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Do you want LVG sacked?


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We do realize he's not going to be sacked, don't we? He has until the end of season at least and might be gone in the Summer although I still believe it's 50/50.
 
Fundamentally it's a complete lack of understanding on the players part, and an inability to be felxible on Van Gaal's.
Ultimately something has to give here, but do you trust a retiring Van Gaal to rebuild a team?
Cos I don't.
Keep on this way and I'm not sure we will be in any position to challenge next year...or the year after.

Objectively, colours firmly left in your pocket, he's spent a fortune and we are going backwards...couple of points.
Firstly if it was happening to Liverpool...folk would piss themselves. Apparently LVG deserves 3 years but Klopp is already a failure. Mental.
Furthermore, it's becoming obvious that even LVG doesn't seem to know if/when this will click. His last few interviews have looked weary.

Louis, himself admits he has failed. I'm not going to disagree with him.
Very disappointed given that on his appointment I could see him taking us forward as a group.
Going forward, the next one has to be someone who can bring a real drive, plan and experience in the modern game.

He does know. It takes 3 months for players to understand the philosophy. Then it takes 1st half of the season. Then its a 3-year process. Then you become title challengers after a win. Then top 4 contenders. Then you aren't ready to win the champions league. Then you become title challengers again. Then you lose faith in the philosophy and go on a losing streak. Then you go 4 games unbeaten against relegation fodder culminating in a win against Liverpool and you are title contenders again. And then you beat a team in the division below and hammer Stoke and it's the philosophy clicking. Then you lose hope on a respectable league finish and Champions League football. Sounds legit to me. Nothing moves in a straight line.
 
He does know. It takes 3 months for players to understand the philosophy. Then it takes 1st half of the season. Then its a 3-year process. Then you become title challengers after a win. Then top 4 contenders. Then you aren't ready to win the champions league. Then you become title challengers again. Then you lose faith in the philosophy and go on a losing streak. Then you go 4 games unbeaten against relegation fodder culminating in a win against Liverpool and you are title contenders again. And then you beat a team in the division below and hammer Stoke and it's the philosophy clicking. Then you lose hope on a respectable league finish and Champions League football. Sounds legit to me. Nothing moves in a straight line.

:lol: When you say it like that. Genuinely amazed how people thought a 3-0 win over Stoke was a sign of something huge coming, only for us to come back to our usual selves within two games.

Him being saved by 0-0 draw versus Chelsea with "I cannot leave after a performance like this" was truly comedy gold.
 
He does know. It takes 3 months for players to understand the philosophy. Then it takes 1st half of the season. Then its a 3-year process. Then you become title challengers after a win. Then top 4 contenders. Then you aren't ready to win the champions league. Then you become title challengers again. Then you lose faith in the philosophy and go on a losing streak. Then you go 4 games unbeaten against relegation fodder culminating in a win against Liverpool and you are title contenders again. And then you beat a team in the division below and hammer Stoke and it's the philosophy clicking. Then you lose hope on a respectable league finish and Champions League football. Sounds legit to me. Nothing moves in a straight line.

Ha, very well put it really highlights the farcical job he has done.
 
If he does poorly in the Europa league game he needs to be sent packing. No more excuses.
 
We do realize he's not going to be sacked, don't we? He has until the end of season at least and might be gone in the Summer although I still believe it's 50/50.

In that case you must believe that our chances of making the top four is 50/50, as he obviously won't be kept on if we finish outside. The board aren't that fecking idiotic, surely.
 
In that case you must believe that our chances of making the top four is 50/50, as he obviously won't be kept on if we finish outside. The board aren't that fecking idiotic, surely.

Erm....he's still here
 
In that case you must believe that our chances of making the top four is 50/50, as he obviously won't be kept on if we finish outside. The board aren't that fecking idiotic, surely.

Not sure. I think we could finish 7th and keep him. Woody loves the guy.
 
:lol: When you say it like that. Genuinely amazed how people thought a 3-0 win over Stoke was a sign of something huge coming, only for us to come back to our usual selves within two games.

Him being saved by 0-0 draw versus Chelsea with "I cannot leave after a performance like this" was truly comedy gold.

The fact some fans were taken in by it is even worse.
 
So obviously we all want to see us get into next years CL but realistically when do most fans believe we'll be mathematically screwed*. I still don't think we'll sack LvG until the season ends but at least then we could surely announce his successor and start the rebuilding process behind the scenes as with a major tournament in the summer we'll surely want to get our business done asap.

*I don't believe we'll win the Europa League.
 
So obviously we all want to see us get into next years CL but realistically when do most fans believe we'll be mathematically screwed*. I still don't think we'll sack LvG until the season ends but at least then we could surely announce his successor and start the rebuilding process behind the scenes as with a major tournament in the summer we'll surely want to get our business done asap.

*I don't believe we'll win the Europa League.

About 4 games from the end in the league. We will likely finish 10-15 points behind 4th.
 
I still don't think we'll sack LvG until the season ends but at least then we could surely announce his successor and start the rebuilding process behind the scenes...

Yeah, it's been done elsewhere this season - in very high profile cases. So, if we've actually reached an agreement with Maureen, I don't see why we'd wait until season's end to announce it.

