He looks lost. His body language says everything. All the signs point towards his exit at the end of the season, no matter what happens from hereon in. I dont think we are fluking anything this season, sadly. Its just a write off.
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He looks lost. His body language says everything. All the signs point towards his exit at the end of the season, no matter what happens from hereon in. I dont think we are fluking anything this season, sadly. Its just a write off.
It seems every time we win a game it buys him at least few defeats and endless draws.
We have relatively 3 easy cup games coming up, if we qualify that'd be great success as far as woody is concerned, march on van gaal, then we're gonna lose to arsenal then beat watford and it's all good again till the end of the season. Nobody at the club seems to be capable of seeing the pattern of mediocrity surrounding this team, and van gaal will be eventually sacked when our season is 100% over in all competitions.
We have relatively 3 easy cup games coming up, if we qualify that'd be great success as far as woody is concerned, march on van gaal, then we're gonna lose to arsenal then beat watford and it's all good again till the end of the season. Nobody at the club seems to be capable of seeing the pattern of mediocrity surrounding this team, and van gaal will be eventually sacked when our season is 100% over in all competitions.
City lost their last two games in the league (both at home), yet we only managed to gain a point on them against bottom half teams.
grim
The most important part about managing united, no matter who they are, can they win trophy's? or look like the manager that can put a team on the pitch that will compete, if he fails at 2 of these marks, he should be fired. And the way VG has failed, its a farce
I would not put it past a conference side on a string shoe budget with a manager of that side could outsmart VG
It lost Sexton and Atkinson their jobs. Atkinson won a couple of F.A.Cups, but United wanted the league title. There again that was before we became a sponsor magnet and maybe the priorities have changed.
Aha, yes - that's fine. But: Hitler. A joke about Hitler, to be precise. I don't think you quite got the spirit of the thing, to be honest - but I can only blame myself.
Well, I could blame Steve, actually - he started it. *
* ...and that is, incidentally, exactly how Nazi Germany started too.
We're winning the noodles. That's all Woodward cares about.
Really think people should give it up. If it hasn't happened by now it is clear it will not unless we are out of both cups and 4th is impossible
So probably mid to late April is the time
So probably mid to late April is the time
6 points behind City, and we still have to play them. If Mourinho came in now, i'd back us to make 4th. But we'll wait until we can't before sacking him because...?
The entire squad knows they are not good enough. Collectively, it's not good enough and they believe it even more today. That's not good, but it's the reality at this point.
They knew they had to win matches in December, couldn't do it. Yesterday was another must-win and they didn't show the urgency, spirit or will to get a result. It's shambolic, just like the conceded goals. LVG can go tomorrow, but it doesn't matter who steps in for the remaining 12 matches, not too much will change. It's an anything will do type situation, where there's 36 points up for grabs. Everybody controls their own destiny, whether you can do it or not with the shit that will come at you, that will be answered in due time.
They knew they had to win matches in December, couldn't do it. Yesterday was another must-win and they didn't show the urgency, spirit or will to get a result. It's shambolic, just like the conceded goals. LVG can go tomorrow, but it doesn't matter who steps in for the remaining 12 matches, not too much will change. It's an anything will do type situation, where there's 36 points up for grabs. Everybody controls their own destiny, whether you can do it or not with the shit that will come at you, that will be answered in due time.
I like LvG. So this isn't pleasant. But just fecking sack him already. Season is over, what the feck are we waiting for?
We don't want to be too rude about it, we might hurt his feelings.
May as well call it 7. Their GD is 20, ours is 6 or something.
I don't think anyone is getting us top four this season, but my logic for hiring Mourinho now is simply that this season is a write off -- he could lose 50% of his games and I wouldn't give a feck. It would give him time to evaluate the players properly before the summer window. But that is far too fecking logical for us.
When we finally sack him I think the feel good buzz will give the club a lift. Right now Spurs and Leicester are very unified looking teams, City have Pep coming in, Arsenal have 1 more year of Wenger stability and you know Chelsea will sort their shit out, even fecking Liverpool have Klopp with the summer window in front of him. We need to respond and inject some fresh optimism into the club and fans.
I like the man, I mean. I genuinely respect him. But it's been clear for months that he's completely lost it. Board should have acted.
feck sake.
