Not as erratic as Memphis Depay's.
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Wanting what's best for United makes me a shit fan yet wanting the failure to continue dragging us further down the path Moyes set us on makes you fan of the year?
We just drew 1-1 vs Chelsea at Stamford Bridge after what was largely a good performance. If you think our game plan under Mourinho would be any different to LVG's today (get the first goal, park the bus) then you're much mistaken.
Maybe football's not for you.
Shit fan.
He should have brought them both on at the same time as you say. LvG seems to be slow picking up signs of players getting tired, or his staff are. Both Fellaini and Mata were flagging at that time.
you are fecking nuts. you kill the game with herrera not depay. that's parking the bus not giving away a late goal. depay
, memphis depay!Chelsea are nothing special nowadays. Everton deserved to win there too. When was their last home win?
So we're not allowed to criticize the manager after his inept subs cost us 2pts?
Also I have the attention span of more than 1 game of football, hasn't LVG done enough damage already? Were you in a coma back in December?
Jose would never, ever have brought Memphis on. Ridiculous move. Bring Memphis on to waste time right at the end of the game. He got the Memphis/Herrera subs completely wrong. Morgan did not do himself any favours either.you are fecking nuts. you kill the game with herrera not depay. that's parking the bus not giving away a late goal. depay
so you're a "shit fan" if you dare to criticize united, LVG, and any of the players for anything
i agree with morgan looking shit. double switch with him and herrera would have made sense , which is why LVG is lost.
Like I said before, some people think that wanting the best for the club is wrong.
Wanting the best for club employees and ex-employees is all that matters.
He seems to always want to have the last word when it comes to the media. He should be more focused on his/his team's performance. Had he been doing what he's paid and spent to do the media wont be on his back. Which definitely not having United in 5th place with little chance of playing CL next season. Needless to say our poor CL campaign which got us kicked out of the easiest group possible.
Stop worrying about what the media says and do your job Mr Van Gaal.
Stop worrying about what the media says and do your job Mr Van Gaal.
Whether van gaal is fired on not; i'm sure he has built a team that although not title winners but a team much less reliant on a manager. Look at it today; if the players had used their common sense they would have had turned to possesion football in the last ten minutes.
You dont need a manager to tell you to do that by any means. What we have now though is a manager who put this squad through countless formations, types of football & play. Ultimately the reason he doesn't even get off his arse is because the team should understand how to dictate trouble & freedom.
Barceloma & bayern play as a unit. They play like a unit because they only buy players that they clearly need. Everybody else is homegrown & taught to play in the same way as everybody else.
We hire mourinho ( only assumimg he does not change); he will rip up everything; not just what LVG left behind but what SAF left behind & spend millions on players he does not need- who do not understand the club, the tactics & at max will have one or 2 good seasons before moving to china or holland.
We will only be good as mourinho is & that is dangerous.
You can have almost any half decent professional manager managing bayern & barcelona.. They will be successful because the majority of the squad is not theirs & there influence is seen in KEY positions.
I'm sure Mourinho will come because of our so called lack of improvement even though this team of youngsters are being compared to title winners filled with average and elderly players. I just really hope he changes his ways.
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It is all about him. Has been from the start.
Lingard was tiring, Memphis best play for PSV came with counter attacking.
What did Sir Alex leave behind? That was already ripped apart by Moyes when he fired everyone and brought in Round & co.
Also, Mourinho's first stint at Chelsea saw him leave behind a side that largely remained competitive in the league many years after his departure.
Why is he a shit fan ffs? He'd be a shit fan if he was happy at Uniteds decline under LVG. Him being passionate about Van Gaal being kicked out of the club does not make him a shit fan!
Alot of that can be down to ranieri too?
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herrera and morgan should have been the subs. morgan was shit , depay was the wrong choice. if united were chasing a goal then not a worry.
A quick check of the Chelsea squad when he joined and left the first time will be pretty clear it wasn't Ranieri.
Which should mean that he doesn't destroy his predecessors work? You can't have it both ways.
