van Gaal didn't ask for that did he?
Genuinely this place is a joke.
Which means that Joyce is better at implementing LVG's philosophy than LVG himself.
Hmm surely that's sack worthy.
I see you're defending your award pretty well.
Right on, people are so desperate for Van Gaal to create a positive spin on his time here that they are willing to create alternative reality. If he believes in youth why did he ditch Welbeck for fecking Falcao? Why hasn't Pereira played more? This guy is so good at selling b.s. its unreal.
He doesn't rate Welbeck enough to think he had a long term United future so let him go. Falcao, at the time, was definitely worth a try - you're slating LVG with the benefit of hindsight. Who knows about Pereira? I kind of trust Van Gaal on these issues - he knows Pereira's progress better than I.
No kids are better at adapting to things than players who are stuck to one method of playing.
Thanks seems like You know about me and i dont Know about you.
I never once said iv been researching or understanding about the WC or anything to do about Qatar.
How has that got anything to do with LVG.
On the other hand, I have researched LVG up enough to know that things like the philosophy is more than possesion football.
I have said LVG's influence with kids from about 2 years ago nearly. When it arrived and its so painfully obvious, people still figure out reasons to not believe in it.
You have 3 times more youngsters than experienced and players in prime alone - Surely - that is planned.
How can anyone think it is not. If you wanted to use older players when injuries arise - he wouldn't have 22 young players circulating around the first team.
4 wins against 3 poor teams and a faultering Arsenal and you forget it all..... Amazing!
Again.... 4 wins against poor opponents and you forget the circus that has been us all season under Ringmaster Vangle!?
Any decent manager should have walked that league with a £250m investment.
People who ask why Van Gaal didn't trust CBJ and Rashford yet earlier in the season needs to realize that both of them have never even played U21s football before this season.In fact before his promotion Rashford has only made 1 U21s start and most of his appearances have come with the U18s and U19s.CBJ has played about 7 U21s games before his promotion.Who the hell will play them ahead of senior players like Rojo,Young or Rooney before we have an injury crisis?What LVG does better here is he trust the recommendations of Warren Joyce and co. and play the youth when we need them instead of playing senior players out of positions like most of the managers including Fergie in his later years would have done.He can easily play Lingard as full-back or play Blind at left back and Carrick CB.In the forward position he could play Memphis there,Mata on the right,Lingard on the left,Herrera as number 10 instead of putting Rashford into the equation.Despite I'm not totally agree with his method since that might lead to us promoting the wrong players at time, see Blackett and co. - giving him no credit for what he has done is ridiculous.For your information on November he could have promoted Ashley Fletcher to the bench who are 2 years older and more experienced than Rashford but he picked the latter after witnessing both of them on training.
Club employees toe the party line and back manager..shocker
Let's see how it unfolds when Rooney, Valencia and the bog brush are fit again. First half against Watford was more like Van Gaals style, already squeezing the fun out of the youth.
Anyone that wants him to stay on has a very short memory. The goldfish brigade will be calling for his head again soon enough!
Giggs & Neville became full time players due to injuries. Beckham became an important player in the Uefa Cup and Scholes became important to us in the League cup against Port Vale.
Playing kids straight in a big match when there is nothing wrong with players with experience is just not a thing to do unless you are a Messi.
Playing kids straight in a big match when there is nothing wrong with players with experience is just not a thing to do unless you are a Messi.
"He was training with the second team, sometimes he could play the part in 11-against-11 and then I saw him."
LVG admitting he only.saw Rashford in seconds training games before Midjiland.
Rolled the dice.... totally rolled the dice.
Good for Rashford, amazing to see, but claiming this as good management is a stretch to say the least. Anyone that thinks Rashford was in LVGs plans for a late surge this season is as delusional as Vangle.
Anyone wanting him gone has a short memory. People who can go far as back to see his influence (never mind how little) on Barcelona & Bayern (constantly approved by their players, so you don't need to tell me it's not true) - has led to people realising he is a very unique manager able to make this Club Unique again.
Everybody else wants to buy everything every 3 years and make us in to a Man City, a Chelsea or a Madrid.
