So we wait until van gaal is 88 years old and we'll have 13 premier league titles. got it.I have a question for you all. How many people remember this banner that was hang after a string of poor performances:
The circumstances behind this is eerie similar to what you are seeing. Have patience.
LVG Out Thread | BBC: Sacked!
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I think that at United the manager is in charge of the recruiting strategy, so he is still responsible.
He's created a mess. The next man will have a very difficult job on his hands.
Almost everyone was calling for his head in December, yet he's still here and things have developed exactly the way we all knew they would. What a fecking surprise, eh Eddy boy?
You think that being 3 points from the relegation zone with Barca in January wasnt spectacular failure?
Maybe we have different standards.
He was also there for 6 months, so didnt really have time to fall put with the board there too.
Spot on. Sadly this is how it will end. I can see him lasting the whole season too if he retires anyway. We are a great club, Ed wouldn't sack his mate like that.
Can you imagine the POTY dinner at seasons end. There might be nobody who wants to go to it.
I have a question for you all. How many people remember this banner that was hang after a string of poor performances:
The circumstances behind this is eerie similar to what you are seeing. Have patience.
Back then Fergie was still a young manager who had long term plans. LVG has even said himself that this is his last job and that he's leaving at the end of next season. Giving him time makes absolutely no sense.
We lost to Sunderland. The worst team in the league. This is so bad its just funny. What a nice way to wake up and start the weekend.That's why Giggs needs to come in. The more awkward and difficult the situation.. the more he rises to the occasion.
He's Ryan Giggs not some expert manager. And by mess, I mean we'll have to spend a few quid to correct LVG's excellent squad.
Just when we were showing championship form as well, we have to get Sunderland away, who havent beaten us at home since 1997, Im sure these fixtures are rigged, just to make LVG look a bigger sham then he already appears to be...
I know some who will be happy to go there. Dave will go there and pick up his trophy and dodge the Real Madrid questions. Rooney too, another opportunity to show off his Karaoke skills. And Aloysius can celebrate his retirement and get drunk again, free wine and cake. Ed will probably celebrate too, biggest club in the world and all that, will probably announce another world record sponsorship deal with a Korean tyre manufacturer.
It also invalidates the nonsense about him laying down foundations for us.
We are a mess.
The only thing history will remember him for at United is that he was a massive failure.Just like Moyes.
I'm not fussed about the EL but I would like to see us do well in the cup. I can't see us scraping a top four place though and missing that might be the catalyst.
I meant the punters, not the players.
What's bad is that some players are actually gone backwards with him and I can't see them improving because they're getting old. Getting rid of some players that could have been helpful and replacing them with worse for bigger money is also another big problem that will be hard to solve. Also, I am not sure this team has any winning mentality either, playing with the style van Gaal prefers isn't helping that, when is the last time we scored an injury time winner or at least showed desire and fight in the dying minutes?
They should just cancel it. This season has been such a farce that it needs to be written completely off. Why should we have everyone and their mums show up for the dinner just to see De Gea get all of the awards again?
And as far as the other competitions go, I don't care at all if we win any of them. If we somehow went deep into the FA Cup or EL it will just paint over the mess that the club is in ATM. Any wins in those competitions just makes the job easier for Woodward and we persist longer with this moron on the sideline. Worse yet, if he by some chance won FA or EL (which I find next to impossible), then the excuses mount to keep him on next season. It's getting to a point that each win actually does the club a disservice and it makes me ill feeling like that.
RVP was a good one for getting late goals.
I was being sarcastic spoon, never mind.
I have a question for you all. How many people remember this banner that was hang after a string of poor performances:
The circumstances behind this is eerie similar to what you are seeing. Have patience.
Not really. Back then, we hadn't won a league title in over twenty years and it looked as though that might well stretch into thirty or more. It took Fergie another few years to finally get us over the finish line. The Moyes/Van Gaal era has seen us lurch from one crisis to another. We've seen Fergie's last championship team pulled apart, the management pulled apart, and two totally different styles of playing imposed on the team, which, in fairness, has never really looked like a team but a collection of eleven individuals trying to work out what to do.
I think sarcasm is being lost on us today.
Trevor Francis was bang on the money, too many of this current team aren't good enough to play for United.
Van Gaal is to be blame for the majority of that.
Van Gaal is to be blame for the majority of that.