One may ask, of course, why we shouldn't just let him get on with the job straight away - but that's a different debate. If we've decided to let LVG go, and decided on a successor, it doesn't make much sense to hold this back - not least since it would placate an increasingly angry (and confused) fanbase.

So, I guess the fact it hasn't been announced indicates...that no decision has been made. Or no agreement reached, at least.
 
We are wasting valuable time by allowing Van Gaal to hang on week after week.

Even if we put aside our dismal record this season, exactly how many performances under LVG in his 18 months -- I'm guessing about 80 competitive matches -- as manager could we say were outstanding?

5, perhaps 6 at most.

Had we played dreadful but winning football, fine. Had we played fantastic but losing football, fine. But when the football is both dreadful and losing, someone upstairs has to take notice.
 
When you compare him with Poch who came into Spurs the same time as he came here, who has spent far less and overhauled the Spurs squad in similar fashion, and who has gotten them playing solid football and challenging for the title, it makes everything Louis has spouted about "process" and "philosophy" a bigger joke than it already is.
 
In that case you must believe that our chances of making the top four is 50/50, as he obviously won't be kept on if we finish outside. The board aren't that fecking idiotic, surely.

After that 8 game disaster, they truly are a bunch of monkeys at board room level
 
great to see he's still firmly in place to manage again on thursday.

absolutely nothing could happen in this competition for me to believe that lvg deserves to stay on next season.
 
Nothing is going to get achieved now, I'm of the opinion we should sack him now and give Mourinho the remainder of the season to evaluate which players could play under him.

If the board had bollocks, he'd be gone.
 
Nothing is going to get achieved now, I'm of the opinion we should sack him now and give Mourinho the remainder of the season to evaluate which players could play under him.

If the board had bollocks, he'd be gone.

Mourinho will not start this season there isnt a hoping hell I wish people would understand that, LVG is here till the end of the season for better or for worse but I have no doubt he will be replaced in the summer and that man has to be Jose
 
Mourinho will not start this season there isnt a hoping hell I wish people would understand that, LVG is here till the end of the season for better or for worse but I have no doubt he will be replaced in the summer and that man has to be Jose

I'm starting to think there is a legitimate reason Jose has not, or may not be able to start work now. Has to be. If this is the case, we need to let Giggs have a crack until the end of the season.

Next season could be the most entertaining season in a long time.
Jose @ United
Pep @ City
Klopp @ Liverpool
Simeone @ Chelsea
Wenger @ Arsenal (not overly exciting but keeps them at the top nonetheless)

I'll go ahead and add Ranieri @ Leicester and Poch @ Spurs only because of this season's form.
Anyone else?
 
In that case you must believe that our chances of making the top four is 50/50, as he obviously won't be kept on if we finish outside. The board aren't that fecking idiotic, surely.

Actually, they look like they are. Otherwise they would have sacked his @ss in December and hired a manager to try and get into the top 4.
 
I'm starting to think there is a legitimate reason Jose has not, or may not be able to start work now. Has to be. If this is the case, we need to let Giggs have a crack until the end of the season.

Next season could be the most entertaining season in a long time.
Jose @ United
Pep @ City
Klopp @ Liverpool
Simeone @ Chelsea
Wenger @ Arsenal (not overly exciting but keeps them at the top nonetheless)

I'll go ahead and add Ranieri @ Leicester and Poch @ Spurs only because of this season's form.
Anyone else?

I would give Giggs a crack also but there is talk that he dosent want an interm Job but the actual Managers Job, so on them basis thats why LVG hasn't probably been sacked and won't be sacked this season because we will be left with no-one. As for Mourinho he would not want to start the season now and to behonest who would it will only damage your reputation if it all goes wrong with a squad you didnt build, Mendes and Mourinho are too smug and would understand that, Jose is going to be Uniteds next manager unless something goes horribly wrong with final negotiations, this is all credible information from Di Marzio who is very very reliable, he even went on to say "he knows that Mourinho will take over United in the summer", its just a matter of a signature.
 
When you compare him with Poch who came into Spurs the same time as he came here, who has spent far less and overhauled the Spurs squad in similar fashion, and who has gotten them playing solid football and challenging for the title, it makes everything Louis has spouted about "process" and "philosophy" a bigger joke than it already is.

Claudio Ranieri has been at Leicester less than a year.
 
- Giggs dosent want Interm Job but actual Mangers Job, but he aint getting it.

- Mourinho will not take job till summer at no cost.

These reasons validate why LVG still has his job and why he will continue to have his job till the season is over, because there is no replacement till the end of the season, Unless Giggs takes a UTURN and accepts interm until a manager is in place LVG will remain.
 
When you compare him with Poch who came into Spurs the same time as he came here, who has spent far less and overhauled the Spurs squad in similar fashion, and who has gotten them playing solid football and challenging for the title, it makes everything Louis has spouted about "process" and "philosophy" a bigger joke than it already is.

That is actually a really good point.
 
There's almost no point sacking him now. The season is fecked, we should have acted after the Norwich game 2 months ago and who knows we might still be in a title race.

He's fecking useless but I think we're stuck with him until at least the Summer. Woodward and the board are so incompetent, it wouldn't amaze me if he sees out his third year too.
 
I just wish we could fast forward to the end of the season...again, what another trainwreck of a campaign....again.

Knowing us though, we'll still have Coach LVG and Captain Rooney spearheading us to more mediocrity next season too.
 
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