Again as I said, you are saying Van Gaal has no Influence because Rashford has largely been Successful. How successful a young player is - is really not important as judging players at the age of 18 is never straightforward.
It isn't about success but more about the fact that he Is using young players. That is it.
I dont see you guys talking about Mcnair, Blackett etc because they haven't hit the ground running..
And you can't hit the ground running u til you get a chance in the first team.. Something Van Gaal will give you in abundance.
What a crock.... Valera didn't get a chance when LVG spent a season and a half shoe-horning Young and Valencia into RB. When his hand was forced he's claiming the victory!
Van Gaal is the Donald Trump of football managers and its staggering to see the amount of mullet sporting, star and stripe waving, cut-off denim, gun-toting equivalents mindlessly cheering him on as his campaign of smoke and mirrors gains pace.
Let's just see how the rest of the season pans out and readdress this locking of horns then.
Trying to get Debuchy in in January = giving CBJ and Varela a chance? Whatever you say LVG.
He's grasping on to this youth policy narrative because he's realised he can still get credit for it out of the wreckage of this season, he's not (that) stupid.
Meanwhile we played almost full strength at home against Middlesbrough and away at Shrewsbury.
Just when you start to accept the guy again.. He comes out with this crap. Just make sure we keep winning.
Feck you.
Fergie used to give chances to young players. He would give them 10-15 minutes at the end of the game, to play with strong team around them. He would avoiding putting too much preassure on young players. LVG plays young players becasue he absolutelty has too. The only formation we dont have a major injury crisis is midfield and thats why Perreira doesnt.get a snif of a pitch. When senior.palyers.come back Varela, CBJ, Rasford will watch games from stands.
What Donald Trump!!! It doesn't matter who he is, if he is voted in as president then the rest can shut the hell up. How is it even the same when the majority want him gone
So funny how people will believe something like debuchy's failed transfer but nothing else regarding van Gaal
He uses experienced players & buying debuchy's would have made only Varela effected. Guess what, he still would have been a sub.
People are so pissed about youngsters being successful that they don't want to attribute thst TO LVG
.. If this was struggling kids I wonder if we would be having the same problem.Are you stupid? Iv seen Van Gaal give pereira 10 mins at the end of the game pleanty of times. The problem is that he hasn't started them.
Oh my, your saying Van Gaal doesn't give the last 15 mins to give games to other youngsters too? I also showed that our most decorated and loved players came through against weaker teams and injuries.
This is not insulting anyone except the anti LVG brigade. So go feck yourself.
Why in the hell should we play kids when we have experienced players. All Van Gaal does is gives youngsters a chance. Whether they are successful or not is thoroughly down to them.
Simple. We have 14 players over 25 with alot of players playing more than one position like young, blind, Rooney etc. The policy allows youth to get in to the team by numbers alone.
I will feck myslef to death once this idiot leaves United.
Perriera played few.minutes against almighty shwww something in the fa cup.
He fecking doesnt you (insert insult here). Before the injury crisis i didnt know we had CBJ, TMF on books. He fecking sent Wilson on loan and played.Young at RB when Varela was fit.
While we're forced to play youngsters in other positions, it makes little sense to sacrifice the experience we do have to give another youngster a run out.
He's not getting in ahead of Mata or Herrera right now and he hasn't got the pace of Lingard or Rashford which is currently a key tool tactically.
Guys you are all set in stone and no one is bringing anything new to the table. It's safe to say that some people thinks he deserves recognition and others don't. Let's leave it at that?
Because young is available. He doesnt have to rely on youth straight away as the inclination is and will always be that experienced players will play better than the youngsters. Everyones gassed here because the youngsters have actually done well and been better than the experienced players but to play them from the start and watch them struggle is suicidal. TBF he has done it with Mcnair & Co but no one gives a flying shit because he hasn't been as successful as Rashford & Co.
Finally, why would players like Wilson & Januzaj need little places of game time when they have already had their debuts and scored goals? They need consistent game time more than anything else - something Van Gaal said Januzaj wouldn't get at dormund anyway.
You just want instant success. PEREIRA has played 11 times for us BTW but hasn't had the chance to start because mata has not been injured.
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