Herrera hasn't got pace and isn't a winger, LvG was clearly looking for someone to carry the ball up the pitch and relieve the pressure, it wasn't a hard task to expect Memphis to carry this out.
December 2014 against West Bromwich, iirc.
My god his in game management is so shit, that last twenty minutes were a mess, no leadership, no calm heads, nobody keeping the ball, nobody where they were supposed to be(looking at Martial and Memphis).
That is when you need your manager to be barking instructions on the touchline and trying to make a difference but as usual, sits on his arse scribbling into his stupid notebook.
Tired of repeating the same shit with this guy, he undoes all his good work by his lack of understanding and reacting to what's going on in the game.
it was so clear CBJ was exhausted by that last twenty minutes, should have brought on McNair.
Why would you bring on Memphis in that situation too? Away at Stamford Bridge holding onto a lead, the last thing you do is bring on someone with no work ethic, ill disciplined and who lacks any sort of footballing intelligence. Just a completely stupid substitution. Complete opposite to the guy he replaced.
That is when you need your manager to be barking instructions on the touchline and trying to make a difference but as usual, sits on his arse scribbling into his stupid notebook.
Tired of repeating the same shit with this guy, he undoes all his good work by his lack of understanding and reacting to what's going on in the game.
it was so clear CBJ was exhausted by that last twenty minutes, should have brought on McNair.
Why would you bring on Memphis in that situation too? Away at Stamford Bridge holding onto a lead, the last thing you do is bring on someone with no work ethic, ill disciplined and who lacks any sort of footballing intelligence. Just a completely stupid substitution. Complete opposite to the guy he replaced.
But you know nothing will happen to him.
I disagree, the squad SAF left were not good enough going forward. Who exactly did LVG let go that was such a loss? You can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs. He is rebuilding, I am seeing progress when we are healthy. I am seeing Manchester United starting to press off the ball. I see Manchester now starting effective attacks from the back, defenders are giving intelligent passing. I was frustrated with the lack of definition, but things are beginning to look clear to me. We are about a player or two away from being world beaters.
You call it relying on youth, I call it imbuing experience. We need to give him time and stop all these nonsense. If we sack him, Mourihno too will think he has less time and will go out splashing again and the foundation being built will come down. It is sad that you are not seeing the transformation happening in front of you. I understand your anger, but we are not going away like Liverpool did. We are on the up.
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You can't blame him for getting pissed off with a question like that.
He is not. The speculations and the story is so disrespectful. If we are doing this, then we are losing our way and I don't want to believe SAF is ok with this.
most likely these stats will flatter Renties since those numbers seem to improve after we decided not to play and hoof the ball to no one for the last 20-25 minutes.
How exactly are we on the up? We have fewer points now than at the same stage of the Moyes season, we were 4th last season, and despite the chaos at Chelsea, find ourselves 5th!!
Everybody is a couple of players away from being world beaters if those players are Messi, Ronaldo & co, but how likely are we to sign such players without qualifying for the Champions League?
But seeing what has happened to LVG, he will not have the patience to wait. He can have a 20 year plan, if he gets results like LVG, the fans will call for his head! I have come to respect LVG so much lately, most people would have crumbled under the pressure and the machinations behind his back. He still believes, the players are beginning to believe, the players are norming to forming now. When they start to perform, watch out.
That's how EVERY club operates, and LVG was certainly aware of our interest when Moyes was still in the club's employment.
I don't think Sir Alex will be so naive to think otherwise.
There have been plenty of examples everywhere that managers come in and perform from the first game. It's not some kind of unrealistic expectation for United to be secure in the top 4 whilst some rebuilding takes places at the same time.
Didn't the stories originate abroad, if yes our reporters are only repeating them. They didn't make them up. The BBC are usually very particular what they say, so the sources were likely reputable. If it is the club leaking the stories then that is a different matter and LvG does not have the support he thinks he does.
fergie doesn't own United though does he. as much as we, the fans, love him and he's earned everything that comes his way, his time at the club in terms of "running it" are over to a large extent.
Hopefully that's true.
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