That draw to Chelsea is looking more and more painful now.
I can't believe we'll have to endure another season without CL football. We probably won't even make the Europa League places.
it does matter because it may help develop a "team first" reaction. staying with him is the non starter. the sooner the better. good managers win with meh squads. this one may be better than meh. LVG isn't.
The happiness felt when he finally does leave I feel will be better than when Moyes left.
It'll be amazing.
Yea that is the question, we have men in charge who do not really care about that anymore, if it is to save them money knowing the team will fail anyway, they will let this pain go to flatline
Whats the point?. Our squad is nowhere competitive to be in the CL KO stages.
So, its better to get qualified when we are in a position to get into the QF/SF stages and have a chance of winning it, rather than be also rans.
A season or two away from the CL could also provide a kick in the arse for the board to get the club in order.
He'd better fecking get sacked tomorrow...
Can you clarify by what you mean as a "team first" reaction? If someone such as Mourinho comes in when the sun shines tomorrow (depending where you are!), players will be scared and have to change their tune. Every player will look at for themselves, unsure at what to expect because only Mata has worked with Mourinho and he was sold by Jose.
United are still in the FA Cup, still have to play in Europa League with 4th still (mind boggling that this is true) in sight. A new manager, assuming it's Mourinho, will probably relieve Giggs and a few others. So you're inserting an entirely new coaching staff, with zero insight. Nothing. You're coming into the environment blind.
Beginning Feb. 18, United have 4 matches in ten days, not including a potential FA Cup replay at OT. Then in March, United could have up to five matches in 18 days if they qualify for the sixth round of the FA Cup.
The coaching staff will be changed, but with everything in football and life, timing is everything.
I think we are in a strange position where winning only seems to harm us in the long-term but losing will be a short-term pain but better for us in the long run. I don't want United to lose but if us losing prompts the board to make a change for the better, so be it. It should never have gotten to a point where fans consider the positives of losing though. 
Gut says he goes tomorrow. mind says he stays till end of season.
This fecking joker better be out tomorrow.
If we get another manager in the summer and sign some quality players, we'd have a chance in the Champions League (for reaching the latter stages). Missing out is never a good idea as we might struggle to attract our top transfer targets.
As a fan, I don't want to see us humiliated, but even if we're outsiders against the current top teams, it'd still be better than playing Europa League qualifiers against Slovan Bratislava or Mladost Podgorica.
I know what you meant, if we looked at hitler etc it was more than just hitler to hate if we looked back, hitler seemed more senile than anything else in the latter part of his reign, than someone executing a successful plan in the end. The idea Mourinho would be like hiring hitler is obvious well off the mark, if Mourinho was in charge and got us to anywhere near the consistency shown in his chelsea years 2004-06, can any of us say we would not be happy? turning us into a winning machine. Yes there is the pro's and con's of having Mourinho in charge, like any other manager. If Mourinho's faults are the petty stuff and his pro's have us winning games every week, of course we would be hiring the right guy
No reports coming out anywhere of his imminent sacking?
Why focus on the Chelsea draw which is actually one of our better recent results? The Southampton, Sunderland, Stoke, Norwich, Bournemouth defeats far more damaging.
Nope. Been on twitter all day. Scrotum face is still here
I like the guy. I don't really understand the need for personal insults. He's trying his best that I have no doubt, sadly it's just nowhere near good enough.
I really struggle to understand what the board are thinking. If I'm Ed Woodward and I hear my manager tell the world 4th place is basically gone with a third of the season to go having spent a fortune I would be asking serious questions.
The moment its announced that Van Gaal has been sacked, here its going to be like the end of return of the Jedi.
6 points behind the best squad in the league. That wouldn't be that bad a result, if they weren't having a bit of a crap season themselves, and we weren't in 5th!
2 wins, 1 draw and 1 one loss was a decent enough showing for Giggs, who had never previously managed a game at any level in his life, especially considering the chaos that Moyes left for him.
The Chelsea one is still fresh for me. Plus, it was the fact we played well and still dropped the points so agonizingly. If we play bad and lose, then we can't really regret anything about that. Dropping points when we should have taken away 3 points, at Stamford Bridge too, is painful.
I didn't watch the game on Saturday but I hear we deserved to lose.
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