Do United have to pay some kind of 'charge' if they sack him now as it's still possible to get top 4? With Moyes they waited until it was impossible and he was out of Euorope.
We don't seem to mind overspending on players, bit weird that we'd be so tight with something like this.
Yep. Fred Karno is back in charge.
We'll need a proper manager to replace him though. This will be a significant challenge. We cant take a chance with this next appointment.
For example, when Bayern fired him, they replaced him with a UCL winner in Jupp Heyneckes.
We need to take hire that kind of calliber of manager, or we'll be stuck in the wilderness for a while.
The misses have all been the result of LVG and the players falling out, which has not happened here. Next to that, the "lack" of trophies after the year 2000 can easily be explained by the fact that he trained teams less good afterwards. He nearly won the triple with a Bayern with Van Buyten and Demichelis in defense, Olic as a striker and Butt on goal. All just mediocre players. Got into semifinals of the World Cup with a very mediocre Dutch team before he came to us, and winning the title with AZ in Holland (which would be equivalent to winning it with Everton here). This all has been recent, there are no reasons to assume "he's lost it", which is a bizarre statement anyway. A player might lose his fitness, finesse or physique with age, knowledge/vision cannot be lost,
Wow, had to check, in my head 90 was prem! Old.
We could probably set up a KickStarter to cover his severance pay and it would make the money in a day.
Stretch Goal 1: Mourinho's pay packet
Stretch Goal 2: Neymar's transfer fee
BRB off to email Woodward with an idea.
Our kid said it.
City who are still in all 4 competitions have already announced theyre getting rid of their title winning manager and getting a huge upgrade.
We have been knocked out of 2 competitions, are out of any title race and now look like we are out of any race for 4 with a manager who has been a total failure.
And we've done nothing to salvage it. Just muddled on being shit. We are ran by total imbeciles.
City who are still in all 4 competitions have already announced theyre getting rid of their title winning manager and getting a huge upgrade.
We have been knocked out of 2 competitions, are out of any title race and now look like we are out of any race for 4 with a manager who has been a total failure.
And we've done nothing to salvage it. Just muddled on being shit. We are ran by total imbeciles.
What is similar to me is below:
SAF took over around, 1986. SAF bought over 15 players for more than 13m at the time. If you account for how wages and transfer fees have changed over the years, the difference is not that stuggering, consider that in 1994 was the first time a player in UK was able to earn 10K a week. In that era the most expensive player cost 4.2m. Anyway I digress.
SAF side were described as methodical and dull, at times they looked like they have made the turn only to suffer setbacks just like today. The were articles showing how Fergie's record was the worse in all of Utd's modern managers. It was the truth at the time.
After a string of 8 losses and 2 wins in 10 games since December of 1989, SAF said this after a defeat: "I can cope with that because I know that I am doing the job the right way and the motivation of the players is no problem". If you compare the critical injuries to position groups they also faced, then you will understand why I see similarity.
I see parallelism in our plight, I would give LVG one more year after this.
You're not even worth responding too tbh.
The squad isn't in as bad shape as he would have you believe. A couple changes right of the bat and we would be better, we are missing Shaw badly.
Personally I don't feel today was his fault, I would have brought on Herrera after 60 minutes we needed to regain control of the midfield the game became end to end and we aren't winning that kind of battle with anyone. Schneiderlin is a limited dm apart from being athletic he is nowhere near qualified to play cm for Manchester United. But apart from that the players let themselves down. Sunderland are a poor side.
His 'achievements' were selling a bunch of players any other manager would have sold and qualifying for the CL with a squad that definitely should have finished top four.
Slow hand claps all round.
Slow hand claps all round.
Really? What's wrong with the players? Bullshit statement. I want LVG out immediately but some of the comments on here are plain empty.
Fergie wasn't a stop-gap appointment till we got somebody longer term in, additionally he was working on the setup behind the scenes. LVG has had access to an enormous amount of cash, has only been tasked with improving the first team and only plans to be here a minimum of 3 seasons.
The club is on the way to needing another Fergie who will have to spend 5 seasons repairing the negligence behind the scenes at this rate. Can we not just judge the manager by the times they manage in?
The club is on the way to needing another Fergie who will have to spend 5 seasons repairing the negligence behind the scenes at this rate. Can we not just judge the manager by the times they manage in?
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